since I am still in the throes of trying to make my live thing work for me, I much appreciate the details you give here! dana --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > Hey all, some one on the 505 list asked about how I set up my live sets, > here's a copy of my reply. Thought it might be interesting for a few > people, so I posted it here too: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > I know how hard it is to set up a Live PA, and how helpful it can be to > read other people's methods, so here's mine: > > The XL-7 is the main device, 95% of the tweaking and playing I'm doing > during my sets are on that machine. The SP808 really is only functioning > as a sample playback unit, and occasionally as an effects device for those > samples too. It's not even synced via MIDI except to provide MIDI clock > information for the effects. As this is largely a hit and miss affair in > terms of the effects actually syncing to the XL-7's tempo properly, I may > not even bother with that MIDI cable in the future. > > Tracks 1-7 on the XL-7 are my main percussion parts, BD's, snare's HH's, > and other drum stuff. Track 8 is set up to Trigger samples on the SP808 > (more on this in a bit), and tracks 9-16 are my instrumental tracks. The > key here is that every Track has the same type of instrument for all of my > XL-7 Patterns. This makes it very easy to know what each track is playing > while doing the live thing, and it also means I can switch to pretty much > any Pattern and know how it's going to be laid out. > > All of my XL-7 Patterns are 8 measures long, I've tried other lengths, but > this one seems to work the best for me. If I make them shorter, I don't > get to program that much variety into each one. If I make them longer I > can add more variety, but it makes switching Patterns that much more > difficult for me. I may set up for this really dramatic Pattern change, > only to find out it still has 8 (or 12, 16, etc) more measures to go > before the switch. Then I'm just sitting there waiting, not much fun. > > In addition to the 16 sequenced tracks available in each Pattern, I also > set up custom Triggers in my XL-7 too. These are basically like the RPS > function on the 505's, I have 16 of them that can be Triggered at any time > during the set, regardless of what Pattern I'm playing. Most of these are > simple arpeggiated ethnic and tribal drum sounds, though a few are snare > and HH based too. These allow me to drop in different percussive elements > during the set, which serve two purposes: > > 1. They allow me to give the entire set more of a cohesive feel. Since I > use a lot of the Triggers more than once in the set, they add a subtle > background element that helps give the whole thing sort of the same feel. > > 2. They help me maintain some semblance of continuity while switching > Patterns. Because my Triggers are independent of the Pattern being > played, I can switch Patterns and have the same percussion sounds still > being sounded. Helps to make transitions more seamless IMO. > > The SP808 has two main roles; it plays back sequenced loops and other > samples that compliment the XL-7 Patterns, and it lets me manually drop in > vocal samples when I want to. The sequenced loops were originally > constructed in Reason, using breaks I've collected or occasionally > modifying a refill here and there. Because Reason can act as a MIDI > slave, I'd set the XL-7 to be the master and create my 8 bar Patterns in > the Redrum and Dr. Rex modules. Once I was happy with how the loop was > complimenting the XL-7 patterns, I would set the L and R locators to 1 > measure, and export these as audio files. So my 8 bar Reason Pattern, > would in effect become 8 separate 1 bar audio files. The downside to this > is that the tempo of the Reason stuff can't be changed after the fact, so > you have to decide on your Pattern/set tempo ahead of time. > > At this point, I would use the 808 conversion software with an external > ZIP drive to transfer the samples to the SP808. Each SP808 sample bank > corresponds to an XL-7 Pattern, with the 8 samples forming the loop being > placed on pads 1-8. I would also place some random vocal samples on Pads > 9-16 as I saw fit. The last two songs in the set use guitar fills which I > had recorded in Cubase SX, and then imported to the SP808 on the last 8 > pads for that Sample Pad Bank. > > As mentioned earlier, Track 8 on the XL-7 controls the SP808. Because > each Pad Bank in the Sp808 can be recalled via simple program changes, I > just inserted the appropriate PC message at the beginning of each pattern > on that track. The XL-7 has a GREAT feature where events placed at Tick 0 > in the XL-7 are NOT repeated each time the pattern loops, so I didn't have > to worry about the samples reloading each time the Pattern loops. This > way, every time I change patterns, the Sp808 automatically updates to the > correct Sample Pad Bank. Then I inserted CC#7 (volume) commands to > control the volume of the Pad banks, since they varied greatly Pattern to > Pattern. > > The last step was to insert note events at the beginning of every measure > that would trigger each of the 8 loop pads sequentially. Why 8 pads for > the loop instead of just one? Because this way I can mute the drum loop > from the panel of the XL-7, without having to wait until the pattern loops > around again before it starts playing again. The most I have to wait now > is one measure. I did have to play with the sample start times in the > SP808 to get everything to sync up correctly. I think the data > compression Roland uses messes with the sample accurate loops I had set up > in Reason, though I can't confirm this. > > Overall I'm pretty happy with the set up, it's flexible, small, and now > that the pre-production work is done it's pretty easy to set up and play. > > rEalm > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology
2003-08-13 by dwoodaman
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