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Re: [xl7] Re: Analouge vs VA vs Sample Based

2006-05-17 by thomas pagan

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Alien <23rdsigil@...> wrote:  > The difference is small? If still think otherwise. 

Part of the point of the writing indeed lied in an implication that
the difference was small IN SOME WAYS.  I was definately hoping to
convey the notion that if one used sample based material as opposed to
actual analouge, that in the cases not utilizing waveshaping controls
that generally speaking they could probably come up with fairly close
replicas of the timbres they would hope to make on an analouge synth
so long as the sample based synth had a capable architecure.

I think what I may have neglected to state in the writing was the
amount of hands on control that tended to disapate from a lot of
sample based instrumentation (both hardware and software), but out
side of this they do reflect each other heavily.

> There is no VA that can emulate rawness of my Waldorf Pulse just 
> with the oscs.

This would be another one of those cases though where I would chalk
things up to an area of minimal difference though.  For example, it's
probable that with a bit of EQ work, some additional work on the OSC
in a modular unit like Reaktor, or by simply grabbing a sampled
wavefrom from a Pulse, one could probably fairly easily come up with
their desired result.  I don't consider such things any more than
minimal as it's a relatively low amount of work needed to generate
replicas.  Conversely, active waveshaping becomes a much more
complicated affair.

> Even if you would say: if the 777 didn't have that analogue filter I 
> would be able to recreate its sound on the supernova...the filter is 
> an essential part of every synth.

I couldn't agree more.

> In my opninion the oscs of the supernova 2 are pretty thin (some 
> believe it uses sampled waves for sound generation). But it is 
> extremely flexible. Does this mean that the difference between 
> analogue and VA is small? I say no.

If the differences between the two were so great that even within a
mix of things one could easily tell the difference between what was
coming from a true analouge synth and what originated from a VA, I
would agree with you.  I don't believe this to be the case however. 
Conversely, though at times it can be hard to tell, pushed outside of
niche areas, it can become EXTREMELY easy to tell the difference
between one playing a sample based guitar sound and one that was truly
playing guitar.....don't expect to become a Van Halen with sample
based material without it showing that you were using sample based
material.


Regards,

      Al





    
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