Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I will use it only as a midi controller, but I don't like it very 
much neither. keyboard is really plastic, buttons are not well 
aligned, and it lacks of usefull function such as saving controllers 
assignement, or split the keyboard. I think i will change it with 
something smaller and of better quality, when I'll have the budget 
for that!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
>
> Based on our conversation, I picked up a used evolution (on ebay). 
I 
> see the problem first-hand with the lack of midi in. Using the 
> SB/Creative midi i/o should solve your original problem. 
> 
> As for the evolution, the usb midi out and the regular midi out 
seem 
> to work just fine. However, the keyboard "sucks" (IMO, to borrow 
> your phrase). It has the feel of a cheap toy electronic keyboard. 
> (You know--the ones with the speakers built in.) I tried all of the 
> keyboard velocity scalings, and have not found one that works for 
me 
> with heavy springs of the unit. (The knobs are nice, though; but 
the 
> button/display seems quirky.)
> 
> If you like the feel of the evolution and the midi out-->usb works 
> for you, you should still be able to used the SB midi in (as long 
as 
> the card doesn't have any conflicts).
> 
> (I hope no one takes my purchase of the evolution as an 
endorsement. 
> It seemed like a decent price to test it out. It may still work for 
> taking around to schools, doing arts-in-education stuff, and for 
> note entry/composing. As of now, I don't see using it for serious 
> performance. Well, maybe for turning on beats, arpegiators, etc.) 
> 
> --Steve
> 
> BTW, you can use e-loader's midi monitor to test both the usb and 
> midi outs of the evolution. 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01" <waveplayer@t...> wrote:
> >
> > ok guys, NOW I have a "real" midi interface. It is my old 
creative 
> > Live! gold, it has two real midi port and a digital in/out. I 
> haven't 
> > bought anything because I'm planning to buy a new firewire 
> interface 
> > with audio and midi all in one.
> > I tried it with e-loader and it works properly.
> > 
> > I also tried to upload the un-famous banks from Rob Papen and all 
> > went perfectly! at first strike! how many time spent on that, and 
> the 
> > solution was simple...
> > 
> > So I've learnt three important thing: 
> > 1. the midi out of my evolution keybord sucks
> > 2. never send sysex with a sucking midi out
> > 3. never send sysex before doing a back-up
> > 
> > Now I've solved the problem the upload those rob papen banks, but 
> as 
> > you know I have a new one: my sequences are corrupted and my xl-7 
> > doesn't work properly. So I will back up everything and then 
reset 
> > the machine. How can I reset it? I haven't found this anywhere in 
> the 
> > manual.
> > 
> > thx
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you think your global options are set to strange values, 
> reset 
> > them
> > > by simply restoring the factory multisetup (#63).  Remember 
that 
> if 
> > you
> > > don't have sequence data on a track (i.e. a note or controller 
or
> > > something) it won't save the preset for that channel.  That's 
by 
> > design
> > > (though a choice I regret considering how many people it's 
> > confused).
> > > 
> > > -Aaron
> > > 
> > > PS. compacting memory will never fix anything.  It's only to 
> > defragment
> > > memory before going out live so that compaction doesn't run
> > > automatically while you're in the middle of your set.  If it 
> says it
> > > doesn't need it, it really doesn't.
> > > 
> > > --- gonzinigonz <gonzini@f...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > ooops yes your right Chris, bit less hectic than starting 
> again..
> > > > 
> > > > >Sure I have to buy a midi interface to back up things!
> > > > cool, you wont regret it
> > > > 
> > > > >since now I haven't do back up, and I will never try again 
to 
> > send
> > > > >sysex without doing back up before!
> > > > always..
> > > > 
> > > > >now the question is: do you think that a reset would give me 
> > back my
> > > > >xl-7 as before, or memory has became phisically corrupted?
> > > > Well you will lose your sound banks as i dont think theres a 
> > level of
> > > > reset that will leave them intact.
> > > > The other level of reset will leave the user pattern data 
> > untouched,
> > > > but if this is were the problem is then you wont have much 
> choice.
> > > > As long as the unit dosent have other hardware problems a 
reset
> > > > should get things back to a clean slate.
> > > > You will have to reload sound bank data though.. think the 
> > presets 
> > > > get copied over to the user banks when you reset.
