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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-21 by Richard Cohen

yes a korg DW8000.

so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid and clean 
the back of each key and the contact part of the synth engine...?

should i use alcohol or water?  special formula?


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
>
>The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is this for 
>the Korg?
>
>Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but VERY simple. 
>If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for the most part, 
>these people don't give a crap about your property and will pile other gear 
>on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if you're 
>lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her on her face 
>on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs and slide it 
>around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's just money 
>for them.
>
>If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with most of the 
>fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the wood cheeks, 
>etc.) still there!
>
>If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from repair shops 
>unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
>
>I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at MusicTek (North 
>Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on <eeek>.
>I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have gone through 
>these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can pay them a 
>"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast track" of 
>an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of the mounting 
>hardware.
>
>I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there for 5 months 
>and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. It's under 90 
>day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 months now - just 
>to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly done already! 
>These people REALLY suck!
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Richard Cohen
>   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
>   Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>
>
>   yeah... got it!
>
>   no my problem is fixing the keys....
>
>   out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
>
>   someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
>
>   is this easy to do at home?
>
>   how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the work is under
>   warranty?
>
>
>   thanks bro!
>
>   >From: "chromal" <chromal.dragon@...>
>   >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>   >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
>   >
>   >Richierich954,
>   >
>   >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you have
>   >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be looking 
>for...
>   >
>   >
>   >Good Luck,
>   >Ben
>   >
>   >
>   >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
>   ><richierich954@h...> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > hello everybody...
>   > >
>   > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 prong IEC
>   >power cord.
>   > >
>   > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, and nobody
>   >has them.
>   > >
>   > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is greatly
>   >appreciated.
>   > >
>   > > thank you.
>   > >
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-21 by Scott A. Robb

Alcohol should work fine. The only Korg who's keybed I have looked at is the MS-20 so it's probably different than yours.
If it's like the keybeds (mfg. by Mitsubishi) on the Korg Mono/Poly, Memorymoog and OB-8 take a look here for cleaning instructions:
Scott Rider is a brillian man but I would take slight issue with his suggestion to use an eraser on the contacts, this should not be necessary. You will want to use it (VERY GENTLY) on the black contact that is inside the rubber cup though and only a few gentle swipes. Hate to state the obvious but make sure you tet everything prior to buttoning it up.
I usually use alcohol followed by a contact enhancer but the latter is not required.
Scott Robb
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

yes a korg DW8000.

so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid and clean
the back of each key and the contact part of the synth engine...?

should i use alcohol or water? special formula?


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
>
>The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is this for
>the Korg?
>
>Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but VERY simple.
>If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for the most part,
>these people don't give a crap about your property and will pile other gear
>on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if you're
>lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her on her face
>on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs and slide it
>around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's just money
>for them.
>
>If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with most of the
>fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the wood cheeks,
>etc.) still there!
>
>If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from repair shops
>unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
>
>I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at MusicTek (North
>Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on .
>I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have gone through
>these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can pay them a
>"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast track" of
>an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of the mounting
>hardware.
>
>I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there for 5 months
>and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. It's under 90
>;day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 months now - just
>to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly done already!
>These people REALLY suck!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Cohen
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>
>
> yeah... got it!
>
> no my problem is fixing the keys....
>
> out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
>
> someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
>
> is this easy to do at home?
>
> how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the work is under
> warranty?
>
>
> thanks bro!
>
> >From: "chromal"
> >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
> >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
> >
> ; >Richierich954,
> >
> >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you have
> >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be looking
>for...
> >
> >
> >Good Luck,
> >Ben
>; >
> >
> >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > hello everybody...
> > >
> > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 prong IEC
> >power cord.
> > >
> > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, and nobody
> >has them.
> > >
> > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is greatly
> >appreciated.
> > >
> ; > > thank you.
> > >
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-21 by Richard Cohen

i got a quote from the synth doctor here in florida...
he said it might not need cleaning (?)

i'll forward you the e-mail...

let me know what you think...


