Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

wow, that's really quite surprising. is this when the machine runs on it's own or as a slave?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, ADSR Multimedia <adsr.multimedia@...> wrote:
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> Unfortunately the CS MIDI clock drifts +/- 2 BPM, at least in my device
> (XL-7).
> I tested it with a single bassdrum track, using Logic with both an RME
> Fireface
> and an Emagic AMT-8 (serial and USB as well).
> It's just like that, and no matter what you do, will stay the same.
> 
> Mind you, AMT-8 has special optimized MIDI transmission (hence the name -
> active midi transmission),
> witch using Logic provides the best results - when all synced up to Logic as
> master, MIDI clock drifts only 5 milliseconds
> (stable, synced to my RME Fireface latency settings) +/- 22 samples @ 44.1
> kHz.
> 
> 
> Regards,
>     Zsolt | http://adsr.hu
> 
> 
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> 2011/8/18 splattabreakz <s_o_m_9000@...>
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> > yeah, i've slaved the cs to ableton and got drift issues.. with ableton
> > slaved i got wobbly tempo issues :/
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> > i really would prefer to keep the cs... hopefully the newest ableton
> > version will fix the wobbly tempo because i'd rather have the cs as clock
> > master.
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> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <Alan_mansfield@> wrote:
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> > > I tried a demo version of Ableton, and wasn't too impressed with it.
> > Aside from not liking it, I had quite a few problems with it playing nice
> > with an EMU 0404 and the CS... I assumed it was because of being a demo
> > version, but I had the exact same problems you did.
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> > > Just a thought, though... instead of slaving your DAW to the CS, have you
> > thought about slaving your CS to the DAW? I've had a lot of luck with that
> > configuration, by assigning the 16 tracks of the CS's sequencer to channels
> > 1-16A, and having it slaved to my DAW (Sonar 8.5) by sending 16 more tracks
> > of MIDI to channels 1-16B. I like the sequencer in the CS, but not for
> > everything... so I use it for the stuff I like on the A side, and also MIDI
> > out to control a hardware sampler and a couple of efx processors. For the
> > things that I prefer having a visual aid to sequencing, I record on the DAW,
> > and send to the B side. You can still assign real-time control set-ups with
> > the multi-setups menu and have hands on controls for channels on both sides,
> > giving you that 'hands on sequencing' feel. I always had much more luck with
> > the CS in the slave position as far as timing and latency, etc. I think the
> > CS silently suffers from 'MIDI choke' especially when things like polyAT are
> > being used that is less noticeable when receiving MTC rather than trying to
> > be the master clock. Just some things to think about... the CS is so
> > versatile, there's surely some set-up that will give you the flexibility
> > you're looking for, while playing nice with the rest of the rig.
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> > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: somatt@
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> > > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:46:10 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: FS: Pristine XL-7 in the UK
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> > > I think I rather quit using ableton than quit using CS maybe I am
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> > > On Aug 17, 2011 12:02 PM, "splattabreakz" <s_o_m_9000@> wrote:
> > > > Just to check, when you say you haven't had this problem before, was
> > that with Ableton? So you've had Ableton synced with other devices fine?
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> > > > I actually just checked the Ableton forum and apparently the latest
> > version addresses the Ableton as slave sync issue. I haven't tried it yet so
> > can't tell you if it works. There is a thread about it though, so maybe
> > there's something useful:
> > http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=165235
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> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, John Vokoun <johnvokoun@> wrote:
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> > > >> I just picked up an XL-7... I have the same clock 'drift' issues when
> > Ableton is set as Slave. I have not had this problem with other midi
> > devices set as master, sending master clock, just the XL-7. I have been
> > using my gear in a serial midi loop, through a midiman 1x1. I just ordered
> > a MOTU timepiece A/V to see if it can fix the clock issue. I would be happy
> > to let you know my results in about a week.
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> > > >> good luck!
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> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: splattabreakz <s_o_m_9000@>
> > > >> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
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> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:47 PM
> > > >> Subject: [xl7] Re: FS: Pristine XL-7 in the UK
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> > > >> yeah, see, this is a problem. i would prefer to avoid warping in
> > ableton because it introduces artifacts.
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> > > >> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt <somatt@> wrote:
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> > > >> > I use px7 for master. Clock a little jumpy but works ok. I Need to
> > manually
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> > > >> > warp clips after recording because of latency though.
> > > >> > On Aug 16, 2011 11:19 PM, "nikitsanpsix" <nikitsan@> wrote:
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> > > >> > > I have the same setup. XL-7 + Ableton.
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> > > >> > > XL-7 as a master sequencer.
> > > >> > > All work Ok for me.
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