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Re: Very odd problem... driving me insane!

2003-11-10 by mercurysbane

Hey all,

A quick addendum to my situation:

I did a quick search here for suggestions about sync to DAW's.  
Nearly everyone suggested setting the xx-7's tempo to ext.  So I gave 
it another shot, and this time I turned on the metronome on my DAW 
(cubase sx), so I could track how well it did.  It was just over a 
minute before the drift was more than I could bear to listen to.  
Help would be much appreciated from u oldschool pros!  ;)

-Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mercurysbane" <leadguitar@h...> wrote:
> Hey Ed - 
> Thanks for the suggestion!  It seemed like a very sensible idea to 
> me.  So I gave it a shot - just for this one track.  When the track 
> was playing from my DAW, it sounded perfect - exactly how I wanted 
it 
> to sound.  So I recorded track 15 in my DAW, then recorded it onto 
my 
> MP-7 simply by hitting record on the MP-7 while it was playing.  
> Everything was synced correctly and sounded OK, but again, it's not 
> registering when I have let off of a key.  All notes are sustained 
on 
> track 15 indefinitely!  It's terribly bothersome.
> 
> Then I had a new idea.  I got the pattern that I'm using onto my 
> computer using E-Loader, then I put track 15 in that midi file 
using 
> my DAW.  Then I downloaded that new midi file onto my mp7 using 
> Eloader again.  Same problem.  Interesting thing I've noticed about 
> it though: if I hit Edit-Pattern then change Track 15's channel 
> assign to 16A, the problem goes away!  Fricken odd...
> 
> But I also have another problem.  I have things set up (using 
Cubase 
> SX) so that when I hit play in Cubase, it makes the current pattern 
> on my mp7 play with Cubase.  I have the Cubase and mp7 tempo's set 
to 
> the same thing.  Eventually, though, the sync between the two drift 
> apart!  I've tried to sync the two sequencers using a couple of 
> different methods, but nothing seems to work.  I've set the mp7's 
> tempo to 0, and I've tried to set up midi sync in Cubase.  In the 
> Midi Sync Setup Dialogue box, I've selected: Timecode Source-"Midi 
> Timecode" Machine Control-"None", and I've selected appropriate 
midi 
> in/outs.  If I try to select "Midi Machine Control" for the Machine 
> Control option, then it won't start when I hit play.
> 
> This is really more bothersome than my other problem.  Maybe I 
should 
> post it in a different message.
> 
> Any ideas for my problems?  Any and all help would be appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "vibesart" <vibesart@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Steve -
> > 
> > Not quite sure if I understand exactly what you are saying - but 
in
> > general I recommend getting all your MIDI trax together in the DAW
> > sequencer including all controller data - and then when they are 
as
> > you want them - record them individually straight into the  MP-7.
> > 
> > hope that helps
> > 
> > and good luck
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mercurysbane" <leadguitar@h...> 
wrote:
> > > Hey Everybody,
> > > 
> > > I'm not really a regular here, but I do check in every once in 
> > > awhile.  I've been having this really weird problem, which I'm 
> > > *pretty* sure is related to my MP-7, but I'm not exactly sure.  
> Let 
> > > me describe it to you folks, maybe you can figure out what's 
> going 
> > > wrong!
> > > 
> > > I'm using an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe motherboard with an Ahtlon XP 
> 2600+ 
> > > chip with 300mhz FSB.  512 megs of RAM, WD Caviar 8mb Cache 
120gb 
> HD, 
> > > and an M-Audio Delta 10/10lt soundcard.
> > > Recently, I've been trying to learn how to use Cubase SX with 
> Reason 
> > > (utilizing Rewire, of course).  I have the delta's midi in/out 
> hooked 
> > > up to my MP-7, and my MOBO's onboard MIDI connector (joystick 
> port) 
> > > to connect to my keyboard.  I've been trying to play things on 
> the 
> > > keyboard and have them be recorded on the MP7.  This worked 
fine 
> for 
> > > the first track I recorded, Track 16 (I already have some drums 
> > > recorded on 1-8).  I did this by using Cubase's midi thru 
> function, 
> > > essentially creating a midi track with my keyboard as the input 
> and 
> > > mp7 as output.  But then I have tried a couple of times to 
record 
> > > another track (Track 15), and something goes wrong.  For some 
> reason, 
> > > the mp7 records the notes I play, but doesn't register key-
offs!  
> > > That is, it's as though I have a sustain pedal pushed down for 
my 
> > > entire track 15.  To verify this, in Cubase, I created a midi 
> track 
> > > with the mp7 track 15 as input, and a reason synth as output.  
> When I 
> > > hit the keys on my mp7, they triggered the note, but again, 
when 
> I 
> > > let OFF the key, the note didn't turn off!  And if that wasn't 
> weird 
> > > enough, I started trying all the different keys in different 
> octaves, 
> > > and SOME keys behaved correctly, although MOST keys did NOT!  
Out 
> of 
> > > curiousity, I started testing the other tracks on my mp7, and 
> they 
> > > were all similar!  Some keys worked properly, some did not.  No 
> > > correlation that I could tell between tracks or octaves.
> > > 
> > > Other than that, my MP7 has always worked perfectly.  I swear 
> it's 
> > > the best investment I've ever made!  But this problem is weird 
> and I 
> > > have no idea what to do...  it's prolly some stupid midi thing 
> that 
> > > I'd never think of!  ArggghHhH!
> > > 
> > > All help is greatly appreciated!  Thanks VERY much!
> > > 
> > > -Steve

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