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:58:04 -0700
>
>Alcohol should work fine. The only Korg who's keybed I have looked at is 
>the MS-20 so it's probably different than yours.
>
>If it's like the keybeds (mfg. by Mitsubishi) on the Korg Mono/Poly, 
>Memorymoog and OB-8 take a look here for cleaning instructions:
>http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/keyclean.html
>
>Scott Rider is a brillian man but I would take slight issue with his 
>suggestion to use an eraser on the contacts, this should not be necessary. 
>You will want to use it (VERY GENTLY) on the black contact that is inside 
>the rubber cup though and only a few gentle swipes. Hate to state the 
>obvious but make sure you tet everything prior to buttoning it up.
>
>I usually use alcohol followed by a contact enhancer but the latter is not 
>required.
>
>Scott Robb
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Richard Cohen
>   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:41 AM
>   Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
>   yes a korg DW8000.
>
>   so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid and 
>clean
>   the back of each key and the contact part of the synth engine...?
>
>   should i use alcohol or water?  special formula?
>
>
>   >From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>   >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>   >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>   >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
>   >
>   >The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is this 
>for
>   >the Korg?
>   >
>   >Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but VERY 
>simple.
>   >If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for the most 
>part,
>   >these people don't give a crap about your property and will pile other 
>gear
>   >on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if you're
>   >lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her on her 
>face
>   >on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs and 
>slide it
>   >around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's just 
>money
>   >for them.
>   >
>   >If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with most of the
>   >fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the wood 
>cheeks,
>   >etc.) still there!
>   >
>   >If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from repair 
>shops
>   >unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
>   >
>   >I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at MusicTek (North
>   >Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on <eeek>.
>   >I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have gone 
>through
>   >these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can pay them a
>   >"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast track" 
>of
>   >an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of the 
>mounting
>   >hardware.
>   >
>   >I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there for 5 
>months
>   >and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. It's 
>under 90
>   >day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 months now - 
>just
>   >to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly done 
>already!
>   >These people REALLY suck!
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Richard Cohen
>   >   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>   >
>   >
>   >   yeah... got it!
>   >
>   >   no my problem is fixing the keys....
>   >
>   >   out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
>   >
>   >   someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
>   >
>   >   is this easy to do at home?
>   >
>   >   how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the work is 
>under
>   >   warranty?
>   >
>   >
>   >   thanks bro!
>   >
>   >   >From: "chromal" <chromal.dragon@...>
>   >   >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >   >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >   >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>   >   >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
>   >   >
>   >   >Richierich954,
>   >   >
>   >   >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you have
>   >   >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be looking
>   >for...
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >Good Luck,
>   >   >Ben
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
>   >   ><richierich954@h...> wrote:
>   >   > >
>   >   > > hello everybody...
>   >   > >
>   >   > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 prong IEC
>   >   >power cord.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, and 
>nobody
>   >   >has them.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is greatly
>   >   >appreciated.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > thank you.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > 
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RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-21 by Keith Niver

Be careful saying alcohol. Several different types, isopropyl, denatured,
straight, etc. Soap and water normally work fine, just make sure you use
some air to blow them dry or let them dry overnight. Would not suggest using
anything very strong on the pc board contacts as you may ruin them, and then
it's all over but the weeping and the wailing. 
 
As for the one thread reply about repair shops, don't condemn repairs in
general because of one bad apple. I happen to take great pride in my work
and try my best to get it turned around as quickly as possible, especially
for a working pro. I also make sure I don't have any screws or parts left
over and do a thorough check before it leaves the bench. There is a group
called MITA that certifies techs. I am a certified MITA tech and a Master
Certified Tech for one manufacturer and also certified by several major
manufacturers who oversee the work you do on a regular basis. 
 
Keith Niver
Master Certified Tech & Certified MITA tech
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@...] 
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:58 AM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts


Alcohol should work fine. The only Korg who's keybed I have looked at is the
MS-20 so it's probably different than yours.
 
If it's like the keybeds (mfg. by Mitsubishi) on the Korg Mono/Poly,
Memorymoog and OB-8 take a look here for cleaning instructions:
http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/keyclean.html
 
Scott Rider is a brillian man but I would take slight issue with his
suggestion to use an eraser on the contacts, this should not be necessary.
You will want to use it (VERY GENTLY) on the black contact that is inside
the rubber cup though and only a few gentle swipes. Hate to state the
obvious but make sure you tet everything prior to buttoning it up.
 
I usually use alcohol followed by a contact enhancer but the latter is not
required.
 
Scott Robb 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Richard Cohen <mailto:richierich954@...>  
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

yes a korg DW8000.

so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid and clean 
the back of each key and the contact part of the synth engine...?

should i use alcohol or water?  special formula?


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
>
>The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is this for 
>the Korg?
>
>Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but VERY simple. 
>If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for the most part,

>these people don't give a crap about your property and will pile other gear

>on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if you're 
>lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her on her face 
>on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs and slide it

>around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's just money 
>for them.
>
>If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with most of the 
>fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the wood cheeks,

>etc.) still there!
>
>If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from repair shops 
>unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
>
>I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at MusicTek (North 
>Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on <eeek>.
>I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have gone through 
>these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can pay them a 
>"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast track" of 
>an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of the mounting 
>hardware.
>
>I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there for 5 months 
>and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. It's under 90

>day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 months now - just

>to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly done already!

>These people REALLY suck!
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Richard Cohen
>   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
>   Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>
>
>   yeah... got it!
>
>   no my problem is fixing the keys....
>
>   out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
>
>   someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
>
>   is this easy to do at home?
>
>   how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the work is under
>   warranty?
>
>
>   thanks bro!
>
>   >From: "chromal" <chromal.dragon@...>
>   >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>   >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
>   >
>   >Richierich954,
>   >
>   >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you have
>   >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be looking 
>for...
>   >
>   >
>   >Good Luck,
>   >Ben
>   >
>   >
>   >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
>   ><richierich954@h...> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > hello everybody...
>   > >
>   > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 prong IEC
>   >power cord.
>   > >
>   > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, and nobody
>   >has them.
>   > >
>   > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is greatly
>   >appreciated.
>   > >
>   > > thank you.
>   > >
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-22 by Scott A. Robb

Good point about the alcohol. My bad to assume that we'd all be on the same page.
Re: the repair shops: Yes, I am certain that there are good tech's and shops out there (Kevin Lightner of Synthfool for one). I am just really anal about my stuff and I look long and hard for the best condition synth of a particular model and then spend even more time completely restoring it cosmetically and taking it apart completely and cleaning / lubing it refinishing the wood etc. Then to have some bozo F up my work, lose my hardware and then have to give him money for the privilage just REALLY burns my ass. Especially considering that it's so simple to take a couple of extra seconds to organize and take care handling the equipment.
It's unfortunate but I have seen this happen more often than not.
So um, you wouldn't happen to be in the L.A. area, would you?
Scott
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

