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----- Original Message -----

From: Rory McDonald

To: 'oldsynths@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:40 AM

Subject: [oldsynths] FW: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?

Forwarded from Oldsynth...

-----Original Message-----
From: toneboy22 [mailto:tbarros@...]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:44 AM
To: oldsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?

Hey OLDsynthers,

New 2 this list.

Not much going on with OLDsynth & OLDsynthS (?)

Everyone quit building?   heh heh
(know this can't B true)

Re: Joysticks-----

As i recall, Atari joysticks were excentially 4 momentary
buttons;  Apple joys were pots that controlled a timing
capacator;  the 6502 read the "time"; sort of like PWM
in reverse(?)

Lots of electronic surplus compainies have 2-axis JSs around;
the resistor(pot) values vary from say 5K to 100K;
put a controlled amt of V in the top; other side to GND;
Or,  use resistors top and bottom to "range" it in;
Or, use switches to move range up and down;
first decide what U want the end2end voltage swing 2 B;
if U dedicate 1 or 2 LM317s for the JS's pwr sup, U don't
have to worry about range switches;

AFN
tb22

--- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weigel" <sounddoctorin@m...> wrote:
> I just got back on the group so I thought I'd wait a few days and
see what people had been talking about. Nothing it appears. :-) Oh
well, I've been enjoying working with a new band here. Real good
guitarist and a couple younger guys on bass and drums who are fitting
in real well. Nice age range...47, 42, 23, 22 or like that. Anyway
working on a lot of semi-oldies...Oya Coma Va, Rikki, In God's
Country, Diamonds on the Soles of her shoes, and some SRV stuff to
name a few.
> Anyway I finally got this Moog Opus 3 fixed up well and I'm
trying to use it on some things, programmed a nice organ for Oya Coma
Va and some of the other songs we're doing on the Korg
Wavestation...though the guy has a B3 with two leslie's I practise on.
We'll likely haul a leslie to gigs most of the time. He also has a
CX-3 we might use sometimes.
> I'd love to get back to the analog synth project but it's been
too busy. Someone was dumping a nice wood box that's about the right
size for the monster I want to build. Hopefully get back to it some
day soon.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rory McDonald
> To: 'oldsynths@yahoogroups.com'
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:40 AM
> Subject: [oldsynths] FW: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?
>
>
> Forwarded from Oldsynth...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: toneboy22 [mailto:tbarros@c...]
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:44 AM
> To: oldsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?
>
>
> Hey OLDsynthers,
>
> New 2 this list.
>
> Not much going on with OLDsynth & OLDsynthS (?)
>
> Everyone quit building? heh heh
> (know this can't B true)
>
> Re: Joysticks-----
>
> As i recall, Atari joysticks were excentially 4 momentary
> buttons; Apple joys were pots that controlled a timing
> capacator; the 6502 read the "time"; sort of like PWM
> in reverse(?)
>
> Lots of electronic surplus compainies have 2-axis JSs around;
> the resistor(pot) values vary from say 5K to 100K;
> put a controlled amt of V in the top; other side to GND;
> Or, use resistors top and bottom to "range" it in;
> Or, use switches to move range up and down;
> first decide what U want the end2end voltage swing 2 B;
> if U dedicate 1 or 2 LM317s for the JS's pwr sup, U don't
> have to worry about range switches;
>
> AFN
> tb22

----- Original Message -----
From: toneboy22 <tbarros@...>
To: <oldsynths@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:49 PM
Subject: [oldsynths] Re: update


> Hey SoundDR & all,
>
> i've been working on restoring a Paia Gnome.
>
Huh, never worked with Paia gear. See it some day I'm sure.

> Was interested in the resistance strip.
>
> Got it all working, except the A/R is a little screwy.
>
Attack/Release I presume? I have some strange attack parameters on the
Crumar Performer I use. I have diagrams just haven't taken time to figure
out why it gets sssllloooow so fast. Likely a capacitor has drifted way out
of value tolerences so that it's acting 10X as big as it should be. I'll
know if all the sudden it goes the other way then totally dies (makes it
real fast all the time). -Bob


