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Re: 220 vs. 110 volts

2005-01-10 by groakes2000

I hear what you're saying.... I'll just keep it at 110v. We don't 
have problems with brownouts here - quite the opposite infact. I've 
seen close to 250v coming out of a nominally rated 240v supply....

cheers
Greg

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> wrote:
> Never mind, I see you are responding to the 80 volts idea.  These 
voltage converters are usually spec'd at +/-10% so 90 volts is the 
minimum I would go.  After that, things may fall out of regulation, 
especial with a little voltage drop (brown out) as is common in 
power systems....
> 
> Bob
> Corona/Riverside, CA
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: José Sáez 
>   To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:11 PM
>   Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: 220 vs. 110 volts
> 
> 
>   I'm not sure if i would try that test again...
> 
>   A low voltage has less probability to fry your MP7 circuits 
since the resistance diminishes as voltage goes down. However these 
are digital devices. A low voltage could change the difference 
between 0 (no current) and 1 (current). Running digital devices at 
low voltages has some funny results if you try it with a Casio SK-5; 
it adds distortion to the sound since some bits pass and some don't.
> 
>   But i wouldn't risk to do that with a machine whose O.S. is 
written in flash memory... What if you corrupt the data ? You could 
end with a machine with a flat EEG...
> 
>   Jose
> 
>   I'm NOT going to fix your computer.
>   ........
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: groakes2000 
>     To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
>     Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:04 PM
>     Subject: [xl7] Re: 220 vs. 110 volts
> 
> 
> 
>     Thanks Guys -
> 
>     I borrowed a stepdown of my father-in-law. It has a dial on it 
>     whereby you can adjust the voltage down as low as 80v. Just 
for a 
>     test, I tried running the MP7 at 80v to see what would happen. 
It 
>     took a few seconds to power on, but other than that it 
appeared that 
>     everything ran normally.....
> 
>     cheers
>     Greg
> 
> 
>     --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> wrote:
>     > Great test and work Jose...thanks for the affirmation.....
>     > 
>     > Bob
>     > Corona/Riverside, CA
>     >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>     >   From: José Sáez 
>     >   To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
>     >   Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:45 AM
>     >   Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: 220 vs. 110 volts
>     > 
>     > 
>     >   All right, i measured temperatures of the surface of the 
unit 
>     day and night after 1 hour of operation at 220 and 110V (i 
waited 
>     for the unit to cool down before taking the next measure), and 
this 
>     are the results:
>     > 
>     >   220V ---> average Tº: 36º C (96.8 F)
>     > 
>     >   110V ---> average Tº: 29.6º C (85.28 F)
>     > 
>     >   The average environment Tº has been around 80-90 Fº these 
days.
>     > 
>     >   In conclusion: even when the manual says that the XL-7 
unit can 
>     be run at 220V, it is advisable to use a stepdown voltage 
converter 
>     in order to reduce heat and add to stability and extend it's 
working 
>     life. 
>     > 
>     >   I haven't measured the Tº inside the case, but i suppose 
it 
>     could be even higher. Don't want to run the risk...
>     > 
>     >   Jose
>     > 
>     >     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     >     From: gonzinigonz 
>     >     To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
>     >     Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:08 AM
>     >     Subject: [xl7] Re: 220 vs. 110 volts
>     > 
>     > 
>     > 
>     >     Sounds like another switchmode PSU failing..
>     >     This would explain your errors that you've been having. 
It 
>     doesnt 
>     >     happen without power.
>     >     Its one of the most common faults with any electronic / 
>     electrical 
>     >     gadget, lack of correct supply voltages ie failed PSU's
>     >     I have an BSS FDS366 Omnidrive here to repair. Guess 
what 
>     failed 
>     >     swithmode! Sometimes it will start up and be fine. Other 
times 
>     you 
>     >     have to repeatedly turn it on/off to get it to fire up.
>     >     This fault is with the start up circuitry..
>     >     Anyway id start looking for a replacement PSU for it, 
there 
>     has been 
>     >     talk of this on the list..
>     >     Im sure another type of switchmode could be fitted, 
>     voltage's / 
>     >     size / shape permitting. I dont think these command 
stations 
>     are to 
>     >     strange in the PSU department 
>     >     I run my XL-7 via a 110v transformer now, the PSU gets 
far to 
>     hot for 
>     >     my liking on 240v ;o)
>     >     Regards
>     >     Gonz
>     > 
>     > 
>     > 
>     > 
>     >     #--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "groakes2000" 
<groakes@i...> 
>     wrote:
>     >     > 
>     >     > On another note, my continuing problem with Fatal 
Errors has 
>     been 
>     >     > somewhat ameliorated by using a stepdown transformer 
running 
>     at 
>     >     > 110v. Time between failures now stretches out to over 
5 
>     hours.... 
>     >     > Which reinforces the thought that maybe my problem is 
>     related to a 
>     >     > heat related failure of a component whose tolerances 
are 
>     >     > rather "fine"....
>     >     > 
>     >     > cheers
>     >     > Greg
>     > 
>     > 
>     > 
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