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Re: Unisyn 2.1.1 Oddities with EMU XL-7 w/4 ROMs

2004-10-27 by lionelcassin

Thank for the quick and detailed reply. To answer some of your 
questions...

1. At this moment, I do not use a computer-based sequencer. The only 
sequencer I plan to use is the XL-7's, primarily in a beatbox 
function.

2. The job in front of me is to winnow the 2,000 ROM patches in the 
XL-7 down to a manageable set of favorites which will go into the 
User banks. So I am focused on patch librarian functions right now, 
and not on editing. Although that may change.

So it seems we share the basic philosophy - since you cannot access 
all the ROM slots at once, get the patches you want into the User 
banks and work from there.

Also, I found out that the crashing in issue 2 was due to only two 
patches - one in ROM4/Bank0 and one in ROM4/Bank2. Each of these 
patches were unique in that they had both a parent and a child 
relationship. So I just carved around them and it worked out alright.

Thanks for the tips on the rechannelize and using the XL-7 profile. 
I will give them a test at the next available moment. 

Lionel
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruddah Max <bruddahmax@c...> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2004, at 2:19 PM, lionelcassin wrote:
> 
> before i start let me preface by saying i only have the Beat 
Garden 
> added to my XL-7, but i've had 4 ROMs before, so i've experienced 
some 
> of these...
> 
> > Issue 1:
> > In the Devices window under the XL-7, only the User, ROM1 and 
ROM2
> > banks of presets are listed. ROM3 and ROM4 are not listed.
> >
> > BUT if I go to the Unisyn menu bar and choose Devices > XL-7, I 
see
> > a huge list which lists all 4 ROMS and User. Additionally, it 
lists
> > 8 banks under each(!). Of course, trying to retrieve banks 4 - 7
> > under any of these just generates a "bad MIDI header" message.
> > So, in the devices window, ROMs 3 and 4 are not listed, although
> > correctly identified in the hardware config record. In the 
Devices
> > menu, these ROMs are correctly listed with all their presets.
> 
> use the actual XL-7 profile. it has the same glitch but will work 
more 
> smoothly overall. there are subtle differences between the Command 
> Stations and the P2K modules.
> 
> Unisyn also only shows two ROMs on my system for direct editing, 
but 
> since you can't actually edit the ROMs anyway (just the user 
presets), 
> just copy the patch to a user preset location, "get selected" from 
that 
> location, and edit away in Unisyn.
> 
> > Issue 2:
> > If I retrieve ROM 4, Bank 0 or ROM 4, Bank 2 from the Devices 
menu
> > and then try to save that preset listing in a new document, 
Unisyn
> > crashes. I also tried selecting all, copying and then pasting 
into a
> > new blank document. Unisyn crashes as soon as I try to copy. 
This is
> > a reproducible error. Banks 1 and 3 save fine, as did all banks 
on
> > ROM 3.
> 
> you're right, it doesn't work properly. so - don't do this. copy 
the 
> bank from the ROM into a user bank. download the user bank into 
Unisyn 
> and save. same result, and no crashing. you'll only need to do it 
once. 
> :D
> 
> > Issue 3:
> > Every time I select a preset and send to any location (e.g., 
Preset
> > on C07A), the preset gets sent just fine, but that MIDI channel 
gets
> > disabled. So if I send "Bandvoxxe" to Preset on C07A, Bandvoxxe 
does
> > get sent just fine, but then MIDI Channel 7 In gets disabled, so 
I
> > have to go to the MIDI menu on the XL-7 and re-enable the 
channel.
> > Once I do that, I can play the preset just dandy. But if I send
> > another preset, the exact same thing will happen again, 
regardless
> > of the destination.
> 
> by C07A i'm guessing you mean Channel 7A. do you have rechannelize 
to 
> track turned on? i've found most MIDI apps (DP4 and Unisyn 
included) 
> and the XL-7 get weird with MIDI when rechannelize is on - i only 
turn 
> it on when i've got the XL-7 as my "sequencing hub" controlling 
> everything else. when working with the computer, rechannelize is 
off.
> 
> i'm curious what sequencing app you use - if it is DP4, stop 
worrying 
> about directly editing the expansion boards (load sounds into user 
> presets to edit them) and use the Expansion Board Setup program 
that 
> came with DP to enable the expansion boards you have installed in 
the 
> XML patchlists.
> --
> Bruddah Max
> Lord of the Dance

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