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Re: assigning sends/sub-outputs - in the pattern

2011-02-08 by stimresp

I haven't tried this tip yet - sounds killer. No glitches or dropouts?

It prompted me to look at the MIDI spec in the manual- there are a few other destinations worth looking at:

- Controller 80 is hard-coded to the Arp Status parameter - 0=Off, 1=On, 2=P (preset), 3=M (master)
- Controllers 91-96 for FX depth (but why are there 5 for 2 fx processors)?
-And a few that raise an eybrow - 71 for 'Timbre/Har Inten' , 74 for 'Brightness' 

I used the XL-7 subs as a line mixer for ages, using 4 RCA - 1/4in jack converters (see pic) I fed each with one RCA channel. Not the most elegant solution, but it served me well.
http://www.giggear.com.au/images/D/AD-17%20Adaptor%202%20RCA(F)%20-%201%20TRS(M)%20rear.jpg
 
Cheers,
J

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
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> I saw that CC 79 is hard coded the way you describe, but for the most part I don't use the sends to route audio to the subouts. That being said--this is an absoultely wonderful tip (and a superb explanation of how to use it)! It almost makes me want to do something with this feature.
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> On the other hand, I have long used the returns on the "outputs" as a passive mixer (which someone else was asking about). Basically, you use TRS cables [aka return/send cables] that split into separate send and return plugs.
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> As the manual shows, the tip is the audio out (send) and the ring is the audio in (return). If you have a snake with 4 TRS connectors on one end and 4 plugs connected to the tips and 4 plugs connected to the rings on the the other end, you can use the the 4 ring plugs (return) to take audio from other gear and route it to the main outs through sub 1 and sub 2. The volume controls on the external gear are use to set your levels.
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> Since I don't simultaneously use the sub outs and the returns in this fashion, I am not sure what the implications are. Looking at the output section illustration, I am guessing that you can still use the sub outs (tip plugs) as separate outs while using the returns.
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> If you have any plugs in sub1 or sub2 at all, they show up in the MIX OUTPUT parameter menu item. If no plugs are there, the four sends get routed to the main audio outs. If the E-Mu detects a jack of any type in sub1, you >>can<< use send 2 to output audio to sub 1 out. If it detects a jack in sub 2, you >>can<< use send 3 to output audio to sub 2 out. Of course, if you are just doing the passive mixer thing, you can still have send 2 and send 3 going to main out. (See the output section and effects processors illustration.)
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> Under no circumstances can you route external audio back into an E-Mu synth to process it with either the effects processors or the P2K synth engine. You'd need an EOS Sampler with specific options installed to be able to do those things.
> 
> Again, great tip about CC79!!
> 
> Steve 
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> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@> wrote:
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> > until recently, if i wanted a patch to be routed to a particular 
> > sub-output (send) i would save an edited copy of the patch with "->2" 
> > appended to the patch name so i could tell it's routed to send 2, or 
> > sub-output 1.
> > 
> > of course this consumes a memory location for a patch which is often just 
> > a duplicate patch. not ideal.
> > 
> > better way: leave the "output" parameter alone in the patch. go into the 
> > event editor and create an event for that MIDI channel on CC-79:
> >   Controller 79 is hard-coded to the Mix Output parameter.
> >    0 = Use Preset
> >    1 = Send 1
> >    2 = Send 2
> >    3 = Send 3
> >    4 = Send 4
> > 
> > while looping, create the CC-79 event at tick 002. make sure it works as 
> > desired, then move the event to tick 001 (where it's used to set up the 
> > patch but won't loop).
> > 
> > with different effects (or effect/no-effect), multiple CC-79 messages can 
> > be used to bounce a patch to different effects/sends during different 
> > sections of a loop ;)
> > 
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