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Re: [xl7] Swing question

2011-01-22 by Szőnyi András

> dude, why would a cut and paste utility help me nudge a track to play early
> or late?


Sorry, it was a dumb idea,
but I thought, if you have 16th long bars (I don't know if it 
possible, my machine is not with me till Monday) you can
cut and paste the whole track with a 16th (one bar) later or earlier.


Andrew



>
> anways, i called Forat in LA and he said he knows what i am talking about.
> on an MPC you can swing notes both *early* and *late*.  and i think there is
> different levels of this.  i don't remember on my mpc-3000.
>
> ok, narrowing down further on my original question.   in the Shift section
> of the CS, when a person is looking at the Bar:Beat:Tick section....Forat
> said what i am try to do has to do with the sequencer's timing resolution
> (ppq).  and it takes a little math to figure out how to delay a track to the
> values i am trying to do.
>
> ok, i just found it online.   i knew i wasn't smokin crack!!    i'm a little
> surprised that this has never been discussed before.   what the heck are you
> guys doing out there with your command stations? :)
>
> here is what i am saying to a tee...
>
> http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=274872&sid=8805545cd5cea257a2764d43d8539a0c
>
> bingo. figure this out and you have shuffle for days.
>
>
> 2011/1/21 Szőnyi András <andras@...>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What about to cut and paste that track?
>> You can define where (which track, which bar - you may have to alter the
>> length of a bar) to paste.
>> http://www.emu.com/support/files/storage/XL7Op-F.pdf
>> 82. cut / 84. paste page (by the PDF).
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>> Besides all I am trying to do is nudge the track forwards and backwords
>> (in
>>> the studio) by a fixed amount with intent.
>>> But in the Schaltwerk you can delay a track by 1/16ths and 1/32nds.
>>> But that machine is gone. Although I may have a lead on another.
>>> And that's what I am after here. How to nudge/push a CS track in the same
>>
>>> way. I will just mess with it next weekend but the CS's Shift section is
>>> all I am trying to sort through in my head.
>>> What value with the data wheel will achieve a 1/16, 1/32, 1/64 nudge
>>> backwards (delay) in Emu's way of working?
>>>
>>> In this case it is an exact science, but i'm banging my head against the
>>> wall. It does work but what values equal what?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Szőnyi András <andras@...<andras%40c3.hu>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Excuse me for this rude question, but are you editing your
>>>> patterns on stage, in a live-perfomance-situation or
>>>> you just want to realize everything by the CS?
>>>> I mean, isn't it easier to edit these bits/notes in a DAW
>>>> and download/upload back the pattern to the CS?
>>>>
>>>> If the CS is the only "sequencer" part of your setup (without any
>>>> computer), I understand the thread...
>>>>
>>>> ...And one more thing I really sorry about: to jump in step or grid
>>>> recording mode, the sequence must be stopped. :(
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, James Ulibarri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>> Atom - "i don't spend time in step mode, but in "Grid Record" you can
>> edit
>>>>> the
>>>>> gate time for each note. pg 70-71 (pdf 82-83)."
>>>>>
>>>>> actually messing with that parameter just changes the duration of the
>>>>> note/step. i was talking offsetting or initiating delay or pre-delay or
>>>>> pushing and pulling that particular track. no you cannot drill down on
>> a
>>>>> note and move that actual step. it's not possible on the CS.
>>>>> but if you want to shift a whole entire track you can, but not one step
>> in
>>>>> particular.
>>>>>
>>>>> my PX-7 is having some surgery done and it won't be back in my paws
>> till
>>>>> next weekend. so I'm remembering playing with Shift and then having all
>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> parameters parameters to move the track back or forward. i guess it's
>> cool
>>>>> that it's so finite, but i wish there was a way to be able to move it
>>>>> 1/32nds or 1/16th's in delay verses having the whole bar:beat:tick
>>>>> parameters in front of me.
>>>>>
>>>>> this is how you create shuffle if you program on even notes, such as
>>>>> 2,4.6,
>>>>> etc by track shifting (or delaying the track). so my question is....
>> what
>>>>> actually are the values when playing with the data encoder? i hate it
>> when
>>>>> i cannot figure stuff by myself quickly. so pushing an entire measure
>>>>> would
>>>>> be equivalent to what? does anyone have a break down of what the CS is
>>>>> doing? sorry, i wouldn't have to ask if my unit was next to me.
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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