I am in a situation where all my cables are packed into a road case. I have all that is balanced using balanced cables but there still is some hum. I think some of it is off my new mixer (alesis studio 12R) before this mixer i was using a mackie 1604vlz. I think it had a lower noise floor. Almost all my cables where made by me and are shielded and of good quality but what can i do about the power cables? Any advice other than the power conditioner. I am totaly packed for room in this box so I would have to mount it in the back some how. so other than that what can I do? Thanks for any help. Mike G. --- In xl7@y..., "ezra_gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote: > The other thing to do is run "balanced" signals and cabling whenever > possible. This would be and XLR or 1/4in TRS wire where 3 wires carry > a monophonic signal. Balanced signals seperate ground from the audio > signal. Balanced signals are higher level (+4dbm vs -10dbm) and less > affected by electrical noise. You can also "lift" ground at one end > of the cable to prevent hum causing ground loops. > > There are conventions on how to lift ground and this is the source of > the arrows on Monster cables (which I think are bunk too but Im just > sayin....). > > You also need to be carefull when converting between unbalaced and > balanced signals. You need to follow the manufacturer reccomended > grounding and conversion practices our use a "DI box"/Impedance > Transformer. Pick up a good studio book it will explain things > better. > > On the xl-7 the main outs are balanced but the subs are not. Using > a "guitar cable" that grounds "ring" to "sleeve" is acceptable > practice for converting the balanced outs on the xl-7 to unbalanced. > > --Ezra > > > --- In xl7@y..., Alex Strudley <Alexs@e...> wrote: > > Biggest thing that helps is to use high quality shielded cables. > Don't use > > those plasticky orange and grey 6 dollar Hosa cables. Do not run > regular > > instrument cables through your mixer to your sound card. Get the > more > > expensive cables for that. You can use regular instrument cables > on your > > synths to go into the mixer but not on the soundcard and not from > your > > studio monitors back to the mixer. The extra money is worth it. > > Above all use a power conditioner like a furman Rack Rider. > > Don't get a Juice Goose because they are simply a power strip in a > rackmount > > case but the Furmans have RF filters in them. A Furman Rack Rider > is about > > 50 bucks from AMS or Musician's Friend. Best 50 bucks you will > ever spend. > > I've got a few of them and can not imagine the horrors I would face > if I ran > > all my stuff through regular power strips that you could buy at a > hardware > > store. No ghetto cables and no ghetto power supplies. Your world > will be > > better. > > > > Alex > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > miki3mikius wrote: > > > > > --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote: > > > > > > thanks for your help! It was a grounding problem. I had the cabels > > > from my computer soundcard next to mp7 in the mixer and that > produced > > > the infamous hum. Still there is a very slight hum (higehr in > tune), > > > but thats tolerable. Btw can anyone tell me how these grounding > > > problems happen and what to do to avoid them? Still I would like > to > > > run both the emu and the computer through my mixer. > > > Michael > > > > > > > Does any of your other gear make a hum when connected to those > same > > > leads > > > > by any chance? Not saying it's not your XL_7, just make sure > it's > > > not a > > > > grounding issue first. If you still have it, maybe pop open the > > > botom and > > > > make sure everything is screwed in tight? > > > > > > > > rEalm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brand new machine with the hum. Not on the headphones but on the > > > main outs > > > > (not on the subs). Anyone any idear? > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > xl7-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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more cable talk
2002-04-24 by mikexl7
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