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Re: [xl7] list edit increment

2008-01-23 by Mauricio Balma

Thanks a lot Aaron for your complete answer.  It's incredible when you have years using a device, and when you think you know it all, somebody comes and teach you something new about it.  I know that also some comments from the users, can result on improvements for future products, so that's my intention. 
   
  Other points that I could mention: 
   
  Append pattern. During the composition process, I use to duplicate patterns, saving the same pattern on the following memory slot.  Then, I go to that pattern, and add variations to notes, make modifications, add new melodies, etc, in order to create a second part of the original pattern. It would be very useful, if you can take that pattern, and put it at the end of the previous patttern.  I don't how to call it, append pattern or merge patterns, but this is not possible on the command station.  You have to use the copy track to clipboard function, track by track, one by one, and that's tedious.  Lots of synths that I've used, specially workstations like the Yamaha Ex5, SY99, W7 and Motif, have this feature. Not scential, but helpful.
   
  Transponse track:  how much I miss a more useful transponse function when composing tracks!!!!.  On the knobs (play mode), you have four different functions for the 16 knobs.  Adding a transpose function would be so, so helpful when composing and playing on realtime.  what I do to replace this missing function, is to use the transponse hold button, when you are playing live, sometimes tracks beg you for a inmediate pitch change, in orden to create variations on harmonies.  Also, when composing, for example a 8 bar pattern, you will like to change the pitch of the notes on a bass track on +2 or -3 transposve value, but it's not possible, you can only select note range (-G2 to C8), but not measure range.  You have to go to edition screen, and change pitch note by note on the desired range.  Or copy that range, save it on a new pattern, apply the transponse change command, copy it to clipboard, going to previous pattern, erase range from 5 to 8, and then pasting the recently
 edited segment...
   
  A good implementation of this, are the crappy Roland Groovebox series. You can store the same pattern on a 16 locations map (using the mini 16 notes keyboard to select patterns).  You can store on the slots, the same pattern but different transponse notes for each track. So, lots of variations can be stored using the same pattern, without having to create a new pattern with different pitches for each tracks.  that's cool and a good idea...  
  This could be added on the EMU, without having to add new hardware, on a screen like the mix screen, where you can see a simple graphic for the volume and pan. honestly, that button was like new, I never use it, so I opened the EMU,and used the switch circuit of the mix button, to replace the broken one of the pattern select button, that died for overusing it. 
   
  Hope to be constructive on my comments.  
   
  I admire the LINK feature on the patch edit function.  These are the features that I love on a synth.  Haven't found something similar on other devices.  One of the features that strongly identify the EMU style.  These are the things that make you worth the money you paid for the synth.  Experimental, deep, something to look over for hours during patch edition.  Creates synergy.  Resulting patches, are more than the simple addition of their components. I have created so great patches using the LINK function.... congrats for this feature....
   
  Balma
   
   
  

Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
          Thanks for the feedback. It's always nice to hear that we hit the target for people. I snipped some things out of your post to answer:

----- Original Message ----
From: Mauricio Balma <balmaproducer@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] XL7, compared to...

> I just complaint about issues like: 

> Moving the curson on the edition mode, in order to advance from note
to note.
> Editing a big group of notes one by one is horrible tedious,
since you have
> only the cursor buttons to navigate throught them. 

Oooh, but you don't!!! Simply hold the Home/Enter button while turning the encoder wheel! It'll increment you forward and back through notes, leaving you on the same field. If you don't turn the encoder, Home/Enter will take you to the title, so make sure to at least move one note (and back if you didn't really want to move) so as to stay on velocity or whatever.

> I like to add randomized values to my notes to give a human touch to
the track.
> I don’t like too accurate start times, so, if recorded
quantized, I go note by note
> to modify the start time of each one.
That’s very hard on the command station.

Wow, that's dedication. Note/List Edit were put in there as a last resort if you really had to edit that sort of detail. It's not something I try to use too often. When I do, it's usually to erase (or transpose) that one bum note in a track. You can use it to do full editing, but it's really just to hard to do computer style sequencing on a 2x24 character display!

> For example, you aren’t
able to hear a patch before overwriting it

I wish you didn't have to save presets at all and instead, they'd save themselves with the pattern!

> you are not able to browse
by category when you are gonna save a patch
> (so, you could find faster
empty slots for saving patches)

Good point! I can't remember why we didn't put that in there, I'd imagine it'd be easy, but I vaguely remember something like that the Save Patch class and the Category Patch class depended on different base class for some reason or something like that.

> But I want to let you know that I’m a big fan of your design. 
Have more than 20 synths,
> some of them wonderful machines like the Vsynth,
the Virus or the roland Jupiter, and
> command station are between my
favorintes, and one of the synths I’ll never sell.

Thanks again! I have a soft spot for them - every time I clean my apartment and stumble across the development equipment, I wanna go add features! Now if I could only fix my encoders in software...

-Aaron

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