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Re: Sad MIDI connection question.

2002-01-29 by ezra_gold

I too have have had a lot of trouble with USB MIDI interfaces. When I 
set up my current computer (Athalon 750) I got a MidiSport 4x4 usb 
interface. I could not get the audio and the MIDI to sync. I thought 
is was the soundcard for a long time.  After hearing about other folks 
with the same problem I picked up a parallel port interface and things 
have been much better.

I think the problem is that win98 (and possibly others) dont handle 
the USB ports in a timing sensitive way. I am under the impression 
that things are better with later versions of windows, sequencers, 
drivers and what-not but I am set up for the moment. Heck, it only 
took me 10 years to upgrade from my last system.

Ezra

--- In xl7@y..., gary saville <ocylate@s...> wrote:
> USB = Shitty Sound
> 
> I've had tons of trouble using a usb sound card (roland u-8). I'm 
borrowing a pcmcia layla to do a mixdown at the moment. because the u8 
drops midi sync constantly..
> I don't believe there is enouph throughput to use midi and full 
duplex sound.
> 
> Gary
> ocylate@s...
> www.fatbeatsinc.com
> www.heilo.com
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Panzare 
>   To: xl7@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:33 PM
>   Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Sad MIDI connection question.
> 
> 
>   M2, 
> 
>   Another question, this time about sound cards. I need to find a 
different sound card than
>   the AWE64 I'm using right now...it's a royal pain in the butt to 
configure with external
>   MIDI devices. I'm looking at the Delta 410, or the Audiophile 2496 
or the new Sound 
>   Blaster Extigy which is an external module that can be connected 
to a standard laptop
>   or PC via a USB interface. It's got built-in MIDI-IN/OUT 
connectors, SPDIF In/Out plus 
>   alot more. Its about the same price as the Audiophile 410 and 
2496. Have you heard
>   anything about any of these cards? Good or Bad?
> 
>   Thanks,
> 
>   jp 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: emufreak1 [mailto:mmcquay@m...]
>     Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:03 PM
>     To: xl7@y...
>     Subject: [xl7] Re: Sad MIDI connection question.
> 
> 
>     jp,
> 
>     Glad to help.
> 
>     The units are identical less the ribbon and drum pads on the 
2500, 
>     oh, and sound set of course.  You had mentioned that you really 
>     wanted the XL-7.  Why did you go with the 2500 instead?  As far 
as 
>     advantages, it really depends on the music you like.  I like all 
>     styles so it's really up to you.  Do you have a good keyboard 
>     controller?  If you do then I'd say use the expansion slots(you 
have 
>     3 open)and get the X-LEAD ROM # 9089 and use your controller 
keys.  
>     The 2500 is nice but my only gripe is that I wish it had more 
than 
>     the 3 extra expansion slots.  Right now I have this E-MU gear:
> 
>     P2K w/Techno Synth Construction Yard & Beat Garden ROM's by Rob 
Papen
>     (giving me the standard Proteus and Orbit 3 in one module)
> 
>     XL-1 standard w/Pure Phatt ROM
>     (giving me the XL-1 and Mo'Phatt in one module)
> 
>     Launch Pad midi controller
> 
>     If the 2500 had six slots, I would sell these and put everything 
in 
>     one and gain the sequencer(right now I use a hardware 
sequencer).
> 
>     Let me know what you decide to do and if there is anything else 
we 
>     can do to help.  You can e-mail me privately.
> 
>     Later,
> 
>     M2
> 
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3
> 
> 
>     --- In xl7@y..., "Panzare" <panzare@m...> wrote:
>     > Thanks M2 for the reply, claiming ignorance here, I'll take 
your 
>     input as
>     > more credible than
>     > the place I bought the Proteus 2500 from. I've been out of the 
>     recording
>     > hobby for some
>     > time and I just bought the Proteus 2500 as an alternative to 
the 
>     XL7, which
>     > is what I really
>     > wanted. It makes sense that the sounds won't be the same 
unless the 
>     ROM is
>     > also available
>     > in the 2500. What the CD does have are all of the song and 
pattern 
>     files
>     > (the .MID files) for
>     > the MP7 and the XL7, but thats all.
>     > 
>     > Based on your opinion, do you think there's any advantage the 
2500 
>     has over
>     > the XL7 or
>     > MP7? The reason I ask is because I've considered returning the 
2500 
>     in
>     > exchange for
>     > a XL7 after doing some more research and after reading your 
reply.
>     > Your opinion would be helpful,
>     > 
>     > Thanks,
>     > 
>     > jp-
>     >   -----Original Message-----
>     >   From: emufreak1 [mailto:mmcquay@m...]
>     >   Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:19 PM
>     >   To: xl7@y...
>     >   Subject: [xl7] Re: Sad MIDI connection question.
>     > 
>     > 
>     >   jp,
>     > 
>     >   Without the ROM's from the XL-7(X-LEAD#9089)and the 
MP-7(Pure
>     >   Phatt#9062)in your 2500, the sounds you are trying to 
download 
>     will
>     >   NOT work.  The presets are directed to pull information from 
the 
>     ROM
>     >   itself.
>     > 
>     >   M2
>     > 
>     >   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3
>     > 
>     > 
>     >   --- In xl7@y..., "bakura69" <panzare@m...> wrote:
>     >   > Ok, I'm not the person who asked the original question,
>     >   > however, I have having a similar problem. I tried numerous
>     >   > different ways of getting the MIDI interface to connect
>     >   > properly from my Proteus 2500(which is the basically the
>     >   > same as the MP7 and the XL7 without the keypad), and I
>     >   > haven't had any success with the E-Loader either, sucks
>     >   > too because supposedly with the 2500 I can load all of
>     >   > the factory preset songs and patterns for both the XL7
>     >   > and the MP7 via the E-Loader.
>     >   >
>     >   > I'm using Windows 2000 ServPak2, with a Creative Labs
>     >   > AWE64 Sound Card. I loaded the Microsoft Java Runtime
>     >   > Engine and that didn't seem to work. Haven't tried the
>     >   > Sun version thats on the CD yet, which is a recommended
>     >   > alternative in the FAQ's posted in files in this users
>     >   > group. I'm going to try that next. But, any other
>     >   > suggestions would be helpful.
>     >   >
>     >   > Thanks,
>     >   >
>     >   > jp
>     > 
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