> found a wrong resistor value....
>
> Didnt help ..
>
> thought i'd read this list.
>
> sure is s.....l......o.....w......t...o...d...a...y...
>
> AFN
> tb
>
>
>
> --- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weigel" <sounddoctorin@m...> wrote:
> > I just got back on the group so I thought I'd wait a few days and
> see what people had been talking about. Nothing it appears. :-) Oh
> well, I've been enjoying working with a new band here. Real good
> guitarist and a couple younger guys on bass and drums who are fitting
> in real well. Nice age range...47, 42, 23, 22 or like that. Anyway
> working on a lot of semi-oldies...Oya Coma Va, Rikki, In God's
> Country, Diamonds on the Soles of her shoes, and some SRV stuff to
> name a few.
> > Anyway I finally got this Moog Opus 3 fixed up well and I'm
> trying to use it on some things, programmed a nice organ for Oya Coma
> Va and some of the other songs we're doing on the Korg
> Wavestation...though the guy has a B3 with two leslie's I practise on.
> We'll likely haul a leslie to gigs most of the time. He also has a
> CX-3 we might use sometimes.
> > I'd love to get back to the analog synth project but it's been
> too busy. Someone was dumping a nice wood box that's about the right
> size for the monster I want to build. Hopefully get back to it some
> day soon.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rory McDonald
> > To: 'oldsynths@yahoogroups.com'
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:40 AM
> > Subject: [oldsynths] FW: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?
> >
> >
> > Forwarded from Oldsynth...
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: toneboy22 [mailto:tbarros@c...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:44 AM
> > To: oldsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?
> >
> >
> > Hey OLDsynthers,
> >
> > New 2 this list.
> >
> > Not much going on with OLDsynth & OLDsynthS (?)
> >
> > Everyone quit building? heh heh
> > (know this can't B true)
> >
> > Re: Joysticks-----
> >
> > As i recall, Atari joysticks were excentially 4 momentary
> > buttons; Apple joys were pots that controlled a timing
> > capacator; the 6502 read the "time"; sort of like PWM
> > in reverse(?)
> >
> > Lots of electronic surplus compainies have 2-axis JSs around;
> > the resistor(pot) values vary from say 5K to 100K;
> > put a controlled amt of V in the top; other side to GND;
> > Or, use resistors top and bottom to "range" it in;
> > Or, use switches to move range up and down;
> > first decide what U want the end2end voltage swing 2 B;
> > if U dedicate 1 or 2 LM317s for the JS's pwr sup, U don't
> > have to worry about range switches;
> >
> > AFN
> > tb22
>
>
>
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>
>

--- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weigel" <sounddoctorin@m...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: toneboy22 <tbarros@c...>
> To: <oldsynths@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:49 PM
> Subject: [oldsynths] Re: update
>
>
> > Hey SoundDR & all,
> >
> > i've been working on restoring a Paia Gnome.
> >
> Huh, never worked with Paia gear. See it some day I'm sure.
>
> > Was interested in the resistance strip.
> >
> > Got it all working, except the A/R is a little screwy.
> >
> Attack/Release I presume? I have some strange attack parameters on the
> Crumar Performer I use. I have diagrams just haven't taken time to
figure
> out why it gets sssllloooow so fast. Likely a capacitor has drifted
way out
> of value tolerences so that it's acting 10X as big as it should be.
I'll
> know if all the sudden it goes the other way then totally dies (makes it
> real fast all the time). -Bob
>
>
> > found a wrong resistor value....
> >
> > Didnt help ..
> >
> > thought i'd read this list.
> >
> > sure is s.....l......o.....w......t...o...d...a...y...
> >
> > AFN
> > tb
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weigel"
<sounddoctorin@m...> wrote:
> > > I just got back on the group so I thought I'd wait a few days and
> > see what people had been talking about. Nothing it appears. :-) Oh
> > well, I've been enjoying working with a new band here. Real good
> > guitarist and a couple younger guys on bass and drums who are fitting
> > in real well. Nice age range...47, 42, 23, 22 or like that. Anyway
> > working on a lot of semi-oldies...Oya Coma Va, Rikki, In God's
> > Country, Diamonds on the Soles of her shoes, and some SRV stuff to
> > name a few.
> > > Anyway I finally got this Moog Opus 3 fixed up well and I'm
> > trying to use it on some things, programmed a nice organ for Oya Coma
> > Va and some of the other songs we're doing on the Korg
> > Wavestation...though the guy has a B3 with two leslie's I practise on.
> > We'll likely haul a leslie to gigs most of the time. He also has a
> > CX-3 we might use sometimes.
> > > I'd love to get back to the analog synth project but it's been
> > too busy. Someone was dumping a nice wood box that's about the right
> > size for the monster I want to build. Hopefully get back to it some
> > day soon.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Rory McDonald
> > > To: 'oldsynths@yahoogroups.com'
> > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:40 AM
> > > Subject: [oldsynths] FW: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?
> > >
> > >
> > > Forwarded from Oldsynth...
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: toneboy22 [mailto:tbarros@c...]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:44 AM
> > > To: oldsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey OLDsynthers,
> > >
> > > New 2 this list.
> > >
> > > Not much going on with OLDsynth & OLDsynthS (?)
> > >
> > > Everyone quit building? heh heh
> > > (know this can't B true)
> > >
> > > Re: Joysticks-----
> > >
> > > As i recall, Atari joysticks were excentially 4 momentary
> > > buttons; Apple joys were pots that controlled a timing
> > > capacator; the 6502 read the "time"; sort of like PWM
> > > in reverse(?)
> > >
> > > Lots of electronic surplus compainies have 2-axis JSs around;
> > > the resistor(pot) values vary from say 5K to 100K;
> > > put a controlled amt of V in the top; other side to GND;
> > > Or, use resistors top and bottom to "range" it in;
> > > Or, use switches to move range up and down;
> > > first decide what U want the end2end voltage swing 2 B;
> > > if U dedicate 1 or 2 LM317s for the JS's pwr sup, U don't
> > > have to worry about range switches;
> > >
> > > AFN
> > > tb22
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > oldsynths-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >

