Hi, Here's a link to useful Aries Info including schematics: http://leinermedia.net/aries/home.html Other sites around the net also have the Aries Schem's. I wanted one of these as bad in the 70's as I want a 300 Wiard now! I always preferred the Aries panels to moog's, and the 300 is a natural extension of that panel format. The AR-314 is a LowPass VCF and the epoxy-blocked part is the expo converter which should not be too difficult to figure out from the rest of the circuit. I also believe I've seen its schematic online somewhere, but I don't recall where just now. While I agree with the idea that you should first go with what you have, and also that this particular filter isn't especially unique; making a clone of this VCF shouldn't prove too difficult for someone familiar with DIY. No real unobtainium, you could use a 13700 for the two 3080's and likely MPF-102's for the E212's. Kind regards, Randal --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, John <inform3r@...> wrote: > > I think the Doc is right. The Aries is old stuff that hasn¹t been around > for a while. They are great modules but I don¹t think there is anything that > that particular Aries filter could do that can¹t be reproduced with readily > available modules today, IMHO. Unless you already have a partial system, or > you are a collector, I would try out the patch with what you have on hand. > Now the prototypes Grant built into Aries cases..... What I would give > to get my hands on those!!!! :) > > Best Regards, > John Langdon > > > On 11/18/07 1:44 AM, "drmabuce" <drmabuce@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi James > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com <mailto:wiardgroup% 40yahoogroups.com> , fred > > fain <esoterrafirma@> > > wrote: > >> > Well, actually, that tidbit does inspire some dispair. > >> >Do you have any suggestions for patching an equivalent 300 series > > example. > > > > the Omni has a resonance CV input so that's probably the closest > > approximation in an 'All Blue' rig > > > >> > Why would a borg not call up the same beast? > > > > well, strictly speaking , because resonance is not a CV parameter... > > ...although the old Buchla trick of adding 'homemade' VC resonance > > by patching an external VCA (ie mixolator channel) in an audio > > feedback path might be worth a try. The Borg is, after all, a very > > rich sounding VCF. > > > >> > Where do I get an aries? > > > > Sadly, they stopped production before the majority of AH subscribers > > were born. > > there's a quick blurb and some pics here: > > > > http://www.synthmuseum.com/aries/index.html > > > > as for obtaining one it'd be strictly the used market. > > Aries sold kits (all my modules were sold as kits) and i hot- rodded > > and expanded one of my 2600's with Aries enhancements back in the > > early 80's. i still love them madly but i couldn't tell you about > > the architecture of the AR327 multimode VCF because even as a kit, > > the core circuit was potted in epoxy.... > > 8( > > ... a practice that should give any of us old farts pause before we > > wax loquacious about 'the GOOD old days' . > > I've also seen some schematics floating around the infosphere but i > > don't remember where. My best guess is that it is a fairly standard > > state variable , possibly with fet-stages rather than opamps, and > > there are many state modern variable-type VCF's on the market. i > > think that filter sonic-quality is the most ludicrously over-hyped > > subject in the field anyway... > > Try what you already own... you may discover something new and even > > better! > > > > nighty night, > > -doc > > > > > > >
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Re: bug cv + bug mp3
2007-11-19 by randaleem
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