Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

De�: Nathan Steele <XTCaine303@...>
À�: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Vendredi 12 juillet 2013 16h53
Objet�: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?

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Some ROMs sell for close to 200, as do the flash ones you can program yourself, when they come up, which is almost never. I'd pay 100 no problem, I think that is the target price you should aim for, and I think a lot of people would be willing to buy them. Agreed you should eventually target beyond this group, and I"m sure most of us have other groups we could promote this too, I would say I'd feel better promoting once it looks like it will work though. I think if you can make it work, you could sell 100 boards pretty easy, certainly within a year, just look at how ROMS sell on ebay.

By the way, I have no problem soldering surface mount....It's easy with the right tools ;)

On 7/11/2013 9:06 PM, Jack Pratt wrote:

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How do you figure that might work?

I need to build the development board to read existing ROMs

I need to build FLASH SIMMs

I don't expect anyone to be able to solder surface mount parts or procure the parts for any reasonable cost so I don't see how anyone benefits

There are no project intermediates (ie I can't do a cut down version for less cost)

Anyone can do the OS disassembly any time they like, and then create an altered version to do whatever they like. If I do it it just takes up more time.

I'm guessing that If I can make and sell 50 it will have cost me in parts, board manufacture, consumables and labour around $5000. SO if I can sell 50 I would probably break even at around $100 each... but If I only sell 25 I get stuck with $2500 worth of stuff that I can't do anything with. If I can sell 100 I might be able to do it for $65 each. So I sell them at a price to cover costs. And I still don't get compensated for time and effort.

If there is enough interest I can sell them cheaper because the fixed costs are amortised over a larger number of product, otherwise...

What do you think such a board is worth? If you can make it cheaper please do so!!

From: Erik van de Pol
To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com"
Cc: "xl7@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?

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Cool project!

Have you considered doing this as a kickstarter project with a realistic funding goal?�

You could defray some of your development coats that way.�

—Erik

On Jul 11, 2013, at 19:44, Jack Pratt <woodsworth1@...> wrote:

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The error was sooo basic that I was embarrassed to continue the project (and it cost me plenty of $$ that fueled the annoyance).

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Cost... broad estimate $100-$200 probably closer to $200, but depends on the number I think I can sell (buying in bulk reduces the costs, but buying too many means I get stuck with a large inventory of parts)