Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Maybe I was not clear:
If I upload a pattern to the PC using Eloader,
and after open it in Ableton, I can't export the full
pattern as a standard MIDI file, only one track of the pattern.
So the workflow I mentioned before
(Write a pattern in CS ->
Upload to the PC by Eloader ->
Edit it in Ableton ->
Export it as MIDI file ->
Download that MIDI file back to the CS by Eloader),
doesn't work for me only in that case if the pattern has one single track.

For multitracked patterns I use different DAW to export the MIDI,
or if I edit the pattern in Ableton, I can only record the tracks
one by one in the CS via MIDI.

Or can anyone export from Ableton any multitrack MIDI file?


Andrew




On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, James Ulibarri wrote:

> That's totally nuts man. ( In a good way).
> Yeah I don't mind that it does one track at a time.   I think a multitracked
> file would just make things more complicated.   I love how you said you're
> juggling files back and forth
> to the CS and Ableton.  I love the sound of that work flow.   I wonder why
> more people aren't working like this.  Or maybe they are and they're just
> keeping it on the low.  That's cool if they are and I respect that.   I'll
> be trying this tonight.
>
>
>
> 2011/1/30 Szőnyi András <andras@c3.hu>
>
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>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, James Ulibarri wrote:
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>>> thanks, bro. I will try it and let you know what happens. Ableton and the
>>> CS could be the deadly combination.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There's an annoying issue with Ableton: the way it exports MIDI.
>> Ableton lets you export only ONE clip to MIDI, not the whole arrangement
>> or a whole row in the session view. With other words: no multitracks.
>> (Although it can import or open multitracked MIDI files fine.)
>>
>> If you use other (older) DAWs, like Cubase, Logic, ProTools,
>> Sonar/Cakewalk, etc... they are able to export multitrack MIDI.
>>
>> BTW I also use the Live because it's very fast and intuitive in many ways.
>> So if I want to send back edited MIDI from Ableton into the CS,
>> I synchronize them and simply play/record it.
>>
>> Andrew
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>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Szőnyi András <andras@c3.hu<andras%40c3.hu>>
>> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>> When dumping midi files to the CS such as tracked/clocked drawn
>>>> modulation
>>>>> is omitted I am assuming....
>>>>> I am talking about say filter cutoff at measure 2.1 to 8.4 with a value
>>>> of
>>>>> like 10 to say fully open at 127 at any point within a* *sequence,
>> right
>>>>> down to beats/measures. Will these kinds of events import over to type
>>>> .mid
>>>>> files through e-loader? If not, then I think what a damn shame. And
>> what
>>>> a
>>>>> hassle to do this on the CS when it's so silky smooth on a soft
>>>> sequencer.
>>>>> FL studio, etc. I think real-time tweaks on the CS is not exact enough
>>>> for
>>>>> what I am talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All data of the sequence is stored in the MIDI file,
>>>> and all parameters should be seen in a DAW.
>>>>
>>>> I assume that you use Ableton Live:
>>>> in the Envelope view of a clip the modulated parameters can be edited.
>>>> Or you can select yourself any modulations by their MIDI Ctrl number.
>>>> (As I remember ususally the MIDI Ctlr number 79 and 80 mapped to the
>>>> filter cutoff and resonance of a factory patch.)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
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