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Replacement CPU chips available

Replacement CPU chips available

2007-09-17 by cavernosum7

Finally gotten around to securing programmable versions of the 8040 &
8049 CPU chips used on the Polysix Processor and Voice boards; and
after a long search, found an appropriate programmer.

If anyone needs replacements for either of these, I can offer them for
$30 each, plus shipping. These are new old stock 8748 & 8749 chips,
programmed with the original Korg data and tested in my Polysix.

HOWEVER, be aware that most of the repair problems you will encounter
in a Polysix (mainly due to battery leakage) will not be solved by new
CPU chips. These are not offered as a cure-all; just for people who
KNOW that this is what they need.

~GMM
analogsynthservice.com

Re: [PolySix] Replacement CPU chips available

2007-09-17 by Chris Goumas

Do you do repairs on Polysixes and if so where are you located? I've to a Polysix with what I think is factory installed midi and the output is weak and what I would call distorted. The patches change just fine and everything except for the sound seems to be fine.

I'm not in a big hurry to fix it but would like to get it done at some point.

cavernosum7 <klosmon@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Finally gotten around to securing programmable versions of the 8040 &
8049 CPU chips used on the Polysix Processor and Voice boards; and
after a long search, found an appropriate programmer.

If anyone needs replacements for either of these, I can offer them for
$30 each, plus shipping. These are new old stock 8748 & 8749 chips,
programmed with the original Korg data and tested in my Polysix.

HOWEVER, be aware that most of the repair problems you will encounter
in a Polysix (mainly due to battery leakage) will not be solved by new
CPU chips. These are not offered as a cure-all; just for people who
KNOW that this is what they need.

~GMM
analogsynthservice.com






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Re: [PolySix] Replacement CPU chips available

2007-09-17 by klosmon

I do -- I've done about 30 at last count.

I'm in Oakland, CA.

Question: is the output to the headphone jack have the same problem?
When tracking down output problems, remember that the sound goes from
the voice board through the effects board before reaching the output
jacks; also, the CPU board has some effect on the effect board levels.

Also, it's not uncommon for the volume pot to be bad, giving scratchy
or diminished output.
~G
analogsynthervice.com
At 07:05 AM 9/17/2007, you wrote:

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>Do you do repairs on Polysixes and if so where are you located? I've
>to a Polysix with what I think is factory installed midi and the
>output is weak and what I would call distorted. The patches change
>just fine and everything except for the sound seems to be fine.
>
>I'm not in a big hurry to fix it but would like to get it done at some point.
>
>cavernosum7 <<mailto:klosmon%40sbcglobal.net>klosmon@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Finally gotten around to securing programmable versions of the 8040 &
>8049 CPU chips used on the Polysix Processor and Voice boards; and
>after a long search, found an appropriate programmer.
>
>If anyone needs replacements for either of these, I can offer them for
>$30 each, plus shipping. These are new old stock 8748 & 8749 chips,
>programmed with the original Korg data and tested in my Polysix.
>
>HOWEVER, be aware that most of the repair problems you will encounter
>in a Polysix (mainly due to battery leakage) will not be solved by new
>CPU chips. These are not offered as a cure-all; just for people who
>KNOW that this is what they need.
>
>~GMM
>analogsynthservice.com
>
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Replacement CPU chips available

2007-10-14 by cavernosum7

Michael Grossman wrote:
>Cavernosum, I bought a broken polysix which plays in tune and sounds
>great except the programmer is flakey. Upon probing IC22-13 (DB1) I
>noticed the pin has very low amplitude (<2V). I thought perhaps the
RAM >chip might be bad so I pulled IC22-13 out of the socket and
confirmed >the amplitude is still low. I am now convinced the
uPD8048-245 is bad.

Not necessarily. Have you checked IC31? On units with battery
leakage, this is one of the most commonly damaged ICs. Try replacing
that; if it still doesn't work, I'll sell you a new CPU.

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>I would also like to buy a replacement 1kx4 static ram (TC5514APL-3)
if >available.

Good news: you can use a 6514 RAM chip and it works exactly the same.
These can be ordered from Jameco Electronics for about $4 each;
Jameco part number 43238.

~GMM

Re: Replacement CPU chips available

2007-10-15 by mgrossm1

Cavernosum, yes I changed IC31 first before I got the scope out, made
no difference. When I probed the CPU's data bus, I found DB1 had very
low amplitude when compared to the other data bits.

As a test, I slightly bent the CPU's data pins so when I plugged the
CPU back in, they did not make contact with the socket. I probed each
pin and confirmed DB1 still exhibited low amplitude while the other
data bits besides DB1 were valid TTL levels.

If a defect on the board other than the CPU was at fault my thinking
is DB1 would also drive valid TTL levels hanging in free space.

My understanding is the CPU has a multiplexed address/data bus so the
data bus must first output the address until it is latched by the
14042s which actually drives the RAM address bus. Do you think this
analysis is valid?

I have sent my contact info to you in a separate email. Thanks for the
help with the 6514 RAM chip.