Be careful saying alcohol. Several different types, isopropyl, denatured, straight, etc. Soap and water normally work fine, just make sure you use some air to blow them dry or let them dry overnight. Would not suggest using anything very strong on the pc board contacts as you may ruin them, and then it's all over but the weeping and the wailing.
As for the one thread reply about repair shops, don't condemn repairs in general because of one bad apple. I happen to take great pride in my work and try my best to get it turned around as quickly as possible, especially for a working pro. I also make sure I don't have any screws or parts left over and do a thorough check before it leaves the bench. There is a group called MITA that certifies techs. I am a certified MITA tech and a Master Certified Tech for one manufacturer and also certified by several major manufacturers who oversee the work you do on a regular basis.
Keith Niver
Master Certified Tech & Certified MITA tech
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:58 AM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

Alcohol should work fine. The only Korg who's keybed I have looked at is the MS-20 so it's probably different than yours.
If it's like the keybeds (mfg. by Mitsubishi) on the Korg Mono/Poly, Memorymoog and OB-8 take a look here for cleaning instructions:
Scott Rider is a brillian man but I would take slight issue with his suggestion to use an eraser on the contacts, this should not be necessary. You will want to use it (VERY GENTLY) on the black contact that is inside the rubber cup though and only a few gentle swipes. Hate to state the obvious but make sure you tet everything prior to buttoning it up.
I usually use alcohol followed by a contact enhancer but the latter is not required.
Scott Robb
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

yes a korg DW8000.

so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid and clean
the back of each key and the contact part of the synth engine...?

should i use alcohol or water? special formula?


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
>
>The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is this for
>;the Korg?
>
>Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but VERY simple.
>If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for the most part,
>these people don't give a crap about your property and will pile other gear
>on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if you're
>lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her on her face
>on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs and slide it
>around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's just money
>for them.
>
>If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with most of the
>fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the wood cheeks,
>etc.) still there!
>
>If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from repair shops
>unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
>
>I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at MusicTek (North
>Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on .
>I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have gone through
>these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can pay them a
>"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast track" of
>an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of the mounting
>hardware.
>
>I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there for 5 months
>and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. It's under 90
>day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 months now - just
>to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly done already!
>These people REALLY suck!
> ; ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Cohen
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>;
>
> yeah... got it!
>
> no my problem is fixing the keys....
>
> out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
>
> ; someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
>
> is this easy to do at home?
>
> how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the work is under
> warranty?
>
>
> ; thanks bro!
>
> >From: "chromal"
> >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
> >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
> >
> >Richierich954,
> >
> >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you have
> >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be looking
>for...
> >
> >
> >Good Luck,
> >Ben
> >
> >;
> >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > hello everybody...
> > >
> > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 prong IEC
> >power cord.
> > >
> > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, and nobody
> >has them.
> > >
> > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is greatly
> >appreciated.
> > >
> > > thank you.
> > >
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-22 by Scott A. Robb

Oh god, don't even get me started on the courier companies! ;-)
;
Do you have a specialty? BTW, what is MITA?
Scott
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

Unfortunately not, I'm in upstate New York, but you could always ship stuff to me.
Keith Niver
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:42 PM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

Good point about the alcohol. My bad to assume that we'd all be on the same page.
Re: the repair shops: Yes, I am certain that there are good tech's and shops out there (Kevin Lightner of Synthfool for one). I am just really anal about my stuff and I look long and hard for the best condition synth of a particular model and then spend even more time completely restoring it cosmetically and taking it apart completely and cleaning / lubing it refinishing the wood etc. Then to have some bozo F up my work, lose my hardware and then have to give him money for the privilage just REALLY burns my ass. Especially considering that it's so simple to take a couple of extra seconds to organize and take care handling the equipment.
It's unfortunate but I have seen this happen more often than not.
So um, you wouldn't happen to be in the L.A. area, would you?
Scott


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RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-22 by Keith Niver

Unfortunately not, I'm in upstate New York, but you could always ship stuff
to me.
 
Keith Niver
Show quoted textHide quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@...] 
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:42 PM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts


Good point about the alcohol. My bad to assume that we'd all be on the same
page.
 
Re: the repair shops: Yes, I am certain that there are good tech's and shops
out there (Kevin Lightner of Synthfool for one). I am just really anal about
my stuff and I look long and hard for the best condition synth of a
particular model and then spend even more time completely restoring it
cosmetically and taking it apart completely and cleaning / lubing it
refinishing the wood etc. Then to have some bozo F up my work, lose my
hardware and then have to give him money for the privilage just REALLY burns
my ass. Especially considering that it's so simple to take a couple of extra
seconds to organize and take care handling the equipment.
 
It's unfortunate but I have seen this happen more often than not.
 
So um, you wouldn't happen to be in the L.A. area, would you?
 
