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Thank's for aswering...
  Ufff, it's getting complicate ....
  Alesis Micron use NRPN messages!!!! Why is so complicate?
   
  I found this on a forum:
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  Re: [micron] How do you use a MIDI controller to edit Micron Patches? 
  
 
  Hi Aaron

> I also wish to know more about how to send NRPNs to the Micron. It is
> not clear to me what numbers need to be sent,

It's all a bit confusing isn't it! First off I do know that people have
successfully setup the Behringer BCR2000 as an external editor for the
Micron. And the BCR does handle transmitting NRPNs. Somebody in this group
infact (Godrich?) So it's possible! However, I don't want one and you
haven't got one. I really like the look of the Photon X25. I love the pitch
wheel on the Micron and the X25 has a pitch and mod wheel like it.

>
>> > The micron sends and receives NRPNs, if you want CCs, you must
>> edit the
>> > mod matrix for each patch to affect a CC to a parameter.
>> [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alesis-ion/message/14219]>
> This is a reference to selecting specific CCs in the mod matrix to
> control specific parameters. Sure, this should work, but you are
> limited to 12 (?) mod inputs and you have to assign them on a patch-
> by-patch basis.

Yes, just tried this with limited success. Limited for the reasons you
mention but also because not all patch parameters are available (waveform
type for example) and the notion of level and offset means you're working
around a given value rather than the range of all values. If you get what I
mean.

> other than NRPNs, which are actually a kind of CC.
>> ... which would seem to exclude the notion that transmitting an NRPN
>> involves stringing together a number of MIDI CCs on a single knob?
> NRPNs consist of multiple messages sent together.

Yeah. Did you see my link in the previous post
http://www.philrees.co.uk/nrpnq.htm? I think I get how NRPNs work. Two MIDI
CC messages to indicate an NRPN is on the way and what one it is then
another MIDI CC (or two depending on the value range) saying what value that
NRPN should take.

> Anyway, I hope that someone with more knowledge chimes in on this
> subject. I would like to send NRPNs with my Ozonic,

BUT ... how that relates to your Ozonic or my possible purchase of a Photon
X25 I'm not sure! I had a BCR2000 for a little while and for a given knob
you explicitly stated whether you were simply sending MIDI CC or an NRPN. So
it was quite straightforward in that sense.

I've just been looking around the files section and found Ohmstudiste's
folder. It has a Micron NRPN list but also a MidiOx mapping file. I'm going
to investigate this further. I assume it maps MIDI CCs to NRPNs. This is
cool but it's not a direct solution as it requires a computer and MidiOx
running.

It's a shame because if one truly gets fed up with the limited hands-on
editing facilities of the Micron it's tempting to go "oh I should have
bought an Ion". But! That doesn't solve anything as there's loads of cool
features on the Micron I'd really miss that aren't on the Ion (patterns,
drums etc).

Ooh ... can an Ion edit Micron patches? Nah that's just getting silly!

Jim
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