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Re: [xl7] Re: DAW w/ CS

2011-01-31 by Matt

So what's up with the ableton? why is it so awesome? I know james will have a good answer for this. When I first got into music it was like some type of jive keyword if you're cool dubstepper kid u got the ableton. That and being a desktop support tech totally turned me off of it since I don't want to be working (troubleshooting shit on the computer) when I'm supposed to be playing (making music). But now I am starting to understand the power of the ability to view my patterns on a huge screen, and piano roll and stuff which can be a huge benefit. These are things you can't do on the CS.
Usually when I'm recording I just do live sets into audacity or a minidisc recorder... but i've been looking into possibly trying to integrate my computer. I have reason 5, I have a demo or renoise, I still keep hearing that if you want to be pro you need to get ableton live... which is both attractive and unattractive about it.
I have also been hearing good things about the Nuendo, pro tools, peak, cubase. I have a little bit of experience with digital performer, but not enough to make me want to use it. lol.
What's up DAW users give me the lowdown! Maybe this should be a new thread.
-matt

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:03 PM, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

Oh ok, now I see why you're using MidiYoke. The apps are fighting over the midi ports. I ran into this in the past. One c-blocks the other as they're jockeying for resources the whole time and one falls off. I gotcha now.

Neat stuff, but I am not feeling the integration. That's just me tho. If I were to use a full blown DAW than I would just get a midi controller and leave the CS off the chain. I think it complicates things. Atleast at this point. I'll probably get bored and try and jack with it later. Right now tho, I am not feeling it.

FL Studio was worse by the way.




On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:44 PM, stimresp <stimresp@...> wrote:

Make sure you are in multi mode and that rechannelize is off (both in the MIDI menu).



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
>
> I am going to try it in FL Studio and report back.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, stimresp wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I posted a reply earlier but it seems to have been lost. Anyway, the gist
> > was:
> >
> > Using 'first note record' and quantize off you can record multichannel
> > data, in real time + automation, from your DAW into a single multichannel
> > track (set to Multi-A), copy to clipboard, then 'explode to tracks'.
> >; Don't have the CS in front of me to check, but this has worked for me.
> >
> > Another possible solution is detailed here:
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/21175
> >
> > Cheers,
> > J
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>, Bruno

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > W dniu 31 stycznia 2011 19:14 u¿ytkownik James Ulibarri
> > > napisa³:
> >
> > > >; All this stuff works great on paper, and theoretically it's supposed to
> > do this or that.
> > >
> > > 1. Install MIDI Yoke (a "virtual MIDI cable", which connects one
> > > software to another).
> > > 2. Get your stuff done in Ableton.
> > > 3. Install any other MIDI sequencer that can record multitrack - I
> > > think Smasher would do (it's free and seems interesting on its own),
> > > but you can use anything else. I would (personally) use my old,
> > > venerable Cakewalk 3.0 - no multitrack, but you can easily do "split
> > > by channel" later.
> > > 4. Connect the output of Ableton to MIDI Yoke, then use it as input
> > > for Another Sequencer (AS).
> > > 5. Set AS to be a MIDI slave - external MIDI Clock etc.
> > > 6. Set Ableton to transmit MTC (MIDI Time Code), so you can press
> > > Record in AS and it won't start recording until you press Play in
> > > Ableton.
> > > 7. Record MIDI in AS, export to multitrack MIDI file.
> > > 8. Upload thru Eloader and enjoy.
> > >
> > > Yeah, there's some hassle involved. But once you get this procedure
> > > working, it will be a no-brainer. And if you find Ableton more
> > > powerful than CS in building patterns, I think it's worth of one day
> > > spent on getting those things rolling.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Bruno
> > >
> >
> >
> >;
>



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