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Re: Envelope

2001-08-02 by grantrichter2001@yahoo.com

--- In wiardgroup@y..., "r" <datakult@e...> wrote:
> 
> Curious to hear what you guys think of the ENVELATOR.   I 
have a very
> difficult time getting 'fast' attacks on the thing regardless of how 
I set
> it up...  Was curious if this is *my* problem/ observation as a 
user (there
> is a good possibility im am really looking over something 
obvious in
> setting up my patch(es)with the Wiard.
> 
> I am aware of the LIN/LOG settings on the Mixolator and its 
relationship to
> perceived attack and "boomy-ness" of the output. I find it is 
difficult to
> get those 'subotnik-esque' fast "plucks".  (Getting the general 
'sound' is
> very easy....thanks to the wonderful characteristics of the Borg.
> 
> Maybe what I am looking for is the idea behind the 
Envelooper???
> 
> xox
> r

The shortest attack time on the envelator is 1 millisecond 
(1/1000 second). According to psychoacoustic studies, the ear is 
not able to determine envelope times shorter than 1 millisecond. 

Most envelopes have a 5 millisecond minimum attack.

The bandwidth on the current control circuit for the Mixolator is 4 
Megahertz, which is plenty faster than 1 millisecond. There 
should be no problem generating attack times of 1 millisecond.

The Borg is slow due to the Vactrol used which has a 5 
millisecond attack time. The original Buchla circuit used a linear 
current source for the Vactrol LED, this does not work with a 
joystick correctly, and the Borg current source is exponential. But 
that should just make the envelopes shorter yet.

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