Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Based on our conversation, I picked up a used evolution (on ebay). I 
see the problem first-hand with the lack of midi in. Using the 
SB/Creative midi i/o should solve your original problem. 

As for the evolution, the usb midi out and the regular midi out seem 
to work just fine. However, the keyboard "sucks" (IMO, to borrow 
your phrase). It has the feel of a cheap toy electronic keyboard. 
(You know--the ones with the speakers built in.) I tried all of the 
keyboard velocity scalings, and have not found one that works for me 
with heavy springs of the unit. (The knobs are nice, though; but the 
button/display seems quirky.)

If you like the feel of the evolution and the midi out-->usb works 
for you, you should still be able to used the SB midi in (as long as 
the card doesn't have any conflicts).

(I hope no one takes my purchase of the evolution as an endorsement. 
It seemed like a decent price to test it out. It may still work for 
taking around to schools, doing arts-in-education stuff, and for 
note entry/composing. As of now, I don't see using it for serious 
performance. Well, maybe for turning on beats, arpegiators, etc.) 

--Steve

BTW, you can use e-loader's midi monitor to test both the usb and 
midi outs of the evolution. 

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01" <waveplayer@t...> wrote:
>
> ok guys, NOW I have a "real" midi interface. It is my old creative 
> Live! gold, it has two real midi port and a digital in/out. I 
haven't 
> bought anything because I'm planning to buy a new firewire 
interface 
> with audio and midi all in one.
> I tried it with e-loader and it works properly.
> 
> I also tried to upload the un-famous banks from Rob Papen and all 
> went perfectly! at first strike! how many time spent on that, and 
the 
> solution was simple...
> 
> So I've learnt three important thing: 
> 1. the midi out of my evolution keybord sucks
> 2. never send sysex with a sucking midi out
> 3. never send sysex before doing a back-up
> 
> Now I've solved the problem the upload those rob papen banks, but 
as 
> you know I have a new one: my sequences are corrupted and my xl-7 
> doesn't work properly. So I will back up everything and then reset 
> the machine. How can I reset it? I haven't found this anywhere in 
the 
> manual.
> 
> thx
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
wrote:
> >
> > If you think your global options are set to strange values, 
reset 
> them
> > by simply restoring the factory multisetup (#63).  Remember that 
if 
> you
> > don't have sequence data on a track (i.e. a note or controller or
> > something) it won't save the preset for that channel.  That's by 
> design
> > (though a choice I regret considering how many people it's 
> confused).
> > 
> > -Aaron
> > 
> > PS. compacting memory will never fix anything.  It's only to 
> defragment
> > memory before going out live so that compaction doesn't run
> > automatically while you're in the middle of your set.  If it 
says it
> > doesn't need it, it really doesn't.
> > 
> > --- gonzinigonz <gonzini@f...> wrote:
> > 
> > > ooops yes your right Chris, bit less hectic than starting 
again..
> > > 
> > > >Sure I have to buy a midi interface to back up things!
> > > cool, you wont regret it
> > > 
> > > >since now I haven't do back up, and I will never try again to 
> send
> > > >sysex without doing back up before!
> > > always..
> > > 
> > > >now the question is: do you think that a reset would give me 
> back my
> > > >xl-7 as before, or memory has became phisically corrupted?
> > > Well you will lose your sound banks as i dont think theres a 
> level of
> > > reset that will leave them intact.
> > > The other level of reset will leave the user pattern data 
> untouched,
> > > but if this is were the problem is then you wont have much 
choice.
> > > As long as the unit dosent have other hardware problems a reset
> > > should get things back to a clean slate.
> > > You will have to reload sound bank data though.. think the 
> presets 
> > > get copied over to the user banks when you reset.
> > > Also if you do the whole memory reset the pattern data will 
have 
> to 
> > > be loaded back as well. Seeing that your having problems with 
> this.. 
> > > Id get a midi interface before doing anything and atempt to 
back 
> up 
> > > whats there. If the problem reappears after a successful 
reload 
> then 
> > > theres yopur problem. you might be able to track it down to 1 
> rogue 
> > > patten or sound patch (more likely to be a pattern in that 
case..)
> > > Ive come accross this of problem before with other gear 
(akai..)
> > > Hopefully its a problem like Chris has mentioned
> > > be carefull eh
> > > Gonz
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <cdh79@g...> wrote:
> > > > check if you have disabled the midi-channel..
> > > >  
> > > > the patter loads up with a program change command, so if you 
> have 
> > > midi
> > > > disabled for this track (i.e. when using an external synth 
in 
> > > another
> > > > song and not changing it back) it might happen that the 
right 
> > > pattern is
> > > > not loaded.. 
> > > >  
> > > > try enabling all midi channels, then press the stop button 3 
> times 
> > > to
> > > > reset the pattern (or simply change the pattern and go back 
to 
> it 
> > > again)
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: xl7@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xl7@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of
> > > > eriksatie01
> > > > Sent: Samstag, 1. Oktober 2005 22:02
> > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [xl7] Re: (not installed) ???? please help!!!!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sure I have to buy a midi interface to back up things!
> > > > since now I haven't do back up, and I will never try again 
to 
> send
> > > > sysex without doing back up before!
> > > > now the question is: do you think that a reset would give me 
> back
> > > my
> > > > xl-7 as before, or memory has became phisically corrupted?
> > > > 
> > > > thx
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...> 
wrote:
> > > > > Its possible that the internal memory has been corupted 
> whilst 
> > > trying 
> > > > > to send sysex to it, seeing that you've had so hassle 
trying 
> to 
> > > get 
> > > > > it to work. (command station timming out and stuff)
> > > > > Have you backed up your patterns via E-Loader?
> > > > > As you dont seem to have a midi in on your PC i guess you 
> havant 
> > > been 
> > > > > able to back up your sound banks?
> > > > > It would of been good if you could of done this before 
things 
> > > went 
> > > > > bad, as now it looks like you might have to reset the 
machine.
> > > > > I think thats what you might have to do if its playing 
around 
> > > with 
> > > > > you.
> > > > > Also you need to get a proper midi interface for your PC 
as 
> you 
> > > have 
> > > > > to back up data. Its a computer and not the most reliable 
one 
> at 
> > > > > that..
> > > > > Maybe someone else here has a better idea?
> > > > > Gonz
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01" <waveplayer@t...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > alredy tried...
> > > > > > it tells me that there's no need to do it and it doesn't 
do 
> > > > > nothing...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > please doctor, tell me... is it serious?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > holy shit. whats whole defragmenting thing the command 
> > > station 
> > > > > can do? 
> > > > > > > maybe that will help. maybe you should wait for a 
better 
> > > opinion.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01" 
> <waveplayer@t...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > what's happening here?
> > > > > > > > today I turned on my xl-7 and many of may patterns 
was 
> > > > > corrupted. may
> > > > > > > > traks are not correctly assigned to its preset. 
Insted 
> of 
> > > the 
> > > > > name af
> > > > > > > > the right preset,a message says (not installed).
> > > > > > > > Moreover, if I re-assign the right preset to the 
track, 
> and
> > > 
> > > > > then save
> > > > > > > > it again, this assignement go lost when I recall the 
> > > pattern!!
> > > > > > > > I've tried to save the preset to another location, 
to 
> save 
> > > the 
> > > > > patter
> > > > > > > > to another location, to move the track to another 
track 
> > > number 
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > > success.
> > > > > > > > plese help me, I fear that all those tries with 
sysex 
> > > uploading 
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > > caused some damage to my machine and to my work!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > davide
> > 
> > 
> > 
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