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Re: [[oldsynths] Re: Korg Wavestation]

Re: [[oldsynths] Re: Korg Wavestation]

2003-10-06 by Robert

Those of us who use wavestation still argue that it's one of the most
effective synths on the planet. Here's why

1) the sample library is ordered largely around building block sounds attained
from prophet VS and other analog synths.

2) a lot of depth possible in how the sounds are layered.

3) simple filtering that doesn't do stuff that sounds horribly unnatural when
pasted over the root sounds

4) a LOT of expressive control afforded...interacting mod wheel, pedals, vel,
AT, and vector stick to even arrange where a wavesequence is entered
for instance...and to control various key parameters of the...

5) nice fx! WS was noted by reviewers as being one of the first keyboards to
have a really decent fx environment. Blew away the Yamaha SY77 for instance
which had just been reviewed by keyboard.

Wavestation is one of the most monumental synths ever released for certain.
And because it represented these technologies coming of age and being used
fairly well....you really can't improve on certain aspects of it. Definitely
one of the best buys out there for people who want to get into digital
synthesis or add a unique set of facilities to their studio environment. -Bob
"tsomneevich" <thom_s4@...> wrote:

Hi Rory, Bill and all,

I recently unloaded my Wavestation, but not because I didn't love it.
(No room, got a Microwave XTK). I really liked the wave sequencing.
It's quite a bit more powerful than what you'd find on a Microwave.
You can also choose how quickly the waves morph -- from instantaneous
to gradual, so you can get evolving pads or gurgling wavetable fun. I
can't even remember its filter -- must have been forgettable :) The
aftertouch was going on mine; I had to almost bend my fingers
backwards to make it respond.

Editing isn't too fun, but I think you can use Soundiver w/ it. Its
capabilities are pretty much limited by your imagination. You can do
faux-granular stuff, vector stuff, whatever. I love the subtlety of
wave synthesis. You don't even need filters really.

I hear the A/D module is the one to get, but the WS1 was fine by me.

By the way, Korg has wavetables in the new MS2000/ MicroKorg line,
though they're pretty wimpy. A few nice tables, including
an "infinite" one (you can do Shepard Tones! Woo hoo!). Can't really
go enveloping through the tables, though, and no morphing. W/ a few
changes, the MS2000 could almost be an MS20, SQ10, VC10 and WS in one
Midi-controlled box. But we can't have everything, I guess. Does
anyone else like the filter on the MS2000? It got great reviews, but
aside from the fact that it at least includes more than just LP, it
sounds crappy to me...

Hope you love the board, Rory!
Scott

--- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, Bill Sautter <sautter@c...> wrote:
> Just enjoy it and play/experiment to your heart's content!
> I have the Wavestation SR (rack version) and it can produce some
very
> interesting & unique sounds unlike almost any other synth.
> I never understood why Korg didn't incorporate the Wavestation's
technology
> into future keyboards (i.e., they could have done a Wavestation
board for
> the Trinity & Triton, as they did with the MOSS and Z1 boards).
> - Bill
>
> At 12:49 pm 10/02/2003, you wrote:
> >Hi:
> >I just acquired a Wavestation (keyboard WS1 version) and havent
even
> >checked it out yet. Any thoughts out there on this synth?
> >What is it good at? Pros/Cons
> >Rory McDonald
> >Oldsynths Moderator



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RE: [[oldsynths] Re: Korg Wavestation]

2003-10-06 by Rory McDonald

One thing I noticed trying out the Wavestation was that is seems that almost
all the presets are bathed, and sometimes drenched in reverb. Is that the
case normally or is this unit possibly need a Factory reset?
Seems like a nice synth for pads, bells and such- the acoustic sounds arent
too good though.
I need to decide if I am going to keep it, because right now I have more
synths than room...
Rory McDonald
Oldsynths Moderator

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert [mailto:sounddoctorin@...]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:46 AM
To: oldsynths@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[oldsynths] Re: Korg Wavestation]



Those of us who use wavestation still argue that it's one of the most
effective synths on the planet. Here's why

1) the sample library is ordered largely around building block sounds
attained
from prophet VS and other analog synths.