Scott

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-22 by Steve Ball

Keith;
Out of curiosity, where are you located? I'm always looking for a good synth tech here in the Cincinnati (Ohio) area.
Steve,
Cincinnati
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

Be careful saying alcohol. Several different types, isopropyl, denatured, straight, etc. Soap and water normally work fine, just make sure you use some air to blow them dry or let them dry overnight. Would not suggest using anything very strong on the pc board contacts as you may ruin them, and then it's all over but the weeping and the wailing.
As for the one thread reply about repair shops, don't condemn repairs in general because of one bad apple. I happen to take great pride in my work and try my best to get it turned around as quickly as possible, especially for a working pro. I also make sure I don't have any screws or parts left over and do a thorough check before it leaves the bench. There is a group called MITA that certifies techs. I am a certified MITA tech and a Master Certified Tech for one manufacturer and also certified by several major manufacturers who oversee the work you do on a regular basis.
Keith Niver
Master Certified Tech & Certified MITA tech
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:58 AM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

Alcohol should work fine. The only Korg who's keybed I have looked at is the MS-20 so it's probably different than yours.
If it's like the keybeds (mfg. by Mitsubishi) on the Korg Mono/Poly, Memorymoog and OB-8 take a look here for cleaning instructions:
Scott Rider is a brillian man but I would take slight issue with his suggestion to use an eraser on the contacts, this should not be necessary. You will want to use it (VERY GENTLY) on the black contact that is inside the rubber cup though and only a few gentle swipes. Hate to state the obvious but make sure you tet everything prior to buttoning it up.
I usually use alcohol followed by a contact enhancer but the latter is not required.
Scott Robb
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

yes a korg DW8000.

so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid and clean
the back of each key and the contact part of the synth engine...?

should i use alcohol or water? special formula?


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...t>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
>
>The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is this for
>the Korg?
>
>Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but VERY simple.
>If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for the most part,
>these people don't give a crap about your property and will pile other gear
>on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if you're
>lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her on her face
>on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs and slide it
>around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's just money
>for them.
>
>If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with most of the
>fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the wood cheeks,
>etc.) still there!
>
>If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from repair shops
>unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
>
>I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at MusicTek (North
>Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on .
>I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have gone through
>these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can pay them a
>"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast track" of
>an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of the mounting
>hardware.
>
>I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there for 5 months
>and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. It's under 90
>day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 months now - just
>to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly done already!
>These people REALLY suck!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Cohen
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>
>
> yeah... got it!
>
> no my problem is fixing the keys....
>
> out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
>
> someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
>
> is this easy to do at home?
>
> how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the work is under
> warranty?
>
>
> thanks bro!
>
> >From: "chromal"
> >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
> >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
> >
> >Richierich954,
> >
> >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you have
> >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be looking
>for...
> >
> >
> >Good Luck,
> >Ben
> >
> >
> >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > hello everybody...
> > >
> > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 prong IEC
> >power cord.
> > >
> > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, and nobody
> >has them.
> > >
> > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is greatly
> >appreciated.
> > >
> > > thank you.
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-22 by Richard Cohen

I'm in Miami....

just an update on my restoration....

unscrewed the keyboard... lightly took off the flimsy, dusty cardboard 
shieldings under the contact housing, cleaned all the contacts.  plugged the 
unit in... more keys worked than before... but not all...
turned the unit off... screwed all the major stuff back in... started to put 
the outter casing together when i noticed that the two lines connected to 
the power switch (which had previously been soldered) snapped right off from 
the button!

to make a long story short... not only do i have the keys to worry about, 
now i have 2 tortured power lines that need to be repaired.

i'm taking this to a shop when I hit the lotto.

it's a Korg DW8000... I'm better off saving my money and getting a MS2000...

or better yet, when I hit lotto, I'm getting a MiniMoog -- brand new!


