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Aha, so here's the secret then...

OK, seems like AMT4 and AMT8 are completely different beasts, AMT8 being in fact the Unitor8 with chopped-off SMPTE sync. Now I understand the posts on AN1x forum, claiming that AMTs won';t work on anything beyond Win 2000.

What I can say is that I have Unitor8 MK I (RS-232), Unitor8 MK II (USB) and AMT8 (USB), working together as a stack under Windows XP with SP3. I tried all possible combinations at some point, including the USB<->RS-232 adapter connected to Unitor MK I. Everything worked OK, except that at some point the Unitor8 Config (an old eMagic software used for configuring the devices) stopped working. Since I have it running on Mac, I didn't bother so much getting it back into shape.

I also have a small Win XP/SP3 PC in my drawer (yes, it is so small), which I only use for some MIDI-related stuff (ancient editors for ancient synths, Cakewalk 3.00, E-Loader etc.), with no plans to switch to a more modern OS, so compatibility issues don't concern me.

YMMV, as always.

2013/6/9 steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>

Hmmmm. I have 2 MT4s that I have abandoned because they simply do not work in XP. (The drivers are Win98 or WinNT which cause problems in my XP. And, yes, I even tried the Unitor drivers which people have gotten to work with the MT4's big sister. In fairness, they did work at one point, but that was probably before SP2 or SP3 which I believe changed how usb worked with Windows. Either that or I have something more important that conflicts with the MT4 drivers.)

I never thought of them as stand-alone midi mergers, perhaps because I'd need a couple of 5 volt wall-warts for stand-alone operation as they are powered by usb (unlike the MOTu Express XT which connects to AC). If I can find an inexpensive 5 volt wall-wart and can figure out how to hook the power up, maybe I will give the MT4 a try in stand alone mode.  Would be nice to have a 2 in 4 out midi merger, if I could get power to it.

I had actually open one up to see if I could cannibalize it for use with an Arduino. OMG!!!! The Arduino I have can run off a 9V wall-wart (thanks to some regulators), so maybe I can take the 5 volts from the Arduino. Hmmmmmmmmm . . . .

(Stay tuned for further developments.)

Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno wrote:
>
> Given the fact that most devices don't propagate MIDI Clock to MIDI Thru
> outputs, I don't think it's feasible to get it working properly without
> another device, namely a MIDI interface with configurable standalone mode.
> If you don't use (and you don't plan to use) a 64-bit Windows system,
> eMagic AMT4 should do the trick for you on any Windows up to XP, as well as
> on Mac OS X. In standalone mode you have 32 user setups, where you can use
> connection matrix to do in-to-out mapping (no control over channel-based
> filtering or anything fancy), and you can even switch them using ordinary
> Program Changes on specific port & channel.
>
> It is a second-hand gear, which - afaik - can give you headache under 64
> bit Windows.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>;

> 2013/6/9 nikitsanpsix

>
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" wrote:
> > >
> > > Addendum: I tried looking for manuals for some of you gear to see what
> > midi i/o/thru each has. I found lots of info, including synth engine
> > capabilities and videos, but I did not find the midi i/o/thru details.
> >  (Possibly I looked at the wrong sites and I gave up too soon.)
> > >;
> > > As best as I can tell, though, you do not have a midi router, though it
> > seems as though you have 1 In and 1 Out on the focusrite and 1 In and 1 Out
> > on the E-Mu 1x1 that might let you use the computer as a router. However,
> > as a PC person, I don't know what midi filtering/routing software you would
> > use.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that you could have the Virus going to your Mac with 1
> > Midi In, and your Novation going into the Mac with the other Midi In.  If
> > the Novation will pass midi data to the Mac via usb, you could have the KP3
> > going to the second Midi in of you Mac.
> > >
> > > So, with appropriate sofware you either have 2 in 2 out or 3 in 2 out
> > routing capability (assuming you have Mac software that will do that).
> > >
> > >
> > > Virus --> Mac via focusrite
> > > Novation --> Mac via 1x1
> > >
> > > Mac --> Mp7 via focusrite
> > > Mac --> KP3 via 1x1
> > >
> > > OR (if Novation can send midi to Mac via usb):
> > >
> > > Novation --> Mac via usb
> > >
> > >; MP7 --> Mac via focusrite
> > > Virus --> Mac via 1x1
> > >
> > > Mac --> Mp7 via focusrite
> > > Mac --> KP3 via 1x1
> > >
> > > Would one of these two setups work for you?
> > >
> > > Also, if the virus rack has a thru, you could daisy chain a module to it.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >;
> > > Steve
> > >
> > I would like to do computerless true hardware setup. Ñomputer is used only
> > for stereo recording. I dont want to do midi routing in software.
> > And yes Virus have midi thru.
> > As I understand you, I can connect novation via virus midi thru to mp7,
> > But emu have only one midi in and i want record virus into mp7 too. that is
> > my problem.
> > and for kp3, i only need send to it midi clock, i dont need use midi out
> > from it.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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