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Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?

2013-07-23 by Jack Pratt

These boards are for 5V parts which you can still get but are becoming less common. You could populate them but they are not set up for FLASH parts so I doubt that you could convert them to FLASH boards without a fair bit of effort. Also they only have 2Mbit FLASH for presets which I'm guesssing would not accomodate the full preset of later ROMs...


From: steve_the_composer
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?

I have seen these boards on ebay before. Other people with more expertise than me will have to determine whether or not these can be populated with chips that are currently available or if new boards need to be designed. That is way beyond my area of expertise.
Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "thisistheshortestaliaspossible" wrote:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/EMU-PROJECT-BOARDS-TO-BUILD-YOUR-OWN-EMU-ROMS-/321077037871
>
> spotted these on ebay just now. May be good for this project?
> I'd definitely want one!
>
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, craig ward wrote:
> >
> > Yeah like even start a pozible group to kick it off though this group and then you will know how many people will be willing to put up.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 12/07/2013, at 11:07 AM, "Jack Pratt" wrote:
> >
> > > How do you figure that might work?
> > >
> > > I need to build the development board to read existing ROMs
> > > I need to build FLASH SIMMs
> > > I don't expect anyone to be able to solder surface mount parts or procure the parts for any reasonable cost so I don't see how anyone benefits
> > >
> > > There are no project intermediates (ie I can't do a cut down version for less cost)
> > >
> > > Anyone can do the OS disassembly any time they like, and then create an altered version to do whatever they like. If I do it it just takes up more time.
> > >
> > > I'm guessing that If I can make and sell 50 it will have cost me in parts, board manufacture, consumables and labour around $5000. SO if I can sell 50 I would probably break even at around $100 each... but If I only sell 25 I get stuck with $2500 worth of stuff that I can't do anything with. If I can sell 100 I might be able to do it for $65 each. So I sell them at a price to cover costs. And I still don't get compensated for time and effort.
> > >
> > > If there is enough interest I can sell them cheaper because the fixed costs are amortised over a larger number of product, otherwise...
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you think such a board is worth? If you can make it cheaper please do so!!
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Erik van de Pol
> >; > To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Cc: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 10:35 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?
> > >
> > >
> > > Cool project!
> > >
> > > Have you considered doing this as a kickstarter project with a realistic funding goal?
> > >
> > > You could defray some of your development coats that way.
> > >
> > > â€"Erik
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 19:44, Jack Pratt wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The error was sooo basic that I was embarrassed to continue the project (and it cost me plenty of $$ that fueled the annoyance).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> (Snip)
> > >>
>; > >>
> > >> Cost... broad estimate $100-$200 probably closer to $200, but depends on the number I think I can sell (buying in bulk reduces the costs, but buying too many means I get stuck with a large inventory of parts)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>



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