Thank you all for that useful information. I believe I understand now. Each Wiard module in the 300 and 1200 series has a 1K limiting resistor on the output of the op-amp or transistor Class A buffer. This limits the output current to a safe level, even in the even of a complete short (like when a patch cord touches a faceplate during normal patching). They also protect the outputs if two outputs are connected together (see below). Lets do a tiny bit of math. By Ohms law, 10 volt divided by 1000 (1K) ohms equals 0.01 amps or 10 milliamps. Power is determined by volts times amps so, 10 times 0.01 equals 0.1 or 100 milliwatts. The output resistors are 250 millwatts to give a time 2 margin of safety. The 1K output resistor does form a voltage divider with the 50K input resistance of module inputs. But this voltage drop is only 2%, and not audible. For precision outputs (1 volt per octave) the 1K resistor is placed inside the op-amp feedback loop. This keeps the output protection, but the voltage drop is compensated for. Since all the output are protected by 1K resistors, you can use simple multiples to mix module outputs together. For example, to place Borg 1 ouptus in parallel, just run the same signal to both inputs and connect both ouputs to the multiple at the bottom of the patch bay. Since every module input and output is fault protected, this means you can connect the modules without fear to any other type of module. It should be impossible for the Wiard to do any damage to any other kind of module, and likewise the other modules can not damage the Wiard modules. So, it is safe to patch the Wiard 300 or 1200 modules to modules from other manufacturers. If you are sending 10 volt outputs to 5 volt inputs, you need a simple attenuator to get the BEHAVIOR you expect. Take the exaple of a VCA that has a gain of one (unity) at 5 volts. Without an attenuator, the VCA will "clip" the 10 volt envelope and spend most of it's time fully on. Now that I know whats going on, it would be trivial to convert the 1209 Joystick and 1211 JAG module to operate at 5 volts in the native mode. This only involves changing some resistor values. This is not the same as changing to banana plugs, which is machanically difficult and would not produce a "roadworthy" module. Sorry for any misunderstanding. I deliberately do not look at other modern manufacturers products so I don't get influenced by trendy ideas. It is easier to be completely original if you avoid the "pollution" of what is happening now, and just concentrate on sticking to your own internal vision. I think the market needs more original thinking and less repackaging of vintage designs. Just repackaging someone elses design is very inexpensive, because there are no research and development costs. This is why some people can sell their modules so cheaply, they have no real investment aside from a faceplate and PC board. This does nothing to advance the state of the art. All of Wiard intellectual property is utterly unique, nothing is copied (except on the conceptual level) from any one else. The goal is to advance the state of the art in synthesis in general, not just in regards to modular instruments. I think this has worked great in that regard (although the "cloned" designs may sell more widely). --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "p. hendricks" <ph@...> wrote: > > posted on the Doepfer list Fri Jul 7, 2006: > > As long as the voltages applied to any socket are within -12V...+12V we > guarantee that nothing can be damaged within the A-100. But even voltages > beyond these limits will not damage most of the inputs (e.g. audio inputs > and CV inputs with attenuators). But there is one exception: inputs and > outputs of modules that use voltage controlled switches (e.g. A-150, A-151, > A-152, A-154, A-155, A-148), older versions of A-150 and A-151 > (max. -8V...+8V), and CV or audio inputs without attenuators. For these > in/outputs the voltages applied should be within -12V...+12V. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer >
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Re: Any problems using the JAG with a 5 volt system (euro)?
2006-10-08 by Grant Richter
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