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Re: [xl7] another sampler/sequnecer (almost OT)

2011-01-14 by Scott Solmonson

> dude.. you already know my thoughts on the korg electribes and ensoniq stuff.   honestly if i saw someone at a gig and i saw them with an electribe performing i would be like "wuss!".  total cheese, dude.  first of all the sequencer blows on the es-1.  no swing, and no quantization, no shuffle.

James, there's a fair other bit of musicians around that would say the same thing about your reliance upon swing, quantization etc- I myself don't want to program them, they get built naturally because I input them with drumsticks :)
IMO there are two kinds of samplers- phrase samplers and reproduction samplers.
When combined with a capable sequencer, a phrase sampler becomes an awesome drum machine.
And the Korg Electribe ES-1 and ESX are the most directly-useful phrase-samplers I've ever used.

-SS

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On Jan 14, 2011, at 12:28 AM, James Ulibarri wrote:

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> Matt,
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> dude.. you already know my thoughts on the korg electribes and ensoniq stuff.   honestly if i saw someone at a gig and i saw them with an electribe performing i would be like "wuss!".  total cheese, dude.  first of all the sequencer blows on the es-1.  no swing, and no quantization, no shuffle.  not sure if you're using any of those facilities but that's a big no no for me. how boring sounding.   plus no real filters or LFO's.   big deal if it says "filter".  gee thanks.  what kind of filter?  lp/bp/hp at the very minimum let alone all the esoteric types in between must be implemented.  no LFO's and no selectable waveshapes for those LFO's for the filter, pitch, etc.  the ASR-X would allow you individual outs too if you bought the 8 output board.  you can add a scsi board too for $100 from thesoniq.com 
> also the electribe effects are absolute cheese.  that's not an effect engine... not sure what that is.  but ASR has the same chip in the DP4 for the most part.  that's a real effects mainframe.  one is a workstation and one is a toy.  you can make music with the korg but it's really really limited.  
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> don't waste your money bro on an electribe.  get the ASR-X. 
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> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
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> Did u get it and how do u like it? I am thinking of asr-x from ebay or of electribe esx. I already have rs7000 sampler too but thinking of selling since it sits in the corner  for difficulty of use and also I can't seem to program it on the fly.  Or maybe I just need to spend more time with the manual.
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> On Jan 12, 2011 2:06 PM, "Szőnyi András" <andras@...> wrote:
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> > Sorry for a new non-E-MU question but I've just found an old machine for a 
> > reasonable price.
> > Does anyone know the Ensoniq ASR-X Pro? - btw it looks like a prototype of 
> > the E-MU Command Stations. :)
> > (http://www.vintagesynth.com/ensoniq/asrxpro.php)
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> > I'm especially curious about the sound of that, not the sequencer 
> > capabilities. (The CS's sequencer or a DAW is good enough for me.)
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> > I know it is difficult to objectively talk about the sounds,
> > I try to give an example what kind of sound I'm looking for:
> > Until now I owned two samplers: E-MU ESI32 and an AKAI MPC 4000,
> > to be honest I felt the ESI has a much better sample playback.
> > (Unfortunately both machine had to be sold...)
> > 
> > Do I think right the ASR-X Pro has an ESI32-like sound or better?
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> > 
> > Andrew
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