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Re: Track Destination and MIDI on off. Controlling external gear.

2004-03-18 by frodo76at

Rehi !

The problem is that I want to use the factory patterns (on MIDI 1-16 
A) AND play external hardware with my keyboard through the XL-7. (I 
have to go through the XL-7 because I need the MIDI clock signal of 
the XL-7 for the tempo sync.)
My question: Can I route "MIDI In - B" to "MIDI Out A and/or B".
And if not ... Why ? I can do it with MIDI IN set to A, so ... 
what's the difference and why's there a difference ?
I cannot find any reference to this in the manual.
When I go through it it seems that MIDI IN A can behave just like 
MIDI IN B. There are no exceptions I'm aware of.
Is "MIDI IN - B" only meant for internal MIDI B sounds ?
If so this means that MIDI B would be the best place for factory XL-
7 sounds, since MIDI A is more flexible in routing the signal. 
(internal and external)
This really gives me a headache.

Just to be a little more confusing ;)

Ronald

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> Wow, you almost confused me.
> 
> There's two ways to do what you're asking; it depends on what you 
want.
> 
> Method 1: (recommended)
> Use this if you want your external keyboard to play the appropriate
> sound for the track you're working on.
> 
> Rechannelize ON, Merge MIDI A:OFF B:OFF, MIDI In Channels A, and...
> for each track, setup its destination in the 2nd to last screen in 
the
> pattern edit menu (i.e. should it play internally, externally, or
> both).
> 
> Now, as you switch tracks on the XL-7, notes played from your kybd 
(or
> pads) will always play the same sound as they will when you record 
that
> track and play it back.
> 
> Method 2:
> Use this if you want your external synth to always sound in 
response to
> notes played on the keyboard, regardless of what track you're on.
> 
> Rechannelize OFF, Merge MIDI A:OFF B:ON (hook ext synth up to B), 
MIDI
> In channels A.
> 
> Note however, that with method 2, notes from your external kybd 
will
> ALWAYS play both the internal A synth channels as well as play your
> external synth.  This is probably not what you want, but maybe it 
is.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- frodo76at <frodo@c...> wrote:
> > Well, if it helps ... I'm confused now too :P
> > After reading this rechannelize thing I think it might be the 
clou 
> > to my MIDI IN to MIDI OUT problem.
> > I want to control external MIDI gear from my keyboard wich sends 
its 
> > data trough the XL-7, because I want to record/play the XL-7 
with it 
> > AND have to use it for the other gear as well.
> > So it goes like this:
> > Keyboard -> (MIDI In set to B) XL-7 (MIDI OUT B) -> external 
> > sequencers (synced to the XL-7)
> > The keyboard plays the XL-7 and (should play) the external 
> > sequencers.
> > The problem is that if I set the MIDI IN to B, I cannot route 
> > incoming MIDI data to any of the MIDI Outs.
> > I could solve the problem when selecting MIDI IN A, but then I 
not 
> > only play the external, but also the internal XL-7 sounds when 
using 
> > the factory patterns (because they are all on MIDI A).
> > When I turn off the MIDI A channels I cannot play back the 
patterns, 
> > so I would have to rearrange all factory presets to be played 
via 
> > MIDI B :/
> > 
> > So, is there an elegant way of solving this problem ?
> > 
> > Any help is appreciated !
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> 
wrote:
> > > Do tell! (if you can)
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: Aaron Eppolito 
> > >   To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
> > >   Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:27 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Track Destination and MIDI on off. 
> > Controlling external gear.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Nah, it's not just you.  That's why I ended up making those 
> > digrams,
> > >   because it is so confusing.  There's a more elegant 
solution, 
> > but alas,
> > >   we ran out of time to implement it.  It's still my pet 
feature
> > >   though...
> > > 
> > >   -Aaron
> > > 
> > >   --- drewaight <drewaight@y...> wrote:
> > >   > I kind of hope that other people are confused by this too 
> > because if 
> > >   > I was the only one Id feel stupid.
> > > 
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