Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I have been using the mp-7 and 2500 for sequencing but I am planning 
to move to computer for that to add more variation to loops. I have 
read so many fhorror stories on having problems with new versions of 
dp and osx. I am new to the mac platform and want to work with 
something that is already stable. It did seem to have alot of midi 
features that I did not see on PT, but I have not tried to do any 
midi with either. What about audio functions? It is so much quicker 
and more intuitive for me in the pro tools environment. Just the 
simples audio editing seem slow in DP and just does not make alot of 
sense to me. I would hate to try to do a stutter. Maybe I just need 
to learn the shortcuts. I have played with cubase and logic as well, 
but they were difficult for me as well. I just did simple recording 
and audio sequencing. Do you have an extra copy of your old 2.xx 
manual you want to get rid of? I do not have net or a printer at 
home and it would be a small fortune to print on campus. I would 
like to just purchase a print version. I posted a request on the DP 
group but alas no response. Anyway I will keep working with it and 
possibly use protools for audio. 
   Thanks for your input. If you know where I could get a good DP 
tutorial please post a link.
          Tom


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "wildstar_1701" <justinsamaha@y...> 
wrote:
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dj 61" <dj61@d...> wrote:
> > Ah, a DP user. I have spent the last few weeks trying to work 
with 
> > DP. I think I'm going to loose my sound card and go w/protools. 
DP 
> > just doesn't seem to make sense to me. How do you like it? (ver
> 2.72)
> >   Tom
> > 
> 
> are you nuts?! ditch DP for PT? stop the madness!
> 
> seriously though, do you like to do a lot of sequencing with your
> computer? 
> (as opposed to your XX-7) because MIDI editing and sequencing with
> Pro 
> Tools sucks. truly, profoundly sucks. PT excels at certain things,
> but MIDI it 
> ain't. i use PT 6.1.2 with a Digi 002 Rack system for certain 
things,
> but never, 
> ever MIDI.
> 
> no disrespect intended towards anyone who does like PT for MIDI,
> because 
> i'm sure there are many serious dudes on this board who do serious
> stuff with 
> PT. i tip my hat to them.
> 
> but you asked, so i'm answering, based on my own humble opinion. 
and
> this 
> reply assumes you intend to do real sequencing with your DAW. i use
> DP 4.1 
> on OS 10, but spent a few years on 2.7-3.2 in OS9 first. the first
> thing you 
> should do is switch to OS10and upgrade to 4.1. the difference is
> amazing. but 
> if you can't do that, at least upgrade to 3.2 for OS9. the jump
> between 2.XX 
> and 3 is also pretty damn cool.
> 
> when it comes to MIDI sequencing with software, nothing, and i mean
> nothing, 
> beats the Big Three: DP, Cubase, and Logic. kinda like Lexus,
> Infinity, and 
> Acura. to each his own, but everyone knows those are the best. i
> prefer DP 
> because i do a lot of film scoring, and it has a lot of features 
just
> for folks like 
> me.
> 
> just as an example of why DP rules: have you tried <compressing> 
your
> on-
> velocity information with its "change velocity" tool? i mean come 
on!
> that is the 
> coolest shit ever! you can set ratio, make-up gain...  or how about
> drawing in a 
> nice logarithmic MIDI volume fade-in fade with the Pencil tool.
> 
> Pro Tools LE does not do these things. and it does not do a lot of
> other 
> important stuff. Pro Tools LE is essentially designed to leave out
> certain 
> features to make you want an HD system, which costs $10,000 or so.
> i'm 
> assuming you're talking about a $400 - $2000 LE system.
> 
>  the Big Three are designed to be native-system answers to HD, TDM,
> and 
> what-have-you. they are big players. they are deep. stick with DP,
> get through 
> the learning curve, and you'll be glad you did. and MOTU's DP 
manual
> is 
> great - i've read it cover to cover several times.
> 
> good luck with it!