Mike

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--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "cavernosum7" <klosmon@...> wrote:
>
> Michael Grossman wrote:
> >Cavernosum, I bought a broken polysix which plays in tune and sounds
> >great except the programmer is flakey. Upon probing IC22-13 (DB1) I
> >noticed the pin has very low amplitude (<2V). I thought perhaps the
> RAM >chip might be bad so I pulled IC22-13 out of the socket and
> confirmed >the amplitude is still low. I am now convinced the
> uPD8048-245 is bad.
>
> Not necessarily. Have you checked IC31? On units with battery
> leakage, this is one of the most commonly damaged ICs. Try replacing
> that; if it still doesn't work, I'll sell you a new CPU.
>
> >I would also like to buy a replacement 1kx4 static ram (TC5514APL-3)
> if >available.
>
> Good news: you can use a 6514 RAM chip and it works exactly the same.
> These can be ordered from Jameco Electronics for about $4 each;
> Jameco part number 43238.
>
> ~GMM
>

Re: Replacement CPU chips available

2007-10-18 by mgrossm1

Greg, the CPU fixed my polysix. It was very nice of you to make these
otherwise unobtainable CPUs available. BTW, thank you for sending the
chip so fast. What a cool synth :)

Best regards,
Mike

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--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "mgrossm1" <mgrossm1@...> wrote:
>
> Cavernosum, yes I changed IC31 first before I got the scope out, made
> no difference. When I probed the CPU's data bus, I found DB1 had very
> low amplitude when compared to the other data bits.
>
> As a test, I slightly bent the CPU's data pins so when I plugged the
> CPU back in, they did not make contact with the socket. I probed each
> pin and confirmed DB1 still exhibited low amplitude while the other
> data bits besides DB1 were valid TTL levels.
>
> If a defect on the board other than the CPU was at fault my thinking
> is DB1 would also drive valid TTL levels hanging in free space.
>
> My understanding is the CPU has a multiplexed address/data bus so the
> data bus must first output the address until it is latched by the
> 14042s which actually drives the RAM address bus. Do you think this
> analysis is valid?
>
> I have sent my contact info to you in a separate email. Thanks for the
> help with the 6514 RAM chip.
>
> Mike
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "cavernosum7" <klosmon@> wrote:
> >
> > Michael Grossman wrote:
> > >Cavernosum, I bought a broken polysix which plays in tune and sounds
> > >great except the programmer is flakey. Upon probing IC22-13 (DB1) I
> > >noticed the pin has very low amplitude (<2V). I thought perhaps the
> > RAM >chip might be bad so I pulled IC22-13 out of the socket and
> > confirmed >the amplitude is still low. I am now convinced the
> > uPD8048-245 is bad.
> >
> > Not necessarily. Have you checked IC31? On units with battery
> > leakage, this is one of the most commonly damaged ICs. Try replacing
> > that; if it still doesn't work, I'll sell you a new CPU.
> >
> > >I would also like to buy a replacement 1kx4 static ram (TC5514APL-3)
> > if >available.
> >
> > Good news: you can use a 6514 RAM chip and it works exactly the same.
> > These can be ordered from Jameco Electronics for about $4 each;
> > Jameco part number 43238.
> >
> > ~GMM
> >
>

Re: [PolySix] Re: Replacement CPU chips available

2007-10-18 by Jan-Ahrent Czmok

On 18.10.2007, at 09:11, mgrossm1 wrote:

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> Greg, the CPU fixed my polysix. It was very nice of you to make these
> otherwise unobtainable CPUs available. BTW, thank you for sending the
> chip so fast. What a cool synth :)
>
> Best regards,
> Mike

Greg,

can you contact me off-list to arrange a CPU for me ? (and maybe memory)
as i am based in germany..

thanks in advance

--jan

Re: Replacement CPU chips available

2007-10-25 by gmanca101

Sorry if this is a simple question, but I was wondering after looking
at the Ram usage: why does the 8049 access the ram with an address
latch connecting to A1-A8 where as it's an A0-A9 device? Is it still
using all 10 addresses or only 8?

Thanks in advance!


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--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "cavernosum7" <klosmon@...> wrote:
>
> Michael Grossman wrote:
> >Cavernosum, I bought a broken polysix which plays in tune and sounds
> >great except the programmer is flakey. Upon probing IC22-13 (DB1) I
> >noticed the pin has very low amplitude (<2V). I thought perhaps the
> RAM >chip might be bad so I pulled IC22-13 out of the socket and
> confirmed >the amplitude is still low. I am now convinced the
> uPD8048-245 is bad.
>
> Not necessarily. Have you checked IC31? On units with battery
> leakage, this is one of the most commonly damaged ICs. Try replacing
> that; if it still doesn't work, I'll sell you a new CPU.
>
> >I would also like to buy a replacement 1kx4 static ram (TC5514APL-3)
> if >available.
>
> Good news: you can use a 6514 RAM chip and it works exactly the same.
> These can be ordered from Jameco Electronics for about $4 each;
> Jameco part number 43238.
>
> ~GMM
>