Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

the fact is that my evolution keyboard (that is also my midi 
interface) only has a midi out, so I cannot record midi flow on my 
computer, and I cannot do some usefull test like dump sysex from my 
xl-7 to pc and back. 
but I still have several things to check. hope this evening I will 
find some time to try.
surely I will keep you informed about it!
thx

davide


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> Hope you can get it resolved. BTW do you have an "old-fashioned" 
> sound card with a joystick port in your system? If so, perhaps you 
> could use it (with a midi/joystick cable which are dirt cheap now.
> 
> Sysex and midi were pretty straight forward pre-windows, and while 
> Windows makes everything else possible, there is so much overhead 
> that G-d knows what's happening to the byte-by-byte midi stream.
> 
> Anyhow, it sounds like you need to do some serious diagnosis, 
> starting with the simplest possible midi flow and the simplest 
> possible tests. (eg, get a setup so you can send one preset to the 
> computer and receive one preset from the computer.)
> 
> To test sending and receiving you could try midi-ox or even e-
> loader's midi monitor. In fact, try it with patterns and e-loader.  
> Can you successfully get the names of a bank of patterns?  If so, 
> sysex is working. If not, you've got a problem from the get go.  
Can 
> you download and upload patterns in e-loader? If you can, sysex is 
> working. If not, you gotta work on the basics.
> 
> In using e-loader, when you scan for midi devices, does the e-mu 
> show up (using the midi connection, not the usb host connection]?
> 
> Of course, if the windows media player thing will work off the bat, 
> or if trying a different interface will work, great!!!
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> Hmmmm. Just an afterthought--try some different cables.  Every so 
> often I've gotten a cable that seems to work at least 99% of the 
> time, but is 1% defective for some reason. 
>  
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01" <waveplayer@t...> wrote:
> > I have the same feeling that could be something about the midi 
> > interface. I will try to disconnect eveything off from usb.
> > but what do you mean with "send the sysex one chunk at a time 
from 
> > sounddiver"?
> > how can you send midi directly from the sounddriver? how do you 
> > divide the chunks?
> > 
> > this evening I will try also with mediaplayer, and I think I will 
> > check if there is some update for the drivers
> > 
> > thx to everybody for the help!
> > 
> > davide
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, daxe <snakefooot@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I dont know if any of this will help you, but I had a terrible 
> time 
> > getting my Ensoniq FIZMO to take an OS update through my gear and 
> > this is what I did:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I tried another midi interface..this one hooked up through 
USB.  
> > The first interface I used was through my JLCooper MSB REv2+, 
> which 
> > mangles everything sent through it.  I tried an Edirol UMX thing 
> > next.  I tried a bunch of programs but always got only a partial 
> > upload.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I had a little better luck when I removed everything else off 
> that 
> > USB bus...it got almost all the way through but the data was 
still 
> > coming too fast.  FIZMOs are notorious for chiking on too-fast 
> midi 
> > data (as well as bad voltage regulators).
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > What I finally had to do was send the sysex one chunk at a time 
> > from sounddiver.  The combo of this method, plus the USB 
interface 
> > not being 'interrupted' by other things on the same bus allowed 
me 
> to 
> > get the sysex finally uploaded.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Some devices are crankier about the integrity of the midi data 
> than 
> > some others, I guess.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps, maybe give you some ideas.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > ~snakefooot
> > > 
> > >  
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