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Re: Command Station Overhaul

2012-06-09 by bonzai2050

I don't have any idea about where to get custom moulded silicone sheets... and to be honest with you I don't know so much about electronics either.

But, if you or somebody actually did figure out how to replace the flakey buttons with an entirely different type of button (sort of like the ones on Electribes) I would definitely do it as well. :)

There is a link in this thread to a different type of switch which I believe would theoretically function (it was mentioned here). So as far as the new button/switch goes one has been found.

But yes, the issue now is some kind of silicone button cover. Definitely let us know if you figure something out!

Although my XL7 is basically unused and in perfect condition, the buttons have to be pushed a certain way for them to function properly. Otherwise they either send two hits, or none at all, and I also have to check the screen to make sure they functioned. 

We really need to just replace the damn things with Electribe-type buttons to make live performance less accident-prone and risky.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "intrepidpete" <peteflagg@...> wrote:
>
> If anyone has a source for silicone sheets, aftermarket buttons, or anything like that, pass along the info and I will give it a try and report back.
> 
> My pots (encoders) and pads are fine, but the buttons don't have a real great "click down and snap back up" response. Actually the buttons don't really have any movement at all (have to watch the cursor and display to see if each press worked). So I would be willing to give something like this a try and report back. Don't know how you would handle the LED lights in the buttons, but I could start with the 2 Cursor buttons first.
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "bonzai2050" <bonzai2050@> wrote:
> >
> > This is genius. Sorry to resurrect this thread but it's very very cool.
> > 
> > To clarify... this is about replacing the track buttons on the xl7 with different switches, which probably handle better? 
> > 
> > And bobsvitilla had the idea of using a single sheet of molded silicone... sort of like the buttons on the Korg Electribes? (I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Electribe buttons are a long piece of silicone 4x1, 8x1, or 16x1).
> > 
> > Has anybody actually replaced the track buttons with rubberish / silicone buttons?
> > 
> > Great group btw.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "bobsvitilla" <bobsvitilla@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks a million, the command station users community rocks.
> > > 
> > > So, that takes care of the electronics.  Now I need to hunt down proper pads/button covers and a tech that can do the work.  I will report back and let you know how it's going.
> > > 
> > > For button covers, I am thinking a single sheet of clear molded silicone.  Or maybe a couple, one for each zone.  It would also seal it up a bit and help protect it from dust and liquids.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "scodoha04" <douglas.harvey@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ...both or all of those might work. The exact replacement is at the previously mentioned site.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > or this one
> > > > > <http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=P10860\
> > > > > -ND>  ? also forgot to mention these
> > > > > <http://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/E-Switch/TL1105TF160Q/?qs=YXf4ACKMM4\
> > > > > yXTDcNlL%2f%252bWQ%3d%3d>  are the proper tact switches(had to search
> > > > > for a while to find the only post in the group to mention it). maybe we
> > > > > can start a database about switches, encoders etc that are compatible.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > will this encoder
> > > > > >
> > > > > <http://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bourns/PEC12-2217F-N0024/?qs=sGAEpiM\
> > > > > \
> > > > > > ZZMukHu%252bjC5l7YYGBZR7kDV9/7zekKtuDXTw=>   work? i too would like to
> > > > > > know about the squishy factor btw...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "scodoha04" douglas.harvey@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here's a front panel that takes in a lot of repair. Don't know about
> > > > > > the squishy factor....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.eprelectronics.com/store/html/Products/E-mu-Drum-machine~Comm\
> > > > > \
> > > > > > a/E-mu-Command-Stations/PCBA-front-panel-right--57.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@...m, "bobsvitilla" bobsvitilla@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My main encoder wheel and the cursor buttons are getting a little
> > > > > > flakey as well as the track 14 button.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am digging my command station enough that I think I want to give
> > > > > > it an overhaul to increase performance.  I am not worried about
> > > > > > improving the appearance or care much if it detracts either.  I want
> > > > > my
> > > > > > machine to work a bit smoother.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Who out their has modded the Command Station?  I know there were
> > > > > > some that changed out the display.  Are there parts on the market? 
> > > > > What
> > > > > > values do replacements need to have?  Anyone know a good tech on the
> > > > > > east coast (Philly/ NYC) that could perform the surgery?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am happy with the 4x4 grid and volume pots and the key pads.  I
> > > > > > definitely want to replace the tempo button with something a little
> > > > > > squishier so I could drum out the tempo.  The main encoder wheel
> > > > > > definitely needs to be replaced.  It works fine, but is a bit jumpy.
> > > > > > The cursor buttons and the track/trigger buttons need to be replaced.
> > > > > > If I am doing those I might just do all "clicky" buttons.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, what's available out there?  I am not super happy with the
> > > > > > current feel, but I do not want to sacrifice too much precision
> > > > > > (squishier but not too squishy).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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