Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Yeap, honestly I didn't get that analogy.
 
 
What I like from the command station's engine, is that is interesting. It has it's own identity. 
 
There's a standarized concept for most of the romplers:
An amp curve that can be modelated
A filter curve that can be modelated
A pitch curve that can be modelated.
A screen for selecting waves (generally four) 
A screen to select the effect. 
A screen for controllers assigning, keyshift, transponse. etc
Only  a few can stablish links between these ones.  generally, you can assgin to the LFO, amp, pan, pitch or filter. 
 
Mostly, on the multitimbre screen, you can specify some of these parameters for the patch inserted on the 16 slots for the multimode, and you can change decays, filters, etc, without affecting the patch itself on its location. 
 
I'fve seen that in all the romplers I've owned (fantom, triton, karma, motif, w7, etc)
 
But the command station engine is so fun to program, is different, you can stablish connections between these parameters, has diode, Clockquarter, clockwhole, pink, noise, and a lot of oddities to experiment with.  I LOVE the quantized delay start, so cool to use with several waves. 
It has chorus included as a parameter, not effect, some filters act like phaser or flangers, 
 
I still working on my head what to do with some features, after almost four years using it!!!
 
I miss so much a bigger LCD to work with these parameters...
 


--- On Mon, 7/28/08, malik <malik_martin@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: malik <malik_martin@...>
Subject: [xl7] Re: virus vs xl7?
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 5:29 PM






I don't get what CD vs vinyl has to do with Virus VS xx-7 although i 
guess i see the point you're trying to make, with the virus being 
vinyl?
either way, the virus and the xx-7s are 2 different monsters, synth 
engines included IMHO. I'm still trying to discover the synth side of 
my xx-7(posted about it a while back).

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> From: Scott Solmonson <scosol@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 6:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [xl7] virus vs xl7?
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> Yeah- what Aaron said- the XL7's synth engine is far beyond 
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> IMO they didn't do anything for me that my SQ-80 couldn't do (or 
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> Sure there's the polyphony and inputs but eh...
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> I'm one of the most ardent "CD VS Vinyl - you're an idiot" 
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> Waldorf Microwave XT - GOD in a box.
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> Uhm- the Kawai K5K was a good one too- I picked one up on the GC 
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