Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I haven't read all of the nitty gritty details in this thread, but I  something is unclear. Correct me if I am wrong, originally the goal was to shift only certain notes (e.g., even numbered notes) by a set amount. Then, the goal was to just shift an entire track forward or backward. Is this correct?

If its the latter, I would think that SCALE/SFIT START TIMES would be the correct tool. If that it, it looks like the E-Mu sequencer uses 384 divisions ber measure or 96 ppq, 48 pp8th, 24 pp16th, 12 pp32nd, 6 pp64th, etc.

If you want to just shift some notes (e.g., every other note, I do believe you'd have to do that by hand. It may be time consuming to scroll through all the notes in a pattern and tweak them individually, but it can be done with near microscopic precision.

Again, I am not sure I understand the current goal, but I hope this helps.

Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> dude, why would a cut and paste utility help me nudge a track to play early
> or late?
> 
> anways, i called Forat in LA and he said he knows what i am talking about.
> on an MPC you can swing notes both *early* and *late*.  and i think there is
> different levels of this.  i don't remember on my mpc-3000.
> 
> ok, narrowing down further on my original question.   in the Shift section
> of the CS, when a person is looking at the Bar:Beat:Tick section....Forat
> said what i am try to do has to do with the sequencer's timing resolution
> (ppq).  and it takes a little math to figure out how to delay a track to the
> values i am trying to do.
> 
> ok, i just found it online.   i knew i wasn't smokin crack!!    i'm a little
> surprised that this has never been discussed before.   what the heck are you
> guys doing out there with your command stations? :)
> 
> here is what i am saying to a tee...
> 
> http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=274872&sid=8805545cd5cea257a2764d43d8539a0c
> 
> bingo. figure this out and you have shuffle for days.
> 
> 
> 2011/1/21 Szõnyi András <andras@...>
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What about to cut and paste that track?
> > You can define where (which track, which bar - you may have to alter the
> > length of a bar) to paste.
> > http://www.emu.com/support/files/storage/XL7Op-F.pdf
> > 82. cut / 84. paste page (by the PDF).
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > > Besides all I am trying to do is nudge the track forwards and backwords
> > (in
> > > the studio) by a fixed amount with intent.
> > > But in the Schaltwerk you can delay a track by 1/16ths and 1/32nds.
> > > But that machine is gone. Although I may have a lead on another.
> > > And that's what I am after here. How to nudge/push a CS track in the same
> >
> > > way. I will just mess with it next weekend but the CS's Shift section is
> > > all I am trying to sort through in my head.
> > > What value with the data wheel will achieve a 1/16, 1/32, 1/64 nudge
> > > backwards (delay) in Emu's way of working?
> > >
> > > In this case it is an exact science, but i'm banging my head against the
> > > wall. It does work but what values equal what?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Szõnyi András <andras@...<andras%40c3.hu>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Excuse me for this rude question, but are you editing your
> > >> patterns on stage, in a live-perfomance-situation or
> > >> you just want to realize everything by the CS?
> > >> I mean, isn't it easier to edit these bits/notes in a DAW
> > >> and download/upload back the pattern to the CS?
> > >>
> > >> If the CS is the only "sequencer" part of your setup (without any
> > >> computer), I understand the thread...
> > >>
> > >> ...And one more thing I really sorry about: to jump in step or grid
> > >> recording mode, the sequence must be stopped. :(
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, James Ulibarri wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> anyways.
> > >>>
> > >>> Atom - "i don't spend time in step mode, but in "Grid Record" you can
> > edit
> > >>> the
> > >>> gate time for each note. pg 70-71 (pdf 82-83)."
> > >>>
> > >>> actually messing with that parameter just changes the duration of the
> > >>> note/step. i was talking offsetting or initiating delay or pre-delay or
> > >>> pushing and pulling that particular track. no you cannot drill down on
> > a
> > >>> note and move that actual step. it's not possible on the CS.
> > >>> but if you want to shift a whole entire track you can, but not one step
> > in
> > >>> particular.
> > >>>
> > >>> my PX-7 is having some surgery done and it won't be back in my paws
> > till
> > >>> next weekend. so I'm remembering playing with Shift and then having all
> >
> > >>> the
> > >>> parameters parameters to move the track back or forward. i guess it's
> > cool
> > >>> that it's so finite, but i wish there was a way to be able to move it
> > >>> 1/32nds or 1/16th's in delay verses having the whole bar:beat:tick
> > >>> parameters in front of me.
> > >>>
> > >>> this is how you create shuffle if you program on even notes, such as
> > >>> 2,4.6,
> > >>> etc by track shifting (or delaying the track). so my question is....
> > what
> > >>> actually are the values when playing with the data encoder? i hate it
> > when
> > >>> i cannot figure stuff by myself quickly. so pushing an entire measure
> > >>> would
> > >>> be equivalent to what? does anyone have a break down of what the CS is
> > >>> doing? sorry, i wouldn't have to ask if my unit was next to me.
> > >>>
> > >
> >  
> >
>