Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

this is making me hot and bothered


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, geoffrey szablot <electric-motion@...> wrote:
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> Hey Guys,
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> I'm pretty sure we are not the only one interested.
> What about creating a web page for the project and then posting that on websites like electronic-forum.com, gearslutz, audiofanzine and so on ?
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> You'll have a rough idea of people  interest. Make people know and talk about it !
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> We still see stuff coming out for older synths & drum machines than the e-mu.
> Saw a recent mod for the tr606!
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> So i don't see why it should´nt succeed.
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> CC: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> From: vandepol.erik@...
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:14:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?
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>       Haven't thought it through to be honest, but the idea would be that people would pledge a reasonable amount (let's say as an example $25). Once enough people pledge, the project would be funded and you'd get the payment. 
> That would do a few things:
> - it would make people committed and more likely to actually purchase a board when they are available. For those who seeded the project, you could offer a discount on the full price. 
> - you'd get some idea of how many boards you could sell. Truth be told, this is likely a niche market with relatively small quantities. I could be wrong of course. 
> - you'd get some "seed money" to help defray your risk so it's not entirely out of your pocket. 
> - you can even formulate "stretch goals" so you can factor in lower cost at higher quantities. 
> Just something to think about. 
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> —Erik
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> On Jul 11, 2013, at 21:06, Jack Pratt <woodsworth1@...> wrote:
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> How do you figure that might work?
> I need to build the development board to read existing ROMsI need to build FLASH SIMMsI don't expect anyone to be able to solder surface mount parts
>  or procure the parts for any reasonable cost so I don't see how anyone benefits
> There are no project intermediates (ie I can't do a cut down version for less cost)
> Anyone can do the OS disassembly any time they like, and then create an altered version to do whatever they like. If I do it it just takes up
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> I'm guessing that If I can make and sell 50 it will have cost me in parts, board manufacture, consumables and labour around $5000. SO if I can sell 50 I would probably break even at around $100 each... but If I only sell 25 I get stuck with $2500 worth of stuff that I can't do anything with. If I can sell 100 I might be able to do it for $65 each. So I sell them at a price to cover costs. And I still don't get compensated for time and effort.
> If there is enough interest I can sell them cheaper because the fixed costs are amortised over a larger number of product, otherwise...
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> What do you think such a board is worth? If you can make it cheaper please do so!!
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>         From: Erik van de Pol <vandepol.erik@...>
>  To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> 
> Cc: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> 
>  Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 10:35 AM
>  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?
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>       Cool project!
> Have you considered doing this as a kickstarter project with a realistic funding goal? 
> You could defray some of your development coats that way. 
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> —Erik
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> On Jul 11, 2013, at 19:44, Jack Pratt <woodsworth1@...> wrote:
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> The error was sooo basic that I was embarrassed to continue the project (and it cost me plenty of $$ that fueled the annoyance).
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> Cost... broad estimate $100-$200 probably closer to $200, but depends on the number I think I can sell (buying in bulk reduces the costs, but buying too many means I get stuck with a large inventory of parts)
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