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Re: bug cv + bug mp3

2007-11-19 by randaleem

Hi,

Here's a link to useful Aries Info including schematics: 
http://leinermedia.net/aries/home.html

Other sites around the net also have the Aries Schem's. I wanted one 
of these as bad in the 70's as I want a 300 Wiard now! I always 
preferred the Aries panels to moog's, and the 300 is a natural 
extension of that panel format.

The AR-314 is a LowPass VCF and the epoxy-blocked part is the expo 
converter which should not be too difficult to figure out from the 
rest of the circuit. I also believe I've seen its schematic online 
somewhere, but I don't recall where just now. 

While I agree with the idea that you should first go with what you 
have, and also that this particular filter isn't especially unique; 
making a clone of this VCF shouldn't prove too difficult for someone 
familiar with DIY. No real unobtainium, you could use a 13700 for the 
two 3080's and likely MPF-102's for the E212's.

Kind regards, Randal


--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, John <inform3r@...> wrote:
>
>     I think the Doc is right. The Aries is old stuff that hasn¹t 
been around
> for a while. They are great modules but I don¹t think there is 
anything that
> that particular Aries filter could do that can¹t be reproduced with 
readily
> available modules today, IMHO. Unless you already have a partial 
system, or
> you are a collector, I would try out the patch with what you have 
on hand.
>     Now the prototypes Grant built into Aries cases..... What I 
would give
> to get my hands on those!!!! :)
> 
>     Best Regards,
>     John Langdon
> 
> 
> On 11/18/07 1:44 AM, "drmabuce" <drmabuce@...> wrote:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > Hi James
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com <mailto:wiardgroup%
40yahoogroups.com> , fred
> > fain <esoterrafirma@>
> > wrote:
> >> > Well, actually, that tidbit does inspire some dispair.
> >> >Do you have any suggestions for patching an equivalent 300 
series
> > example.
> > 
> > the Omni has a resonance CV  input so that's probably the closest
> > approximation in an 'All Blue' rig
> > 
> >> > Why would a borg not call up the same beast?
> > 
> > well, strictly speaking , because resonance is not a CV 
parameter...
> > ...although the old Buchla trick of adding 'homemade' VC resonance
> > by patching an external VCA (ie mixolator channel) in an audio
> > feedback path might be worth a try. The Borg is, after all, a very
> > rich sounding VCF.
> > 
> >> > Where do I get an aries?
> > 
> > Sadly, they stopped production before the majority of AH 
subscribers
> > were born.
> > there's a quick blurb and some pics here:
> > 
> > http://www.synthmuseum.com/aries/index.html
> > 
> > as for obtaining one  it'd be strictly the used market.
> > Aries sold kits (all my modules were sold as kits) and i hot-
rodded
> > and expanded one of my 2600's with Aries enhancements back in the
> > early 80's. i still love them madly but i couldn't tell you about
> > the architecture of the AR327 multimode VCF because even as a kit,
> > the core circuit was potted in epoxy....
> > 8(
> > ... a practice that should give any of us old farts pause before 
we
> > wax loquacious about 'the GOOD old days' .
> > I've also seen some schematics floating around the infosphere but 
i
> > don't remember where. My best guess is that it is a fairly 
standard
> > state variable , possibly with fet-stages rather than opamps, and
> > there are many state modern variable-type VCF's on the market. i
> > think that filter sonic-quality is the most ludicrously over-hyped
> > subject in the field anyway...
> > Try what you already own... you may discover something new and 
even
> > better!
> > 
> > nighty night,
> > -doc 
> > 
> >  
> >
>

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