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:42:09 -0700
>
>MessageGood point about the alcohol. My bad to assume that we'd all be on 
>the same page.
>
>Re: the repair shops: Yes, I am certain that there are good tech's and 
>shops out there (Kevin Lightner of Synthfool for one). I am just really 
>anal about my stuff and I look long and hard for the best condition synth 
>of a particular model and then spend even more time completely restoring it 
>cosmetically and taking it apart completely and cleaning / lubing it 
>refinishing the wood etc. Then to have some bozo F up my work, lose my 
>hardware and then have to give him money for the privilage just REALLY 
>burns my ass. Especially considering that it's so simple to take a couple 
>of extra seconds to organize and take care handling the equipment.
>
>It's unfortunate but I have seen this happen more often than not.
>
>So um, you wouldn't happen to be in the L.A. area, would you?
>
>Scott
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Keith Niver
>   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:37 PM
>   Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
>   Be careful saying alcohol. Several different types, isopropyl, 
>denatured, straight, etc. Soap and water normally work fine, just make sure 
>you use some air to blow them dry or let them dry overnight. Would not 
>suggest using anything very strong on the pc board contacts as you may ruin 
>them, and then it's all over but the weeping and the wailing.
>
>   As for the one thread reply about repair shops, don't condemn repairs in 
>general because of one bad apple. I happen to take great pride in my work 
>and try my best to get it turned around as quickly as possible, especially 
>for a working pro. I also make sure I don't have any screws or parts left 
>over and do a thorough check before it leaves the bench. There is a group 
>called MITA that certifies techs. I am a certified MITA tech and a Master 
>Certified Tech for one manufacturer and also certified by several major 
>manufacturers who oversee the work you do on a regular basis.
>
>   Keith Niver
>   Master Certified Tech & Certified MITA tech
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@...]
>     Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:58 AM
>     To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
>     Alcohol should work fine. The only Korg who's keybed I have looked at 
>is the MS-20 so it's probably different than yours.
>
>     If it's like the keybeds (mfg. by Mitsubishi) on the Korg Mono/Poly, 
>Memorymoog and OB-8 take a look here for cleaning instructions:
>     http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/keyclean.html
>
>     Scott Rider is a brillian man but I would take slight issue with his 
>suggestion to use an eraser on the contacts, this should not be necessary. 
>You will want to use it (VERY GENTLY) on the black contact that is inside 
>the rubber cup though and only a few gentle swipes. Hate to state the 
>obvious but make sure you tet everything prior to buttoning it up.
>
>     I usually use alcohol followed by a contact enhancer but the latter is 
>not required.
>
>     Scott Robb
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Richard Cohen
>       To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>       Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:41 AM
>       Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
>       yes a korg DW8000.
>
>       so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid and 
>clean
>       the back of each key and the contact part of the synth engine...?
>
>       should i use alcohol or water?  special formula?
>
>
>       >From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>       >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>       >To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>       >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>       >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
>       >
>       >The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is 
>this for
>       >the Korg?
>       >
>       >Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but VERY 
>simple.
>       >If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for the 
>most part,
>       >these people don't give a crap about your property and will pile 
>other gear
>       >on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if 
>you're
>       >lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her on 
>her face
>       >on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs and 
>slide it
>       >around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's just 
>money
>       >for them.
>       >
>       >If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with most of 
>the
>       >fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the wood 
>cheeks,
>       >etc.) still there!
>       >
>       >If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from 
>repair shops
>       >unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
>       >
>       >I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at MusicTek 
>(North
>       >Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on <eeek>.
>       >I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have gone 
>through
>       >these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can pay 
>them a
>       >"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast 
>track" of
>       >an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of the 
>mounting
>       >hardware.
>       >
>       >I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there for 5 
>months
>       >and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. It's 
>under 90
>       >day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 months 
>now - just
>       >to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly done 
>already!
>       >These people REALLY suck!
>       >   ----- Original Message -----
>       >   From: Richard Cohen
>       >   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>       >   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
>       >   Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>       >
>       >
>       >   yeah... got it!
>       >
>       >   no my problem is fixing the keys....
>       >
>       >   out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
>       >
>       >   someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
>       >
>       >   is this easy to do at home?
>       >
>       >   how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the work 
>is under
>       >   warranty?
>       >
>       >
>       >   thanks bro!
>       >
>       >   >From: "chromal" <chromal.dragon@...>
>       >   >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>       >   >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>       >   >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>       >   >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
>       >   >
>       >   >Richierich954,
>       >   >
>       >   >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you have
>       >   >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be 
>looking
>       >for...
>       >   >
>       >   >
>       >   >Good Luck,
>       >   >Ben
>       >   >
>       >   >
>       >   >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
>       >   ><richierich954@h...> wrote:
>       >   > >
>       >   > > hello everybody...
>       >   > >
>       >   > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 prong 
>IEC
>       >   >power cord.
>       >   > >
>       >   > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, and 
>nobody
>       >   >has them.
>       >   > >
>       >   > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is 
>greatly
>       >   >appreciated.
>       >   > >
>       >   > > thank you.
>       >   > >
>       >   > > 
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-22 by Scott A. Robb

Are you handy with a soldering iron at all? This should be very simple to repair. If not, do you know anyone who is?
It's great that you're getting results with the cleaning. I assume that this is the Mitsubishi keybed in this Korg then? Perhaps if you work on the black part that's inside the cup it'll get even more of 'em going.
Scott
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

I'm in Miami....

just an update on my restoration....

unscrewed the keyboard... lightly took off the flimsy, dusty cardboard
shieldings under the contact housing, cleaned all the contacts. plugged the
unit in... more keys worked than before... but not all...
turned the unit off... screwed all the major stuff back in... started to put
the outter casing together when i noticed that the two lines connected to
the power switch (which had previously been soldered) snapped right off from
the button!

to make a long story short... not only do i have the keys to worry about,
now i have 2 tortured power lines that need to be repaired.

i'm taking this to a shop when I hit the lotto.

it's a Korg DW8000... I'm better off saving my money and getting a MS2000...

or better yet, when I hit lotto, I'm getting a MiniMoog -- brand new!


