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RE: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?

2013-07-12 by geoffrey szablot

Hey Guys,

I'm pretty sure we are not the only one interested.
What about creating a web page for the project and then posting that on websites like electronic-forum.com, gearslutz, audiofanzine and so on ?

You'll have a rough idea of people  interest. Make people know and talk about it !

We still see stuff coming out for older synths & drum machines than the e-mu.
Saw a recent mod for the tr606!

So i don't see why it should80;nt succeed.


CC: xl7@yahoogroups.com
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
From: vandepol.erik@...
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:14:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?

 
Haven't thought it through to be honest, but the idea would be that people would pledge a reasonable amount (let's say as an example $25). Once enough people pledge, the project would be funded and you'd get the payment. 

That would do a few things:

- it would make people committed and more likely to actually purchase a board when they are available. For those who seeded the project, you could offer a discount on the full price. ;

- you'd get some idea of how many boards you could sell. Truth be told, this is likely a niche market with relatively small quantities. I could be wrong of course. 

- you'd get some "seed money" to help defray your risk so it's not entirely out of your pocket. 

- you can even formulate "stretch goals" so you can factor in lower cost at higher quantities. 

Just something to think about. 

—Erik


On Jul 11, 2013, at 21:06, Jack Pratt <woodsworth1@...> wrote:

 


How do you figure that might work?

I need to build the development board to read existing ROMs
I need to build FLASH SIMMs
I don't expect anyone to be able to solder surface mount parts or procure the parts for any reasonable cost so I don't see how anyone benefits

There are no project intermediates (ie I can't do a cut down version for less cost)

Anyone can do the OS disassembly any time they like, and then create an altered version to do whatever they like. If I do it it just takes up more time.

I'm guessing that If I can make and sell 50 it will have cost me in parts, board manufacture, consumables and labour around $5000. SO if I can sell 50 I would probably break even at around $100 each... but If I only sell 25 I get stuck with $2500 worth of stuff that I can't do anything with. If I can sell 100 I might be able to do it for $65 each. So I sell them at a price to cover costs. And I still don't get compensated for time and effort.

If there is enough interest I can sell them cheaper because the fixed costs are amortised over a larger number of product, otherwise...


What do you think such a board is worth? If you can make it cheaper please do so!!


From: Erik van de Pol <vandepol.erik@...>
To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "xl7@...m" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [p2k] Any interest remaining in a self-programming FLASH SIMM?

 
Cool project!

Have you considered doing this as a kickstarter project with a realistic funding goal? 

You could defray some of your development coats that way.60;

—Erik


On Jul 11, 2013, at 19:44, Jack Pratt <woodsworth1@...> wrote:
 

The error was sooo basic that I was embarrassed to continue the project (and it cost me plenty of $$ that fueled the annoyance).


(Snip)


Cost... broad estimate $100-$200 probably closer to $200, but depends on the number I think I can sell (buying in bulk reduces the costs, but buying too many means I get stuck with a large inventory of parts)




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