> > > > Also if you do the whole memory reset the pattern data will 
> have 
> > to 
> > > > be loaded back as well. Seeing that your having problems with 
> > this.. 
> > > > Id get a midi interface before doing anything and atempt to 
> back 
> > up 
> > > > whats there. If the problem reappears after a successful 
> reload 
> > then 
> > > > theres yopur problem. you might be able to track it down to 1 
> > rogue 
> > > > patten or sound patch (more likely to be a pattern in that 
> case..)
> > > > Ive come accross this of problem before with other gear 
> (akai..)
> > > > Hopefully its a problem like Chris has mentioned
> > > > be carefull eh
> > > > Gonz
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <cdh79@g...> wrote:
> > > > > check if you have disabled the midi-channel..
> > > > >  
> > > > > the patter loads up with a program change command, so if 
you 
> > have 
> > > > midi
> > > > > disabled for this track (i.e. when using an external synth 
> in 
> > > > another
> > > > > song and not changing it back) it might happen that the 
> right 
> > > > pattern is
> > > > > not loaded.. 
> > > > >  
> > > > > try enabling all midi channels, then press the stop button 
3 
> > times 
> > > > to
> > > > > reset the pattern (or simply change the pattern and go back 
> to 
> > it 
> > > > again)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: xl7@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xl7@yahoogroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of
> > > > > eriksatie01
> > > > > Sent: Samstag, 1. Oktober 2005 22:02
> > > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [xl7] Re: (not installed) ???? please help!!!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sure I have to buy a midi interface to back up things!
> > > > > since now I haven't do back up, and I will never try again 
> to 
> > send
> > > > > sysex without doing back up before!
> > > > > now the question is: do you think that a reset would give 
me 
> > back
> > > > my
> > > > > xl-7 as before, or memory has became phisically corrupted?
> > > > > 
> > > > > thx
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > Its possible that the internal memory has been corupted 
> > whilst 
> > > > trying 
> > > > > > to send sysex to it, seeing that you've had so hassle 
> trying 
> > to 
> > > > get 
> > > > > > it to work. (command station timming out and stuff)
> > > > > > Have you backed up your patterns via E-Loader?
> > > > > > As you dont seem to have a midi in on your PC i guess you 
> > havant 
> > > > been 
> > > > > > able to back up your sound banks?
> > > > > > It would of been good if you could of done this before 
> things 
> > > > went 
> > > > > > bad, as now it looks like you might have to reset the 
> machine.
> > > > > > I think thats what you might have to do if its playing 
> around 
> > > > with 
> > > > > > you.
> > > > > > Also you need to get a proper midi interface for your PC 
> as 
> > you 
> > > > have 
> > > > > > to back up data. Its a computer and not the most reliable 
> one 
> > at 
> > > > > > that..
> > > > > > Maybe someone else here has a better idea?
> > > > > > Gonz
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01" 
<waveplayer@t...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > alredy tried...
> > > > > > > it tells me that there's no need to do it and it 
doesn't 
> do 
> > > > > > nothing...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > please doctor, tell me... is it serious?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > holy shit. whats whole defragmenting thing the 
command 
> > > > station 
> > > > > > can do? 
> > > > > > > > maybe that will help. maybe you should wait for a 
> better 
> > > > opinion.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01" 
> > <waveplayer@t...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > what's happening here?
> > > > > > > > > today I turned on my xl-7 and many of may patterns 
> was 
> > > > > > corrupted. may
> > > > > > > > > traks are not correctly assigned to its preset. 
> Insted 
> > of 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > name af
> > > > > > > > > the right preset,a message says (not installed).
> > > > > > > > > Moreover, if I re-assign the right preset to the 
> track, 
> > and
> > > > 
> > > > > > then save
> > > > > > > > > it again, this assignement go lost when I recall 
the 
> > > > pattern!!
> > > > > > > > > I've tried to save the preset to another location, 
> to 
> > save 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > patter
> > > > > > > > > to another location, to move the track to another 
> track 
> > > > number 
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > success.
> > > > > > > > > plese help me, I fear that all those tries with 
> sysex 
> > > > uploading 
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > caused some damage to my machine and to my work!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > davide
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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