>From: "Scott A. Robb"
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:42:09 -0700
>
>MessageGood point about the alcohol. My bad to assume that we'd all be on
>the same page.
>
>Re: the repair shops: Yes, I am certain that there are good tech's and
>shops out there (Kevin Lightner of Synthfool for one). I am just really
>anal about my stuff and I look long and hard for the best condition synth
>of a particular model and then spend even more time completely restoring it
>cosmetically and taking it apart completely and cleaning / lubing it
>refinishing the wood etc. Then to have some bozo F up my work, lose my
>hardware and then have to give him money for the privilage just REALLY
>burns my ass. Especially considering that it's so simple to take a couple
>of extra seconds to organize and take care handling the equipment.
>
>It's unfortunate but I have seen this happen more often than not.
>
>So um, you wouldn't happen to be in the L.A. area, would you?
>
>Scott
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Niver
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
> Be careful saying alcohol. Several different types, isopropyl,
>denatured, straight, etc. Soap and water normally work fine, just make sure
>you use some air to blow them dry or let them dry overnight. Would not
>suggest using anything very strong on the pc board contacts as you may ruin
>them, and then it's all over but the weeping and the wailing.
>
> As for the one thread reply about repair shops, don't condemn repairs in
>general because of one bad apple. I happen to take great pride in my work
>and try my best to get it turned around as quickly as possible, especially
>for a working pro. I also make sure I don't have any screws or parts left
>over and do a thorough check before it leaves the bench. There is a group
>called MITA that certifies techs. I am a certified MITA tech and a Master
>Certified Tech for one manufacturer and also certified by several major
>manufacturers who oversee the work you do on a regular basis.
>
> Keith Niver
> Master Certified Tech & Certified MITA tech
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@verizon.net]
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:58 AM
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
> Alcohol should work fine. The only Korg who's keybed I have looked at
>is the MS-20 so it's probably different than yours.
>
> If it's like the keybeds (mfg. by Mitsubishi) on the Korg Mono/Poly,
>Memorymoog and OB-8 take a look here for cleaning instructions:
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/keyclean.html
>
> Scott Rider is a brillian man but I would take slight issue with his
>suggestion to use an eraser on the contacts, this should not be necessary.
>You will want to use it (VERY GENTLY) on the black contact that is inside
>the rubber cup though and only a few gentle swipes. Hate to state the
>obvious but make sure you tet everything prior to buttoning it up.
>
>; I usually use alcohol followed by a contact enhancer but the latter is
>not required.
>
> Scott Robb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Cohen
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> ; Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
> yes a korg DW8000.
>
> so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid and
>clean
> the back of each key and the contact part of the synth engine...?
>
> should i use alcohol or water? special formula?
>
>
> >From: "Scott A. Robb"
> >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
> >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
> >
> ; >The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is
>this for
> >the Korg?
> >
> >Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but VERY
>simple.
> >If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for the
>most part,
> >these people don't give a crap about your property and will pile
>other gear
> >on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if
>you're
> >lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her on
>her face
> >on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs and
>slide it
> >around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's just
>money
> >for them.
> >
> >If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with most of
>the
> >fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the wood
>cheeks,
> >etc.) still there!
> >
> >If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from
>repair shops
> >unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
> >
> >I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at MusicTek
>(North
> >Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on .
> >I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have gone
>through
> ; >these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can pay
>them a
> >"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast
>track" of
> >an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of the
>mounting
> >hardware.
> >
> >I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there for 5
>months
> >and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. It's
>under 90
> >day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 months
>now - just
> >to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly done
>already!
> >These people REALLY suck!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard Cohen
> > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
> >
> >
> > yeah... got it!
> >
> > no my problem is fixing the keys....
> >
> ; > out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
> >
> > someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
> >
> > is this easy to do at home?
> >
> > how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the work
>is under
> ; > warranty?
> >
> ; >
> > ; thanks bro!
> >
>; > >From: "chromal"
> ; > >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
> > >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
> > >
> > >Richierich954,
> ; > >
> ; > >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you have
> > >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be
>looking
> >for...
> > >
> > >
> > >Good Luck,
> > >Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
> ; > > wrote:
>; > > >
> > > > hello everybody...
> > > >
> > > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 prong
>IEC
> > >power cord.
> > > >
> > ; > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, and
>nobody
> > >has them.
> > > >
> > > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is
>greatly
> > >appreciated.
> > > >
> > ; > > thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-22 by Keith Niver

Steve, 
Go to www.MITAtechs.com. and look at the tech list. I'm sure you'll find at
least one.
 
Keith Niver
certified MITA tech
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ball [mailto:sball2@...] 
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 5:31 AM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts


Keith;
 
Out of curiosity, where are you located?   I'm always looking for a good
synth tech here in the Cincinnati (Ohio) area.
 
Steve,
Cincinnati

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-22 by Keith Niver

MITA stand for Musical Instrument Technicians Association, International. We
are all electronic instrument repair techs, and some of us also piano techs.
Some of us are certified by MITA and others are certified by individual
manufacturers, and some, like myself, are certified by both. A couple of
manufacturers used to have a Master Certification, but most of those are
gone. I was, am, a master certified Technician for Baldwin/Wurlitzer, also
certified by Roland and Yamaha, and authorized service for several others.
 
Keith Niver
Certified MITA tech
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@...] 
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:39 PM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts


Oh god, don't even get me started on the courier companies!   ;-)
 
Do you have a specialty? BTW, what is MITA?
 
Scott

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-23 by Richard Cohen

black part that's inside the cup?!?!?


