Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Ugh, I can't figure out how to get yahoo mail to quote stuff so I can interleave comments (I did the last one by hand).


Append Pattern:
You can use Xmix for this too!  (that seems to be my answer for everything here!)  You'll still have to get them one by one, but you can pretty quickly go into XMIX and dial up the source pattern.  Then, you simply push the button for destination track then the button for the source track over and over.  You can then save the pattern over itself or to a new pattern.


Transpose:
Yeah, there's no way to limit bar range.  Ideally, it'd have a realtime transpose feature along with realtime quantize.


Comments:
Don't know if you were around back when I did 2.0, but much of those features were requests from this mailing list!


-Aaron


----- Original Message ----
From: Mauricio Balma <balmaproducer@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:34:08 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] list edit increment


Thanks a lot Aaron for your complete answer.  It's incredible when you
 have years using a device, and when you think you know it all, somebody
 comes and teach you something new about it.  I know that also some
 comments from the users, can result on improvements for future products,
 so that's my intention. 
   
  Other points that I could mention: 
   
  Append pattern. During the composition process, I use to duplicate
 patterns, saving the same pattern on the following memory slot.  Then, I
 go to that pattern, and add variations to notes, make modifications,
 add new melodies, etc, in order to create a second part of the original
 pattern. It would be very useful, if you can take that pattern, and put
 it at the end of the previous patttern.  I don't how to call it, append
 pattern or merge patterns, but this is not possible on the command
 station.  You have to use the copy track to clipboard function, track by
 track, one by one, and that's tedious.  Lots of synths that I've used,
 specially workstations like the Yamaha Ex5, SY99, W7 and Motif, have
 this feature. Not scential, but helpful.
   
  Transponse track:  how much I miss a more useful transponse function
 when composing tracks!!!!.  On the knobs (play mode), you have four
 different functions for the 16 knobs.  Adding a transpose function would
 be so, so helpful when composing and playing on realtime.  what I do to
 replace this missing function, is to use the transponse hold button,
 when you are playing live, sometimes tracks beg you for a inmediate pitch
 change, in orden to create variations on harmonies.  Also, when
 composing, for example a 8 bar pattern, you will like to change the pitch of
 the notes on a bass track on +2 or -3 transposve value, but it's not
 possible, you can only select note range (-G2 to C8), but not measure
 range.  You have to go to edition screen, and change pitch note by note on
 the desired range.  Or copy that range, save it on a new pattern,
 apply the transponse change command, copy it to clipboard, going to
 previous pattern, erase range from 5 to 8, and then pasting the recently
 edited segment...
   
  A good implementation of this, are the crappy Roland Groovebox
 series. You can store the same pattern on a 16 locations map (using the mini
 16 notes keyboard to select patterns).  You can store on the slots, the
 same pattern but different transponse notes for each track. So, lots
 of variations can be stored using the same pattern, without having to
 create a new pattern with different pitches for each tracks.  that's cool
 and a good idea...  
  This could be added on the EMU, without having to add new hardware,
 on a screen like the mix screen, where you can see a simple graphic for
 the volume and pan. honestly, that button was like new, I never use it,
 so I opened the EMU,and used the switch circuit of the mix button, to
 replace the broken one of the pattern select button, that died for
 overusing it. 
   
  Hope to be constructive on my comments.  
   
  I admire the LINK feature on the patch edit function.  These are the
 features that I love on a synth.  Haven't found something similar on
 other devices.  One of the features that strongly identify the EMU style.
  These are the things that make you worth the money you paid for the
 synth.  Experimental, deep, something to look over for hours during
 patch edition.  Creates synergy.  Resulting patches, are more than the
 simple addition of their components. I have created so great patches using
 the LINK function.... congrats for this feature....
   
  Balma
   
   
  

Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
          Thanks for the feedback. It's always nice to hear that we hit
 the target for people. I snipped some things out of your post to
 answer:

----- Original Message ----
From: Mauricio Balma <balmaproducer@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] XL7, compared to...

> I just complaint about issues like: 

> Moving the curson on the edition mode, in order to advance from note
to note.
> Editing a big group of notes one by one is horrible tedious,
since you have
> only the cursor buttons to navigate throught them. 

Oooh, but you don't!!! Simply hold the Home/Enter button while turning
 the encoder wheel! It'll increment you forward and back through notes,
 leaving you on the same field. If you don't turn the encoder,
 Home/Enter will take you to the title, so make sure to at least move one note
 (and back if you didn't really want to move) so as to stay on velocity or
 whatever.

> I like to add randomized values to my notes to give a human touch to
the track.
> I don’t like too accurate start times, so, if recorded
quantized, I go note by note
> to modify the start time of each one.
That’s very hard on the command station.

Wow, that's dedication. Note/List Edit were put in there as a last
 resort if you really had to edit that sort of detail. It's not something I
 try to use too often. When I do, it's usually to erase (or transpose)
 that one bum note in a track. You can use it to do full editing, but
 it's really just to hard to do computer style sequencing on a 2x24
 character display!

> For example, you aren’t
able to hear a patch before overwriting it

I wish you didn't have to save presets at all and instead, they'd save
 themselves with the pattern!

> you are not able to browse
by category when you are gonna save a patch
> (so, you could find faster
empty slots for saving patches)

Good point! I can't remember why we didn't put that in there, I'd
 imagine it'd be easy, but I vaguely remember something like that the Save
 Patch class and the Category Patch class depended on different base class
 for some reason or something like that.

> But I want to let you know that I’m a big fan of your design. 
Have more than 20 synths,
> some of them wonderful machines like the Vsynth,
the Virus or the roland Jupiter, and
> command station are between my
favorintes, and one of the synths I’ll never sell.

Thanks again! I have a soft spot for them - every time I clean my
 apartment and stumble across the development equipment, I wanna go add
 features! Now if I could only fix my encoders in software...

-Aaron

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