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"cd vs. vinyl - you're an idiot" and you're on the cd side?



now you really are an idiot...




plastic




l/n to marcel fengler vinyl 12" on ostgut ton.  playground/early glow.  no WAY it sounds as good on cd.  end of discussion.




p.s.  running a technics 1200 with stanton stylii......







-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Solmonson <scosol@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: [xl7] virus vs xl7?

























    

            
Yeah- what Aaron said- the XL7's synth engine is far beyond a "ROMpler"-



I've owned lots of synths, and not in a collector fashion- (including  

a VirusA and a VirusC) and I don't feel like I'm missing much by not  

having them anymore-

IMO they didn't do anything for me that my SQ-80 couldn't do (or  

JUNO-6/60/etc), which is 80s tech-

Sure there's the polyphony and inputs but eh...

It's a Virtual Analog, and a good one- but therein its limitations are  

defined- so why not just get a real one for 1/5 the price?

I've spoken many times with the guy who programmed the DSP in the  

Virus, and actually contributed some distortion algorithms to him, but  

I still am able to say that it just didn't do it for me.

I'm one of the most ardent "CD VS Vinyl - you're an idiot" proponents  

(on the CD side) but at the same time, an SQ-80, a Juno, SH101, TB303
-  

these just sound different, in a way that the Virus (or Nord or  

whatever) has not yet achieved.



I can't explain it- neither can you.

Different strokes for different folks-

But since you've got a spare rack space, I'll talk about synths I miss-

Waldorf Microwave XT - GOD in a box.

(for rack mounting, you'll just want the Microwave-II)

After hitting the "randomize" button, I've heard things come out of  

that that I couldn't comprehend-



Uhm- the Kawai K5K was a good one too- I picked one up on the GC  

blowout many years ago for those that remember-

Careful with that Reso knob-



Hmm what else- I think if I had to choose one synthesizer to sell  

someone on that was looking at a Virus (assuming you don't need all  

the gay computer integration). there is only one- and it's made by  

Dave Smith:



http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/per/index.php



Christ- I'm talking like an old guy-



-SS



On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Aaron Eppolito wrote:



> You can go pretty far with the XL-7 as a pseudo-analog synth.  What  

> you'll miss: hard sync, ring mod, FM, really fast LFOs, self- 

> resonant filters, live input.  You can get PWM in the XL-7 by  

> messing with the SLoop parameter, sorta do hard sync (albeit at a  

> pretty slow rate) with SRetrig, and the realtime Q you can do with  

> enough layers as I described a long time ago (one layer with low Q,  


> one with high, RT control is via volume on the high-Q layer).

>

> People who dismiss the P2k engine as a "ROMpler" are missing out on  

> some of the really cool stuff you can do in the patchcord section.   

> (not dissing you in any way; on the contrary, I applaud you for  

> thinking to use it in a more synth fashion!)

>

> The Virus is a cool synth and does have features that you simply  

> won't get in the XL-7.  That said, you can get pretty close (not  

> necessarily worse, mind you, just different) for a majority of  

> sounds and will certainly be able to make a ton of sounds a VA  

> simply can't.

>

> It's a tough choice.  I don't think you can go wrong with a Virus,  

> but you might want to spend some time programming a patch or two in  

> a VA style in the XL-7 before you decide to drop coin!

>

> -Aaron

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Atom Smasher <atom@...>

> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:54:21 AM

> Subject: [xl7] virus vs xl7?

>

> i have an empty space in my rack, and it's calling to me... one of the

> things that i though about filling it with is a virus-rack.

>

> i haven't yet explored the synth engine of the xl7, and it'll be a few

> weeks at least before i have a chance to dig around in it, so.... is

> anyone here a current or former virus owner? how does the xl7 compare
?

>

> right off the top, the virus is ostensibly a virtual analog synth,  

> and the

> xl7 seems more like a rompler. but i'm wondering if i could use some

> "basic" waveforms, a few layers, some virtual patch-cords, and some  

> midi

> CC controllers and roll my own virtual analog patches...? i'm  

> confident

> that i can get good sounds out of it, but can it compete with a  

> virus on

> the the merits of the virus?

>

> i only have one ROM slot in my xl7 filled, and i think it's the XL  

> ROM.

>

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> -- 

>         ...atom

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