2) a lot of depth possible in how the sounds are layered.

3) simple filtering that doesn't do stuff that sounds horribly unnatural
when
pasted over the root sounds

4) a LOT of expressive control afforded...interacting mod wheel, pedals,
vel,
AT, and vector stick to even arrange where a wavesequence is entered
for instance...and to control various key parameters of the...

5) nice fx! WS was noted by reviewers as being one of the first keyboards
to
have a really decent fx environment. Blew away the Yamaha SY77 for instance
which had just been reviewed by keyboard.

Wavestation is one of the most monumental synths ever released for
certain.
And because it represented these technologies coming of age and being used
fairly well....you really can't improve on certain aspects of it.
Definitely
one of the best buys out there for people who want to get into digital
synthesis or add a unique set of facilities to their studio environment.
-Bob
"tsomneevich" <thom_s4@...> wrote:

Hi Rory, Bill and all,

I recently unloaded my Wavestation, but not because I didn't love it.
(No room, got a Microwave XTK). I really liked the wave sequencing.
It's quite a bit more powerful than what you'd find on a Microwave.
You can also choose how quickly the waves morph -- from instantaneous
to gradual, so you can get evolving pads or gurgling wavetable fun. I
can't even remember its filter -- must have been forgettable :) The
aftertouch was going on mine; I had to almost bend my fingers
backwards to make it respond.

Editing isn't too fun, but I think you can use Soundiver w/ it. Its
capabilities are pretty much limited by your imagination. You can do
faux-granular stuff, vector stuff, whatever. I love the subtlety of
wave synthesis. You don't even need filters really.

I hear the A/D module is the one to get, but the WS1 was fine by me.

By the way, Korg has wavetables in the new MS2000/ MicroKorg line,
though they're pretty wimpy. A few nice tables, including
an "infinite" one (you can do Shepard Tones! Woo hoo!). Can't really
go enveloping through the tables, though, and no morphing. W/ a few
changes, the MS2000 could almost be an MS20, SQ10, VC10 and WS in one
Midi-controlled box. But we can't have everything, I guess. Does
anyone else like the filter on the MS2000? It got great reviews, but
aside from the fact that it at least includes more than just LP, it
sounds crappy to me...

Hope you love the board, Rory!
Scott

--- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, Bill Sautter <sautter@c...> wrote:
> Just enjoy it and play/experiment to your heart's content!
> I have the Wavestation SR (rack version) and it can produce some
very
> interesting & unique sounds unlike almost any other synth.
> I never understood why Korg didn't incorporate the Wavestation's
technology
> into future keyboards (i.e., they could have done a Wavestation
board for
> the Trinity & Triton, as they did with the MOSS and Z1 boards).
> - Bill
>
> At 12:49 pm 10/02/2003, you wrote:
> >Hi:
> >I just acquired a Wavestation (keyboard WS1 version) and havent
even
> >checked it out yet. Any thoughts out there on this synth?
> >What is it good at? Pros/Cons
> >Rory McDonald
> >Oldsynths Moderator



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Re: [[oldsynths] Re: Korg Wavestation]

2003-10-08 by Bob Weigel

Doesn't sound "normal" to me. Try moving the mod wheel back though :-) I
seem to recall a few that have reverb>mod wheel routings. Reloading patches
is adequate. DO NOT enter diagnostic mode and clear things or you'll be in
for a repair bill installing new EPROMs or whatever they used...can't
recall. I used that once because I had it repaired and feared the repair
people had done nothing. To make SURE this time that they replaced those
chips, I killed 'em :-) Then it started doing the same thing again anyway
and Korg finally just gave me a new EX model out of warranty! -Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rory McDonald" <rmcdonald@...>
To: <oldsynths@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: [[oldsynths] Re: Korg Wavestation]