----- Original Message -----
From: toneboy22 <tbarros@...>
To: <oldsynths@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:12 PM
Subject: [oldsynths] Re: update


>
> check PAIA out @
>
> www.paia.com
>
> easy to build audio and synthesizer kits.
> they've got tube preamps too.
> they've been around since 1975!
>
> I'm *still* building and learning.
> tb
>
>
> --- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weigel" <sounddoctorin@m...> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: toneboy22 <tbarros@c...>
> > To: <oldsynths@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:49 PM
> > Subject: [oldsynths] Re: update
> >
> >
> > > Hey SoundDR & all,
> > >
> > > i've been working on restoring a Paia Gnome.
> > >
> > Huh, never worked with Paia gear. See it some day I'm sure.
> >
> > > Was interested in the resistance strip.
> > >
> > > Got it all working, except the A/R is a little screwy.
> > >
> > Attack/Release I presume? I have some strange attack parameters on the
> > Crumar Performer I use. I have diagrams just haven't taken time to
> figure
> > out why it gets sssllloooow so fast. Likely a capacitor has drifted
> way out
> > of value tolerences so that it's acting 10X as big as it should be.
> I'll
> > know if all the sudden it goes the other way then totally dies (makes it
> > real fast all the time). -Bob
> >
> >
> > > found a wrong resistor value....
> > >
> > > Didnt help ..
> > >
> > > thought i'd read this list.
> > >
> > > sure is s.....l......o.....w......t...o...d...a...y...
> > >
> > > AFN
> > > tb
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weigel"
> <sounddoctorin@m...> wrote:
> > > > I just got back on the group so I thought I'd wait a few days and
> > > see what people had been talking about. Nothing it appears. :-) Oh
> > > well, I've been enjoying working with a new band here. Real good
> > > guitarist and a couple younger guys on bass and drums who are fitting
> > > in real well. Nice age range...47, 42, 23, 22 or like that. Anyway
> > > working on a lot of semi-oldies...Oya Coma Va, Rikki, In God's
> > > Country, Diamonds on the Soles of her shoes, and some SRV stuff to
> > > name a few.
> > > > Anyway I finally got this Moog Opus 3 fixed up well and I'm
> > > trying to use it on some things, programmed a nice organ for Oya Coma
> > > Va and some of the other songs we're doing on the Korg
> > > Wavestation...though the guy has a B3 with two leslie's I practise on.
> > > We'll likely haul a leslie to gigs most of the time. He also has a
> > > CX-3 we might use sometimes.
> > > > I'd love to get back to the analog synth project but it's been
> > > too busy. Someone was dumping a nice wood box that's about the right
> > > size for the monster I want to build. Hopefully get back to it some
> > > day soon.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Rory McDonald
> > > > To: 'oldsynths@yahoogroups.com'
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:40 AM
> > > > Subject: [oldsynths] FW: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Forwarded from Oldsynth...
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: toneboy22 [mailto:tbarros@c...]
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:44 AM
> > > > To: oldsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [oldsynth] Re: Joystick vendor?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey OLDsynthers,
> > > >
> > > > New 2 this list.
> > > >
> > > > Not much going on with OLDsynth & OLDsynthS (?)
> > > >
> > > > Everyone quit building? heh heh
> > > > (know this can't B true)
> > > >
> > > > Re: Joysticks-----
> > > >
> > > > As i recall, Atari joysticks were excentially 4 momentary
> > > > buttons; Apple joys were pots that controlled a timing
> > > > capacator; the 6502 read the "time"; sort of like PWM
> > > > in reverse(?)
> > > >
> > > > Lots of electronic surplus compainies have 2-axis JSs around;
> > > > the resistor(pot) values vary from say 5K to 100K;
> > > > put a controlled amt of V in the top; other side to GND;
> > > > Or, use resistors top and bottom to "range" it in;
> > > > Or, use switches to move range up and down;
> > > > first decide what U want the end2end voltage swing 2 B;
> > > > if U dedicate 1 or 2 LM317s for the JS's pwr sup, U don't
> > > > have to worry about range switches;
> > > >
> > > > AFN
> > > > tb22
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > oldsynths-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> oldsynths-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

--- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, Rory McDonald <rmcdonald@w...> wrote:
> I have the Gnome docs if you need a copy.
> Rory McDonald
> Oldsynths Moderator