Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, stimresp wrote:

> I've had only limited success dumping DAW-derived patterns into the CS vi e-loader.
Usually, the channel information is not retained, and sometimes the imported pattern
introduced some note offsets.
>

Yes, I also found note offset problem.
If the pattern length modified by the Live, the CS looses the last notes 
of the loop.


> However, it is possible to record a multichannel pattern/arrangement
onto a multichannel (Multi-A) track on the CS (using 'first note record'),
  copy that track to clipboard, then 'explode' it to the individual tracks. Works for me.
>

Thanks for this tip. I was trying to record with Multi MIDI mode and 
switched off rechannelizing with no succes because I forgot to use 
Copy/Explode track after recording. :)


> I'm also using stepbeater VST to program drums. The midi-drag-drop imports directly into e-loader
with channel information retained, with sometimes minor-but-correctable timing issues.
see: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/21175
>

Thanks for this link again, but for me is all about Live and CS.
I use Live to add grooves and shuffles to the CS patterns
and redraw the modulation curves if they need.
As I see Stepbeater doesn't offer these functions.

But anyway now I know how to record multichannels by CS
I satisfied with this workflow. :)


Andrew


> cheers,
> J
>
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
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>> let the fun begin!
>>
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>> 2011/1/30 James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
>>
>>> That's totally nuts man. ( In a good way).
>>> Yeah I don't mind that it does one track at a time.   I think a
>>> multitracked file would just make things more complicated.   I love how you
>>> said you're juggling files back and forth
>>> to the CS and Ableton.  I love the sound of that work flow.   I wonder why
>>> more people aren't working like this.  Or maybe they are and they're just
>>> keeping it on the low.  That's cool if they are and I respect that.   I'll
>>> be trying this tonight.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/1/30 Sz?nyi András <andras@...>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, James Ulibarri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> thanks, bro. I will try it and let you know what happens. Ableton and
>>>> the
>>>>> CS could be the deadly combination.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's an annoying issue with Ableton: the way it exports MIDI.
>>>> Ableton lets you export only ONE clip to MIDI, not the whole arrangement
>>>> or a whole row in the session view. With other words: no multitracks.
>>>> (Although it can import or open multitracked MIDI files fine.)
>>>>
>>>> If you use other (older) DAWs, like Cubase, Logic, ProTools,
>>>> Sonar/Cakewalk, etc... they are able to export multitrack MIDI.
>>>>
>>>> BTW I also use the Live because it's very fast and intuitive in many ways.
>>>> So if I want to send back edited MIDI from Ableton into the CS,
>>>> I synchronize them and simply play/record it.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Sz?nyi András <andras@...<andras%40c3.hu>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When dumping midi files to the CS such as tracked/clocked drawn
>>>>>> modulation
>>>>>>> is omitted I am assuming....
>>>>>>> I am talking about say filter cutoff at measure 2.1 to 8.4 with a
>>>> value
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> like 10 to say fully open at 127 at any point within a* *sequence,
>>>> right
>>>>>>> down to beats/measures. Will these kinds of events import over to type
>>>>>> .mid
>>>>>>> files through e-loader? If not, then I think what a damn shame. And
>>>> what
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> hassle to do this on the CS when it's so silky smooth on a soft
>>>>>> sequencer.
>>>>>>> FL studio, etc. I think real-time tweaks on the CS is not exact enough
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> what I am talking about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All data of the sequence is stored in the MIDI file,
>>>>>> and all parameters should be seen in a DAW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I assume that you use Ableton Live:
>>>>>> in the Envelope view of a clip the modulated parameters can be edited.
>>>>>> Or you can select yourself any modulations by their MIDI Ctrl number.
>>>>>> (As I remember ususally the MIDI Ctlr number 79 and 80 mapped to the
>>>>>> filter cutoff and resonance of a factory patch.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>
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