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 08:55:59 -0700
>
>Are you handy with a soldering iron at all? This should be very simple to 
>repair. If not, do you know anyone who is?
>
>It's great that you're getting results with the cleaning. I assume that 
>this is the Mitsubishi keybed in this Korg then? Perhaps if you work on the 
>black part that's inside the cup it'll get even more of 'em going.
>
>Scott
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Richard Cohen
>   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 5:20 AM
>   Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
>   I'm in Miami....
>
>   just an update on my restoration....
>
>   unscrewed the keyboard... lightly took off the flimsy, dusty cardboard
>   shieldings under the contact housing, cleaned all the contacts.  plugged 
>the
>   unit in... more keys worked than before... but not all...
>   turned the unit off... screwed all the major stuff back in... started to 
>put
>   the outter casing together when i noticed that the two lines connected 
>to
>   the power switch (which had previously been soldered) snapped right off 
>from
>   the button!
>
>   to make a long story short... not only do i have the keys to worry 
>about,
>   now i have 2 tortured power lines that need to be repaired.
>
>   i'm taking this to a shop when I hit the lotto.
>
>   it's a Korg DW8000... I'm better off saving my money and getting a 
>MS2000...
>
>   or better yet, when I hit lotto, I'm getting a MiniMoog -- brand new!
>
>
>   >From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>   >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>   >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>   >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:42:09 -0700
>   >
>   >MessageGood point about the alcohol. My bad to assume that we'd all be 
>on
>   >the same page.
>   >
>   >Re: the repair shops: Yes, I am certain that there are good tech's and
>   >shops out there (Kevin Lightner of Synthfool for one). I am just really
>   >anal about my stuff and I look long and hard for the best condition 
>synth
>   >of a particular model and then spend even more time completely 
>restoring it
>   >cosmetically and taking it apart completely and cleaning / lubing it
>   >refinishing the wood etc. Then to have some bozo F up my work, lose my
>   >hardware and then have to give him money for the privilage just REALLY
>   >burns my ass. Especially considering that it's so simple to take a 
>couple
>   >of extra seconds to organize and take care handling the equipment.
>   >
>   >It's unfortunate but I have seen this happen more often than not.
>   >
>   >So um, you wouldn't happen to be in the L.A. area, would you?
>   >
>   >Scott
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Keith Niver
>   >   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:37 PM
>   >   Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>   >
>   >
>   >   Be careful saying alcohol. Several different types, isopropyl,
>   >denatured, straight, etc. Soap and water normally work fine, just make 
>sure
>   >you use some air to blow them dry or let them dry overnight. Would not
>   >suggest using anything very strong on the pc board contacts as you may 
>ruin
>   >them, and then it's all over but the weeping and the wailing.
>   >
>   >   As for the one thread reply about repair shops, don't condemn 
>repairs in
>   >general because of one bad apple. I happen to take great pride in my 
>work
>   >and try my best to get it turned around as quickly as possible, 
>especially
>   >for a working pro. I also make sure I don't have any screws or parts 
>left
>   >over and do a thorough check before it leaves the bench. There is a 
>group
>   >called MITA that certifies techs. I am a certified MITA tech and a 
>Master
>   >Certified Tech for one manufacturer and also certified by several major
>   >manufacturers who oversee the work you do on a regular basis.
>   >
>   >   Keith Niver
>   >   Master Certified Tech & Certified MITA tech
>   >     -----Original Message-----
>   >     From: Scott A. Robb [mailto:soul.lux@...]
>   >     Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:58 AM
>   >     To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >     Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>   >
>   >
>   >     Alcohol should work fine. The only Korg who's keybed I have looked 
>at
>   >is the MS-20 so it's probably different than yours.
>   >
>   >     If it's like the keybeds (mfg. by Mitsubishi) on the Korg 
>Mono/Poly,
>   >Memorymoog and OB-8 take a look here for cleaning instructions:
>   >     http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/keyclean.html
>   >
>   >     Scott Rider is a brillian man but I would take slight issue with 
>his
>   >suggestion to use an eraser on the contacts, this should not be 
>necessary.
>   >You will want to use it (VERY GENTLY) on the black contact that is 
>inside
>   >the rubber cup though and only a few gentle swipes. Hate to state the
>   >obvious but make sure you tet everything prior to buttoning it up.
>   >
>   >     I usually use alcohol followed by a contact enhancer but the 
>latter is
>   >not required.
>   >
>   >     Scott Robb
>   >       ----- Original Message -----
>   >       From: Richard Cohen
>   >       To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >       Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:41 AM
>   >       Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>   >
>   >
>   >       yes a korg DW8000.
>   >
>   >       so i take it apart, and use cotton swabs and some sort of liquid 
>and
>   >clean
>   >       the back of each key and the contact part of the synth 
>engine...?
>   >
>   >       should i use alcohol or water?  special formula?
>   >
>   >
>   >       >From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>   >       >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >       >To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>   >       >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>   >       >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:30:02 -0700
>   >       >
>   >       >The thread is a little hazy (it's early, it could be me) but is
>   >this for
>   >       >the Korg?
>   >       >
>   >       >Usually, cleaning the contacts is slightly time consuming but 
>VERY
>   >simple.
>   >       >If you bring it somewhere else, you have to realize that for 
>the
>   >most part,
>   >       >these people don't give a crap about your property and will 
>pile
>   >other gear
>   >       >on top of it while it sets on a shelf for weeks (only weeks if
>   >you're
>   >       >lucky, could be months). Once they work on it they'll lay her 
>on
>   >her face
>   >       >on a carpeted bench full of bits of wire lead and solder globs 
>and
>   >slide it
>   >       >around etc. IOW, most don't give a crap about your stuff, it's 
>just
>   >money
>   >       >for them.
>   >       >
>   >       >If you're really lucky, you'll even get your unit back with 
>most of
>   >the
>   >       >fasteners (like the screws to close the cabinet or hold on the 
>wood
>   >cheeks,
>   >       >etc.) still there!
>   >       >
>   >       >If at all possible, do this stuff yourself and stay away from
>   >repair shops
>   >       >unless you have absolutely NO OTHER alternative.
>   >       >
>   >       >I just got a white face Odyssey that the twit's over at 
>MusicTek
>   >(North
>   >       >Hollywood, Ca) put some healthy scratches on <eeek>.
>   >       >I've been unfortunate enough to buy two Oberheim's that have 
>gone
>   >through
>   >       >these people that both took FIVE months to get back! You can 
>pay
>   >them a
>   >       >"premium" rate (I think it's $180 an hour) and get on the "fast
>   >track" of
>   >       >an 8 week turn around. Both Obies were missin quite a bit of 
>the
>   >mounting
>   >       >hardware.
>   >       >
>   >       >I am going tomorrow to help someone that had their OB-8 there 
>for 5
>   >months
>   >       >and got it back and they had not cleaned all of the contacts. 
>It's
>   >under 90
>   >       >day warranty so he took it back and MusicTek has had it 3 
>months
>   >now - just
>   >       >to clean the contacts which they were paid to have supposedly 
>done
>   >already!
>   >       >These people REALLY suck!
>   >       >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >       >   From: Richard Cohen
>   >       >   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >       >   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:35 AM
>   >       >   Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>   >       >
>   >       >
>   >       >   yeah... got it!
>   >       >
>   >       >   no my problem is fixing the keys....
>   >       >
>   >       >   out of a 61 note keyboard only about 9 work.
>   >       >
>   >       >   someone mentioned cleaning the contacts...
>   >       >
>   >       >   is this easy to do at home?
>   >       >
>   >       >   how much would it be to get it done at samash... where the 
>work
>   >is under
>   >       >   warranty?
>   >       >
>   >       >
>   >       >   thanks bro!
>   >       >
>   >       >   >From: "chromal" <chromal.dragon@...>
>   >       >   >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >       >   >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >       >   >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: AC POWER CORD
>   >       >   >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:55:47 -0000
>   >       >   >
>   >       >   >Richierich954,
>   >       >   >
>   >       >   >you said you checked out hosa gear, but I wonder if you 
>have
>   >       >   >considered their PWC-178, which sounds like what you may be
>   >looking
>   >       >for...
>   >       >   >
>   >       >   >
>   >       >   >Good Luck,
>   >       >   >Ben
>   >       >   >
>   >       >   >
>   >       >   >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Cohen"
>   >       >   ><richierich954@h...> wrote:
>   >       >   > >
>   >       >   > > hello everybody...
>   >       >   > >
>   >       >   > > i just bought a used korg dw8000 (as is) and need a 2 
>prong
>   >IEC
>   >       >   >power cord.
>   >       >   > >
>   >       >   > > i tried radio shack, hosa, guitar center, music stores, 
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>   >nobody
>   >       >   >has them.
>   >       >   > >
>   >       >   > > any suggestions as to where i can get one of these is
>   >greatly
>   >       >   >appreciated.
>   >       >   > >
>   >       >   > > thank you.
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-23 by Ron Bell

