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Re: virus vs xl7?

2008-07-26 by malik

wow, nice :)

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mauricio Balma <balmaproducer@...> wrote:
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> I can perfectly give a strong opinion about that, since I had a 
Virus B, and almost a year got the amazing Virus TI.
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> Most of the freak hardware producers, don't have a good opinion 
about romplers.  Romplers are inferior when talking about sound 
quality, capabilities of synthesis, and morphing sounds.  They are 
just frozen recordings, "corpse sounds". I have owned around 10 
romplers (mostly several workstations) and in this moment I have 
around 7 VAs, like the V synth, Virus T1,  3 Electribes and a Waldorf 
Q. 
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> Despite having a good arsenal of VAs,  lots of my basses, leads, 
short blips, arpeggios, still comming from my two command stations  
engine. 
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> Combining several waves, with different settings on the Z plane 
filters, can result on phat, powerful sounds. 
> And that's amazing, considering the huge limitations of the command 
station's EFFECT section. 
> I have dig during years the cords section, using the quantizer 
parameter, pink, noise, connecting in all the possible ways these 
amazing pseudo modular section, and you can get incredible sounds 
there. 
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> Command station was made with a great concept.  After using big 
synths like the waldorf or the T1, I still having fun creating sounds 
from scratch on the XL7
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> You guys made a great work with the command station, you realize 
that, when a producer that has multiple options for creating music, 
still having fun with the command station, sitting in the middle of 
an arsenal of real analog and virtual analog machines. 
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> I still recommending this "rompler" to each producer I meet.
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> --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
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> From: Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...>
> Subject: Re: [xl7] virus vs xl7?
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 2:49 PM
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> You can go pretty far with the XL-7 as a pseudo-analog synth. What 
you'll miss: hard sync, ring mod, FM, really fast LFOs, self-resonant 
filters, live input. You can get PWM in the XL-7 by messing with the 
SLoop parameter, sorta do hard sync (albeit at a pretty slow rate) 
with SRetrig, and the realtime Q you can do with enough layers as I 
described a long time ago (one layer with low Q, one with high, RT 
control is via volume on the high-Q layer).
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> People who dismiss the P2k engine as a "ROMpler" are missing out on 
some of the really cool stuff you can do in the patchcord section. 
(not dissing you in any way; on the contrary, I applaud you for 
thinking to use it in a more synth fashion!)
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> The Virus is a cool synth and does have features that you simply 
won't get in the XL-7. That said, you can get pretty close (not 
necessarily worse, mind you, just different) for a majority of sounds 
and will certainly be able to make a ton of sounds a VA simply can't.
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> It's a tough choice. I don't think you can go wrong with a Virus, 
but you might want to spend some time programming a patch or two in a 
VA style in the XL-7 before you decide to drop coin!
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> -Aaron
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Atom Smasher <atom@smasher. org>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:54:21 AM
> Subject: [xl7] virus vs xl7?
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> i have an empty space in my rack, and it's calling to me... one of 
the 
> things that i though about filling it with is a virus-rack.
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> i haven't yet explored the synth engine of the xl7, and it'll be a 
few 
> weeks at least before i have a chance to dig around in it, so.... 
is 
> anyone here a current or former virus owner? how does the xl7 
compare?
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> right off the top, the virus is ostensibly a virtual analog synth, 
and the 
> xl7 seems more like a rompler. but i'm wondering if i could use 
some 
> "basic" waveforms, a few layers, some virtual patch-cords, and some 
midi 
> CC controllers and roll my own virtual analog patches...? i'm 
confident 
> that i can get good sounds out of it, but can it compete with a 
virus on 
> the the merits of the virus?
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> i only have one ROM slot in my xl7 filled, and i think it's the XL 
ROM.
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