> One thing I noticed trying out the Wavestation was that is seems that
almost
> all the presets are bathed, and sometimes drenched in reverb. Is that the
> case normally or is this unit possibly need a Factory reset?
> Seems like a nice synth for pads, bells and such- the acoustic sounds
arent
> too good though.
> I need to decide if I am going to keep it, because right now I have more
> synths than room...
> Rory McDonald
> Oldsynths Moderator
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert [mailto:sounddoctorin@...]
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:46 AM
> To: oldsynths@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [[oldsynths] Re: Korg Wavestation]
>
>
>
> Those of us who use wavestation still argue that it's one of the most
> effective synths on the planet. Here's why
>
> 1) the sample library is ordered largely around building block sounds
> attained
> from prophet VS and other analog synths.
>
> 2) a lot of depth possible in how the sounds are layered.
>
> 3) simple filtering that doesn't do stuff that sounds horribly unnatural
> when
> pasted over the root sounds
>
> 4) a LOT of expressive control afforded...interacting mod wheel, pedals,
> vel,
> AT, and vector stick to even arrange where a wavesequence is entered
> for instance...and to control various key parameters of the...
>
> 5) nice fx! WS was noted by reviewers as being one of the first keyboards
> to
> have a really decent fx environment. Blew away the Yamaha SY77 for
instance
> which had just been reviewed by keyboard.
>
> Wavestation is one of the most monumental synths ever released for
> certain.
> And because it represented these technologies coming of age and being
used
> fairly well....you really can't improve on certain aspects of it.
> Definitely
> one of the best buys out there for people who want to get into digital
> synthesis or add a unique set of facilities to their studio environment.
> -Bob
> "tsomneevich" <thom_s4@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Rory, Bill and all,
>
> I recently unloaded my Wavestation, but not because I didn't love it.
> (No room, got a Microwave XTK). I really liked the wave sequencing.
> It's quite a bit more powerful than what you'd find on a Microwave.
> You can also choose how quickly the waves morph -- from instantaneous
> to gradual, so you can get evolving pads or gurgling wavetable fun. I
> can't even remember its filter -- must have been forgettable :) The
> aftertouch was going on mine; I had to almost bend my fingers
> backwards to make it respond.
>
> Editing isn't too fun, but I think you can use Soundiver w/ it. Its
> capabilities are pretty much limited by your imagination. You can do
> faux-granular stuff, vector stuff, whatever. I love the subtlety of
> wave synthesis. You don't even need filters really.
>
> I hear the A/D module is the one to get, but the WS1 was fine by me.
>
> By the way, Korg has wavetables in the new MS2000/ MicroKorg line,
> though they're pretty wimpy. A few nice tables, including
> an "infinite" one (you can do Shepard Tones! Woo hoo!). Can't really
> go enveloping through the tables, though, and no morphing. W/ a few
> changes, the MS2000 could almost be an MS20, SQ10, VC10 and WS in one
> Midi-controlled box. But we can't have everything, I guess. Does
> anyone else like the filter on the MS2000? It got great reviews, but
> aside from the fact that it at least includes more than just LP, it
> sounds crappy to me...
>
> Hope you love the board, Rory!
> Scott
>
> --- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, Bill Sautter <sautter@c...> wrote:
> > Just enjoy it and play/experiment to your heart's content!
> > I have the Wavestation SR (rack version) and it can produce some
> very
> > interesting & unique sounds unlike almost any other synth.
> > I never understood why Korg didn't incorporate the Wavestation's
> technology
> > into future keyboards (i.e., they could have done a Wavestation
> board for
> > the Trinity & Triton, as they did with the MOSS and Z1 boards).
> > - Bill
> >
> > At 12:49 pm 10/02/2003, you wrote:
> > >Hi:
> > >I just acquired a Wavestation (keyboard WS1 version) and havent
> even
> > >checked it out yet. Any thoughts out there on this synth?
> > >What is it good at? Pros/Cons
> > >Rory McDonald
> > >Oldsynths Moderator
>
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