I have a DW-8000, the action and contacts are not very robust. The key contacts are not the little rubber cups arranged in strips, they are metal strips about an inch or so long with two contact points. I have found cleaning them with alchohol or a good contact cleaner helps with dead notes but the velocity sensitivity never seems to work properly on all the keys. I have "Carefully" bent the key contacts so that they all play properly but this lasts about a week before they are out of whack again. Between the very loud clacky action and the contact problems I rarely use this board, although I bought it used and the previous owner may have "hammered" on it for years wearing it out.
Cheers,
Ron Bell.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

black part that's inside the cup?!?!?


>From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 08:55:59 -0700
>
>Are you handy with a soldering iron at all? This should be very simple to
>repair. If not, do you know anyone who is?
>
>It's great that you're getting results with the cleaning. I assume that
>this is the Mitsubishi keybed in this Korg then? Perhaps if you work on the
>black part that's inside the cup it'll get even more of 'em going.
>
>Scott

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts

2003-06-23 by Richard Cohen

i live in miami where its very humid....

i noticed that on most of the metal contacts AND strips, there was oxidation 
or rust.

i am seriously contemplating shelving this unit and saving for a Korg Poly61 
that is on sale for $300.

anybody have any word on these units... tech problems, overall sound?

>From: Ron Bell <worthogis@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:42:29 -0700
>
>  I have a DW-8000, the action and contacts are not very robust. The key 
>contacts are not  the little rubber cups arranged in strips, they are metal 
>strips about an inch or so long with two contact points. I have found 
>cleaning them with alchohol or a good contact cleaner helps with dead notes 
>but the velocity sensitivity never seems to work properly on all the keys. 
>I have  "Carefully" bent the key contacts so that they all play properly 
>but this lasts about a week before they are out of whack again. Between the 
>very loud clacky action and the contact problems I rarely use this board, 
>although I bought it used and the previous owner may have "hammered" on it 
>for years wearing it out.
>  Cheers,
>  Ron Bell.
>----- Original Message -----
>   From: Richard Cohen
>   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:34 PM
>   Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>
>
>   black part that's inside the cup?!?!?
>
>
>   >From: "Scott A. Robb" <soul.lux@...>
>   >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>   >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] cleaning keyboard contacts
>   >Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 08:55:59 -0700
>   >
>   >Are you handy with a soldering iron at all? This should be very simple 
>to
>   >repair. If not, do you know anyone who is?
>   >
>   >It's great that you're getting results with the cleaning. I assume that
>   >this is the Mitsubishi keybed in this Korg then? Perhaps if you work on 
>the
>   >black part that's inside the cup it'll get even more of 'em going.
>   >
>   >Scott

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