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Wouldn't it be cool to have a 1200 series with the 4 S&H's and 4 slew
generators of the Woggle Bug?  I could do a bunch of stuff with that...

Mike

When Grant finally gets the Auntie Oscillator into production is when
I will be turning one of my old thin line Haliburton Briefcases into a
nifty Wiard synth - all behind a Front Panel Express faceplate....

gc


"Mike Marsh" <michaelmarsh@...> wrote:

>
> Wouldn't it be cool to have a 1200 series with the 4 S&H's and 4 slew
> generators of the Woggle Bug?  I could do a bunch of stuff with that...
> 
> Mike
>

Hi Gary!
unless that was a deliberate pun....
i think it's "ANTI"-oscillator-----  and given the marketplace's
fetish for orthodoxy , it might be a very long time before such a
misbegotten critter is viable
;'>
-doc

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "dustin sedlacek"
<dustin.sedlacek@...> wrote:
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> What is the "Auntie Oscillator"? sounds like a old design :P
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> On 4/14/06, Gary Chang <gchang@...> wrote:
> >
> >  When Grant finally gets the Auntie Oscillator into production is when
> > I will be turning one of my old thin line Haliburton Briefcases into a
> > nifty Wiard synth - all behind a Front Panel Express faceplate....
> >
> > gc
> >
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> >
> > "Mike Marsh" <michaelmarsh@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wouldn't it be cool to have a 1200 series with the 4 S&H's and 4
slew
> > > generators of the Woggle Bug?  I could do a bunch of stuff with
that...
> > >
> > > Mike
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"drmabuce" <drmabuce@...> wrote:
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> Hi Gary!
> unless that was a deliberate pun....
> i think it's "ANTI"-oscillator-----  

Yes, a deliberate pun...  Like Uncle Hystamine...8')

gary

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Verschoor" <modular@...> 
wrote:
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> I've been dreaming about a Wiard Easel to lately.
> 
> :)

that's exactly what I have in mind, just add a few other modules and a 
controller, but it in a pelican briefcase and it can go anywhere.  
we've nearly got the modules, but who's making portable controllers 
(apart from joysticks)?

a few times over the years...
(look back around message 152) 
Prof. Richter has experimented with designs for complete integrated
instruments. These have ranged in scale from a very low cost (but
surprisingly well-appointed) 'microwiard'*** with an on on-board
stylus controller, to large, luxurious concepts like an Easel(that
would, of course, be commensurately priced.) 
  These concepts have languished for a variety of compelling reasons 
but i think this alternative has always been lurking around in his
mind. Perhaps if he had a very clear idea of what type and scale of
instrument, and price-point would sell like hotcakes, he might be
motivated to work something up. The problem with large-scale
integration designs is that they impose a choice between catering to
the 'bug-music' (sic) aficionados or the 1V/oct. fans (with their
DVMs). 'Please all please none' is where these designs always tend to
founder, and Grant just plain can't afford to sit on such an expensive
up-front investment in material especially where hardware intensive
controller devices are involved.
   Grant knows the fabled Easel from the inside out (literally) and
i've always been captivated by fantasies of where he could take this
fertile concept, but the Easel reportedly never recouped it's
investment for Don Buchla so i have to temper my ambitions for Wiard's
very modest resources with a sour dose of reality.

what would -everybody- buy?
;'>

-doc

PS: i'll bet the BEST way to convince Grant to abandon the idea
forever is to even bring up multiple panel formats.....
;]

*** i say 'surprisingly' because i played it once and was shocked at
how SERIOUS that little bugger was! 




--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "r_a_quirk" <r_a_quirk@...> wrote:

>
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Verschoor" <modular@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been dreaming about a Wiard Easel to lately.
> > 
> > :)
> 
> that's exactly what I have in mind, just add a few other modules and a 
> controller, but it in a pelican briefcase and it can go anywhere.  
> we've nearly got the modules, but who's making portable controllers 
> (apart from joysticks)?
>

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "drmabuce" <drmabuce@...> wrote:
>
> The problem with large-scale integration designs is that they
> impose a choice between catering to the 'bug-music' (sic) 
> aficionados or the 1V/oct. fans (with their DVMs).

While I agree that 'Please all please none' is a slippery slope, I 
believe where Grant's designs perhaps excel most is their ability 
to produce sounds that are incredibly useful musically, REGARDLESS 
OF HOW A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL DEFINES "MUSICAL." From Wogglebug'd 
glitch noise to Olivier's beautiful soundscapes to Gary's "Kingdom 
Hospital" work to Isotope 217's jazzy hip-hop, the Wiard seems to 
me the most genre agnostic electronic instrument ever invented. I 
have heard Grant say before that he'd like The Wierd to be usable 
as a child's toy as well as a professional's instrument!

Whether Grant eventually decides to produce a "normalized" single 
panel synth or simply elects to provide a laptop case designed to 
house 1200-series modules, I am certain it will prove exceedingly 
useful for all musician-types. (That includes my 2-year old son, 
Ethan, whose budding talent on the Wiard joysticks has replaced my 
PSIM as primary source of low frequency oscillations to drive twin 
JAGs. How's that for MARF?) I have no concerns re: Grant's ability 
to engineer adequate flexibility into his design. The keys will be 
to conceive a user interface that makes it sufficiently easy for 
novice synthesists to create sounds that they find pleasing and to 
introduce said instrument into the public consciousness. Perhaps 
Grant could name it the "Wiard Easyl?"

> what would -everybody- buy?

Toilet paper (to steal from Gary's previous MARF suggestion)

Just my penny or two's worth,

Chris

well, Synthesizers.com makes a dern good normal keyboard style controller, Doepfer's got a 
ribbon controller..and then there's the Haken Continuum, which of course is amazing but 
unobtainable till I stumble upon a hefty load of cash.....but,,,,,,,,,,,
are there any touch-plate style Buchla-esque beasts out there that wouldn't require a black-
market kidney sale?  
Ti_

> > that's exactly what I have in mind, just add a few other modules and a
> > controller, but it in a pelican briefcase and it can go anywhere.
> > we've nearly got the modules, but who's making portable controllers
> > (apart from joysticks)?
> >

"shari_en_jin" <shari_en_jin@...> wrote:
>
.but,,,,,,,,,,,
> are there any touch-plate style Buchla-esque beasts out there that
wouldn't require a black-
> market kidney sale?  
> Ti_
>

I am afraid that I have not been able to find a durable and playable
tactile input device that is worthy of the time and commitment spent
to learn and physically master it that doe not cost $$$.  

I, too, gagged on my sandwich when I first saw the Continuum
Fingerboard.  Then I met the inventor, and examined the device, and
decided that the device was probably going reliably work 10 years from
now, anad that Lippold was a very nice man who was interested in
standing behind his device.  So, over the period of the rest of my
life, the $$$ for the Fingerboard is too bad.

At the Namm show, Don showed the soon-to ship 222 Kinesthetic Input
port which he mentioned will have a midi output (unlike the rest of
the 200e Series).  Aside from the touch plates, it also has a pair of
electronic 'rings' that project infared bach to a sensor mounted in
the module - outputting a corresponding voltage according to location
and movement....



gc

An esthetical portable casing could be nice, ultimately, but before that, I wish grant would 
find an ergonomic alternative that would make obsolete the use of multiples, mixers, and 
vcas...those anonymous hiding-knobs-patch-cords are confusing, and the few times I've 
used an "optimal" fixed patching setup ended up to be a bit tiresome and uncreative.