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Maybe you won't have to do a full bank loan if you just do it one  
module at a time, or at least you could do a series of smaller loans  
that you will have a better chance of paying off without losing money  
on interest or late fees. Since Grant is so hands on with his products  
it takes some time for him to build modules (worth it!), and you would  
either be getting one module every few months as they are built or  
waiting quite a while for the entire system to be all ready.

I was also excited to buy a few modules all at once, but after talking  
to Grant about he recommended only purchasing one at a a time. One of  
the benefits is that I'll have each module for a period of time before  
getting another, so I'll be able to learn more about how it works and  
what I can do with it before getting distracted by another module.  
Wait time is also shorter for modules that he is doing a group build  
on if your timing is right. I also haven't spent a big lump of money  
on a system I won't see for a long time. Nice n' easy! I'd highly  
recommend calling Grant on the phone and talking to him personally  
about your plans. He's a great guy to chat with, and it's really cool  
(and rare these days) to be able to meet the person behind all these  
awesome instruments. I feel like I'm doing business with a friend  
instead of "some dude"! You'll also benefit from his advice, which is  
priceless.

~

Happy holiday times Wiardos! Thanks for being my internet friends for  
another great year! Bweep!




On Dec 19, 2007, at 4:44 PM, amnesia wrote:

> its not good fortune is bank loan :-)
>
> I plan not to buy any more Wiards after the 6 panel, but hey I said no
> more modular after buying the Serge :-)
>
> Ross
>
> drmabuce wrote:
> >
> > Hi cray
> >
> > congrats on your sudden good fortune.
> > Paul has done a very thorough job of answering your questions. i'm
> > just chiming in with a couple of comments of less substance..
> >
> > >
> > > > It would be the best idea if I could get the woggle in a  
> Eurorack
> > silver
> > > > faceplate I know it would be wide but it would be the best  
> option for
> > > > me.
> > >
> > > ...I'm going to gently suggest that the good doctor has plenty of
> > work on
> > > his schedule with orders from the normal production line, and  
> maybe
> > not so
> > > much time or energy for one off projects in alternate formats?  
> I'm just
> > > saying. Grant has been very clear that the panel process and  
> costs are
> > > the biggest expense and (I think) hassle of the entire process.
> >
> > Amen,
> > Panel/mechanical specs are the real devil in the details. Grant has
> > standardized on his format in an effort to make his mostly
> > one-guy-with-a-soldering-iron production methodology work - 
> consistently-.
> > The question of how much of a client-base that format gains or loses
> > him is, IMHO, moot, because it is entirely his prerogative. If  
> there's
> > one aspect of the goings-on at Wiard World Headquarters with which  
> i'm
> > intimately familiar, it's the prolonged pain that Grant endured
> > learning the hard lessons in balancing the commercial viability,
> > personal satisfaction, innovation, and practical efficiency implicit
> > in his choices for how to make a Wiard.
> > Paul's 'gentle suggestion' is right on target. Custom work is
> > expensive for everyone in the transaction. It costs the supplier in
> > time, material and opportunity cost and it disrupts routines that
> > generate the efficiencies of a production process. Keep in mind that
> > when Grant is not occupied making modules he's inventing new ones  
> that
> > may be even cooler than the ones we already want. In accepting a
> > custom order Grant must weigh-in the cost of what won't get done in
> > order to devote time to the individual project. In order to keep
> > Wiard going, Grant must pass his best guess at the cost of all these
> > factors to the client in advance and when he guesses wrong , at  
> least
> > so far, he has ended up most often with the short straw.
> >
> > My observation is that even among veteran, experienced synthgeeks,
> > very few realize that panel, pots, knobs and legending are some of  
> the
> > MOST complicated and expensive components of a module and the  
> process
> > of making one.
> >
> > i realize that the charge of hypocrisy can be leveled loudly and
> > legitimately at me on this issue, since i have plunged myself in hot
> > water before for declaring that form-factor is a non-issue and that
> > 'the synthesizer is BEHIND the panel'
> > But i realize that this is true only from my individual DIY
> > perspective. It is indeed a trivial thing for me to grab my trusty
> > ball-pean and bash a Wogglebug PCB off it's standoffs behind the  
> panel
> > and remount it in some scratchy lucite with banana jacks. But it is
> > only trivial because i am providing my own labor, time, and planning
> > (too often in exactly that exact order!)
> > It is a very different kettle of fish to try to factor such ad-hoc
> > flexibility into a PRODUCTION process. Grants decision to cling to  
> his
> > form factor is not some arbitrary fiat, it is a lesson that was
> > 'etched on his shoulders by the lash of experience'.
> >
> > By far, the best way to get Wiard in custom formats is to get the
> > rework done somewhere other than in the professor's basement.
> >
> > >
> > > If you want to build one, see here:
> > > http://diy.czmok.de/Group-Buys.66.0.html
> > <http://diy.czmok.de/Group-Buys.66.0.html>
> > >
> > > > Anyway if thats not a possibility I plan to get
> > > >
> > > > 2 x WFC (or one WFC and one Classic VCO)
> > > > WoggleBug
> > > > Borg Filter
> > > > Sequentizer
> > > > Envelator
> > > >
> > > > Id love owners opinions.
> > >
> > > That'll make a big beautiful noise :) I'm not sure you can go  
> wrong
> > with
> > > ANY six modules from Wiard.
> >
> > i agree with Paul on this too
> > your compement of modules looks well-thought-out and should equip  
> you
> > with some pretty formidable firepower. The sequantizer envelator  
> combo
> > is (IMHO) especially potent
> >
> > best wishes,
> > -doc
> >
> >
>
>