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Re: worthless MP-7

2001-09-09 by dubtribe@imperialdub.com

--- In xl7@y..., "Aaron Eppolito" <aarone+xl7@e...> wrote:
> The sequencer is trying to be smart and not send program changes it
doesn't
> need to.  Basically, if the preset on channel 1 for example is
already the
> same as what the program change would set it to, it doesn't send it.
> Obviously, the XL-7 doesn't know what your external gear is doing,
so it
> assumes that your external gear is set to the same thing as your
internal
> channels.
> 
> There is a way to "fake it out" however.  For the tracks you want
external
> program changes, you can set the track to "ext" instead of "both"
in the
> second to last screen in the pattern edit menu.  Then, make sure
that
> internal channel is on some other program than you're trying to send
> externally.  This should make the XL-7 see the program change as
different
> from what's already on that channel.  Then when it does send the
program
> change, since it's not changing the internal channels, it will
always be
> different.
> 
> If that doesn't work (which it should if done correctly) try
recording (from
> external midi) or inserting in your cubase source file 2 different
program
> changes back to back (i.e. 12 then 13), where the second one (13)
is really
> the one you want.  This forces the second program change to be
different,
> thus always sending it.  That way you can use the "both" routing if
you need
> to.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
>  On Saturday, September 1, 2001, at 08:48 AM, deephousesouldier@y...
>  wrote:
> 
> > the implemation chart reads 0-32-pc(0-127) for BC's
> > and PC's.  I have that in my sequnce and it just won't send it
> > externally. everything is enabled. JUNK until proven wrong or
> > stupid

Guys,

This is all very fine in theory, but it seems that there are some 
problems with the SMF format of the XL/MP.

try this experiment:

create a sequence in a computer based sequencer. be sure and create 
program changes.

export it as an SMF.

download it to the XL/MP

now watch your program changes go totally out to lunch. some are 
correct, others and missing and others are totally wrong.

makes no sense.

so now upload this sequnce to your computer.

look at it along side the original.

there are added files:

an Emu Macro
some midi mixer settings you have not added
and there are your PC and BC's only they are wrong, AND there are no 
BC's any more. the instruction is present, but the actual bank number 
is missing.

i admire Emu's thoughtfullness about not sending a PC everytime the 
pattern loops. this is VERY handy for live manipulation of sounds. 
still, there has to be a way to translate in both directions with the 
device.

try this test, and please let me know how you made out.

at the moment i am creating my SMF's in Logic, Downloading to the
MP-7, 
and then Uploading the saved file to the Computer again, and
correcting 
them in Logic. THEN i download them one last time and they seem to
work 
fine.

ultimately i'd like to be working in MP-7 only for live sequences,
but 
it's not happening without a list editor or a way of determening 
external PC's and BC info.

DSS

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