Hi, I have been member on audiofanzine for 11 years, and there is still a dynamic community EM! I have all Rom Emu(series 2000), 1Xl71, 1 Mp7, Proteus 2000, Turbo-Phat, Orbit 3, Carnival, it I have misses I just the Rom Audity. Others samples of synthesizer different would interest, Korg, Roland, and other… How to capture correctly sample, and give a good rom "to eat of pk2 or XX7" ? Link for gig : http://fr.audiofanzine.com/membres/2692/products/ Bests regards Mike. >________________________________ > De : Bruno <brunorc@...> >À : xl7 <xl7@yahoogroups.com> >Envoyé le : Vendredi 12 juillet 2013 10h23 >Objet : Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM? > > > > >It is a niche market, but even worse - you barely penetrate it by posting here. I don't want to bash your ideas - which are extremely cool - but just to point some things. > >There was a certain number of sound modules, synths & sequencers in the P2K line. They were bought and if you look at the prices on the second hand market, some of them ARE scarce (PX-7 anyone?). Same with ROMs, some are priced ridiculously high (VROM, Orbit ROMs). > >So I would assume, that owners of those machines would certainly like to beef up their toys - they just simply don't hang out on this list, so they have no clue about the project. But I believe that if you put some of those ROMs on ebay and similar pages, the reaction wouldn't be marginal. > >Kickstarter was already suggested. But if it's going to be launched that way, the idea of cloning original E-mu ROMs would have to stay clandestine, since the samples & presets are still the property of E-mu (now Creative). Anyway, if you announced it in a way "put your samples in your E-mu for peanuts", that would raise interest, I suppose. > >Just my 0.02 > >Bruno > > > > > >2013/7/12 geoffrey szablot <electric-motion@...> > > >> >> >>Hey Guys, >> >>I'm pretty sure we are not the only one interested. >>What about creating a web page for the project and then posting that on websites like electronic-forum.com, gearslutz, audiofanzine and so on ? >> >>You'll have a rough idea of people interest. Make people know and talk about it ! >> >>We still see stuff coming out for older synths & drum machines than the e-mu. >>Saw a recent mod for the tr606! >> >>So i don't see why it should´nt succeed. >> >> >>>>________________________________ >>CC: xl7@yahoogroups.com >>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com >>From: vandepol.erik@... >>Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:14:39 -0400 >> >>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM? >> >> >>Haven't thought it through to be honest, but the idea would be that people would pledge a reasonable amount (let's say as an example $25). Once enough people pledge, the project would be funded and you'd get the payment. >> >> >>That would do a few things: >> >> >>- it would make people committed and more likely to actually purchase a board when they are available. For those who seeded the project, you could offer a discount on the full price. >> >> >>- you'd get some idea of how many boards you could sell. Truth be told, this is likely a niche market with relatively small quantities. I could be wrong of course. >> >> >>- you'd get some "seed money" to help defray your risk so it's not entirely out of your pocket. >> >> >>- you can even formulate "stretch goals" so you can factor in lower cost at higher quantities. >> >> >>Just something to think about. >> >> >>—Erik >> >> >> >>On Jul 11, 2013, at 21:06, Jack Pratt <woodsworth1@...> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> >>>How do you figure that might work? >>> >>> >>>I need to build the development board to read existing ROMs >>>I need to build FLASH SIMMs >>>I don't expect anyone to be able to solder surface mount parts or procure the parts for any reasonable cost so I don't see how anyone benefits >>> >>> >>>There are no project intermediates (ie I can't do a cut down version for less cost) >>> >>> >>>Anyone can do the OS disassembly any time they like, and then create an altered version to do whatever they like. If I do it it just takes up more time. >>> >>> >>>I'm guessing that If I can make and sell 50 it will have cost me in parts, board manufacture, consumables and labour around $5000. SO if I can sell 50 I would probably break even at around $100 each... but If I only sell 25 I get stuck with $2500 worth of stuff that I can't do anything with. If I can sell 100 I might be able to do it for $65 each. So I sell them at a price to cover costs. And I still don't get compensated for time and effort. >>> >>> >>>If there is enough interest I can sell them cheaper because the fixed costs are amortised over a larger number of product, otherwise... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>What do you think such a board is worth? If you can make it cheaper please do so!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Erik van de Pol <vandepol.erik@...> >>>To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> >>>Cc: "xl7@...m" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> >>>Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 10:35 AM >>>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Cool project! >>> >>> >>>Have you considered doing this as a kickstarter project with a realistic funding goal? >>> >>> >>>You could defray some of your development coats that way. >>> >>> >>>—Erik >>> >>> >>> >>>On Jul 11, 2013, at 19:44, Jack Pratt <woodsworth1@...> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>The error was sooo basic that I was embarrassed to continue the project (and it cost me plenty of $$ that fueled the annoyance). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>(Snip) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Cost... broad estimate $100-$200 probably closer to $200, but depends on the number I think I can sell (buying in bulk reduces the costs, but buying too many means I get stuck with a large inventory of parts) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >
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Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?
2013-07-12 by BENTON MIKE