Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I know I can nomralize. I know the digital signal is better and has 
headroom. But I also know that E-mu knows it's a "bug" in the xx-7.

As I mi the S/PDIF with other signals (analog, VSTi, analog out of 
the XL etc.), I have to turn all other signals down, because of the 
weak signal of the E-mu... and that's not the way it should be.

It's a nice explanation... but it's not everyone's reality.



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "vibesart" <edmann@p...> wrote:
> This subject has been discussed quite a bit - and those who know
> (Aaron et al) say the S/PDIF signal is 20 bits. A medium-level 20-
bit
> signal is much better than a medium-level 16 bit signal, meaning 
that
> within the S/PDIF signal as it exists right now there is most likely
> 13-16 bits of actual data, which is consistant with (and above many)
> CD's. (this is my guesstimate re: the XL7, not a statement from E-
mu).
> The extra headroom in the Xl7, Proteus etc is to allow for the 
extreme
> bumps in volume that the filters (resonance) can cause. That makes
> sense and I think you will see that the filters are capable of 
extreme
> boosts in volume.
> 
> But my recommendation is: if the S/PDIF sig is bothersome - use the
> analog outs. Good D/A's on all the E-mu stuff... and hopefully you
> have a good A/D in your setup (if you don't, you should.). You can 
> also just record the digital sig as-is and (as Aaron mentioned) -
> Normalize, but I assume that you know that.
> 
> Bottom line: don't let this interupt your creative flow - get on 
with
> the music!
> 
> happy toning,
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > AAArrrrgggghhhh!!!! 
> > 
> > I have tried to reach them by phone since I've posted the 
message. 
> > Several times a day. Everytime I get the voicemail of Monica. 
> > 
> > Damn Creative!
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info!
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mike-E <d_jumpmaster@y...>
> > > 02/19/2004 05:40 AM
> > > Please respond to xl7
> > > 
> > >  
> > >         To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > >         cc: 
> > >         Subject:        [xl7] Weak S/PDIF output, known but non 
> > supported issue????
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello list,
> > > 
> > > I just talked to Ruud van der Matte who works for Creative/E-mu
> in 
> > > The Netherlands. I called him about the weak audio coming from
> the 
> > > S/PDIF output compared to the signal coming form the analog 
main 
> > > output.
> > > 
> > > The manual sais this is an exact copy from the main output. Well
> my 
> > > ears and a level meter say it's almost half the Db's in volume.
> So, 
> > > it's a problem with the S/PDIF implementation the E-mu.
> > > 
> > > Ruud just talled me that he spoke to David Andersson from 
> > Creative/E-
> > > mu in Dublin, and he talled him that it's a known issue BUT the 
> > > wan't do anything to fix it!
> > > 
> > > I just called Creative/E-mu to speek to David Andersson myself,
> but 
> > > I could not reach them. I got the voicemail of Monica and asked
> if 
> > > the could call me back on this issue. 
> > > 
> > > Besides that Ruud van der Matte tolled me that the problem with 
a 
> > > disturbed S/PDIF output (grounding) was also a known issue. The 
> > last 
> > > machines that were released, have a workaround implemented. 
> > > 
> > > There were small copper plates placed between the top and 
bottom 
> > > cover, so both parts make better contact. That solved the 
problem 
> > on 
> > > the disturbed signal but not the weakness of the audio.
> > > 
> > > I thought you should all know this.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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