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Re: [xl7] Re: DAW w/ CS

2011-02-01 by James Ulibarri

yeah that was fun for about 3 days and now it's almost cheating and very boring.
Back to the Emax 1 and the ASR-X. No computers for me for a while.



2011/2/1 Matt <somatt@...>

So that's what multi is for

On Feb 1, 2011 1:58 AM, "Szőnyi András" <andras@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, stimresp wrote:
>
>> I've had only limited success dumping DAW-derived patterns into the CS vi e-loader.
> Usually, the channel information is not retained, and sometimes the imported pattern
>; introduced some note offsets.
>>
>
> Yes, I also found note offset problem.
> If the pattern length modified by the Live, the CS looses the last notes
> of the loop.
>
>
>> However, it is possible to record a multichannel pattern/arrangement
> onto a multichannel (Multi-A) track on the CS (using 'first note record'),
> copy that track to clipboard, then 'explode' it to the individual tracks. Works for me.
>>
>
> Thanks for this tip. I was trying to record with Multi MIDI mode and
> switched off rechannelizing with no succes because I forgot to use
> Copy/Explode track after recording. :)
>
>
>> I'm also using stepbeater VST to program drums. The midi-drag-drop imports directly into e-loader
> with channel information retained, with sometimes minor-but-correctable timing issues.
> see: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/21175
>>;
>
> Thanks for this link again, but for me is all about Live and CS.
> I use Live to add grooves and shuffles to the CS patterns
> and redraw the modulation curves if they need.
> As I see Stepbeater doesn't offer these functions.
>
> But anyway now I know how to record multichannels by CS
> I satisfied with this workflow. :)
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>> cheers,
>> J
>>
>> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> let the fun begin!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/1/30 James Ulibarri
>>>
>>>> That's totally nuts man. ( In a good way).
>>>> Yeah I don't mind that it does one track at a time. I think a
>>>> multitracked file would just make things more complicated. I love how you
>>>> said you're juggling files back and forth
>>>> to the CS and Ableton. I love the sound of that work flow. I wonder why
>>>> more people aren't working like this. Or maybe they are and they're just
>>>> keeping it on the low. That's cool if they are and I respect that. I'll
>>>> be trying this tonight.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/1/30 Sz?nyi András
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, James Ulibarri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks, bro. I will try it and let you know what happens. Ableton and
>>>>> the
>>>>>> CS could be the deadly combination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's an annoying issue with Ableton: the way it exports MIDI.
>>>>> Ableton lets you export only ONE clip to MIDI, not the whole arrangement
>>>>> or a whole row in the session view. With other words: no multitracks.
>>>>> (Although it can import or open multitracked MIDI files fine.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you use other (older) DAWs, like Cubase, Logic, ProTools,
>>>>> Sonar/Cakewalk, etc... they are able to export multitrack MIDI.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW I also use the Live because it's very fast and intuitive in many ways.
>>>>> So if I want to send back edited MIDI from Ableton into the CS,
>>>>> I synchronize them and simply play/record it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>;
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Sz?nyi András 40c3.hu>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>;>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When dumping midi files to the CS such as tracked/clocked drawn
>>>>>>> modulation
>>>>>>>> is omitted I am assuming....
>>>>>>>> I am talking about say filter cutoff at measure 2.1 to 8.4 with a
>>>>> value
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> like 10 to say fully open at 127 at any point within a* *sequence,
>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> down to beats/measures. Will these kinds of events import over to type
>>>>>>> .mid
>>>>>>>> files through e-loader? If not, then I think what a damn shame. And
>>>>> what
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> hassle to do this on the CS when it's so silky smooth on a soft
>>>>>>> sequencer.
>>>>>>>> FL studio, etc. I think real-time tweaks on the CS is not exact enough
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> what I am talking about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All data of the sequence is stored in the MIDI file,
>>>>>>> and all parameters should be seen in a DAW.
>>>>>>>;
>>>>>>> I assume that you use Ableton Live:
>>>>>>> in the Envelope view of a clip the modulated parameters can be edited.
>>>>>>> Or you can select yourself any modulations by their MIDI Ctrl number.
>>>>>>> (As I remember ususally the MIDI Ctlr number 79 and 80 mapped to the
>>>>>>> filter cutoff and resonance of a factory patch.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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