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----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

From: tony1
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:51 PM

Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you retry them.

Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best post PG releases, imho.

I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not have anything left you'll like.

I hope this is not true!

Good luck and keep listening!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, tony1 net> wrote:

From: tony1 net>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:51 PM

Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you retry them.

Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best post PG releases, imho.

I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not have anything left you'll like.

I hope this is not true!

Good luck and keep listening!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

>
> I was lucky enough to see "The Lamb Lies down on Broadway" at the auditorium theatre in Chicago about a month before Gabriel left, and have been a fan since.
> Prefer Gabriel over Collins to be sure, I listen to the music and not much of the vocals, period.
> Just never have with any bands and prefer instrumentals, no surprise eh?
> http://auditoriumtheatre.org/wb/
> What a venue!
> Tony
> #510
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Mark Pring 
>   To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
> 
> 
>     Thanks Tony, Peter Gabriel was still there for "Selling England by the Pound" . The later Genesis doesn't appeal to me as it seems to be primarily aimed towards what would sell and of course it did.
> 
>          In "Selling England by the Pound" I think I can hear the first signs of that change which makes me think that perhaps Foxtrot is the last album for me. I have to admit there is some nice tron in SEBTP but nice tron isn't quite enough, the songs seem a lot stronger in the previous albums "Times Table", "Can utility..." and "Seven Stones" being my favourites.
> 
>         I think "The Lamb lies down.." is the next album and I wondered if SEBTP was a "blip" or  the start of a trend.
> 
>         Mark
>         --- On Fri, 8/28/09, tony1 <atm655@...> wrote:
> 
> 
>           From: tony1 <atm655@...>
>           Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
>           To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>           Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:51 PM
> 
> 
>             
> 
>           Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you retry them.
>           Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best post PG releases, imho.
>           I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not have anything left you'll like.
>           I hope this is not true!
>           Good luck and keep listening!
>           Tony
>           #510
>             ----- Original Message ----- 
>             From: Mark Pring 
>             To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 
>             Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM
>             Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
> 
> 
>               
>             I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?
> 
>             Mark
>

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?






















    

                  





Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you 
retry them.


Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best 
post PG releases, imho.


I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not 
have anything left you'll like.


I hope this is not true!


Good luck and keep listening!


Tony


#510



  
----- Original Message ----- 

  
From: 
  Mark 
  Pring 

  
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  

  
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 
  AM

  
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after 
  supper?

  


? 
  

  
I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, 
  I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being 
  stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't 
  care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything 
  post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might 
  like?

Mark

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:11 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

 

  

I was lucky enough to see "The Lamb Lies down on Broadway" at the auditorium
theatre in Chicago about a month before Gabriel left, and have been a fan
since.

Prefer Gabriel over Collins to be sure, I listen to the music and not much
of the vocals, period.

Just never have with any bands and prefer instrumentals, no surprise eh?

http://auditoriumtheatre.org/wb/ 

What a venue!

Tony

#510

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Mark Pring <mailto:markpringnz@yahoo.com>  

To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:56 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

 

  


Thanks Tony, Peter Gabriel was still there for "Selling England by the
Pound" . The later Genesis doesn't appeal to me as it seems to be primarily
aimed towards what would sell and of course it did.

 In "Selling England by the Pound" I think I can hear the first signs of
that change which makes me think that perhaps Foxtrot is the last album for
me. I have to admit there is some nice tron in SEBTP but nice tron isn't
quite enough, the songs seem a lot stronger in the previous albums "Times
Table", "Can utility..." and "Seven Stones" being my favourites.

I think "The Lamb lies down.." is the next album and I wondered if SEBTP was
a "blip" or  the start of a trend.

Mark
--- On Fri, 8/28/09, tony1 <atm655@verizon.net> wrote:


From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:51 PM

  

Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you
retry them.

Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best
post PG releases, imho.

I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not
have anything left you'll like.

I hope this is not true!

Good luck and keep listening!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Mark Pring 

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

 

  

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular,
I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being
stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I
didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in
anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:24 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

 

  

"Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best
post PG releases, imho.".......huh?

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

  

Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you
retry them.

Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best
post PG releases, imho.

I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not
have anything left you'll like.

I hope this is not true!

Good luck and keep listening!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Mark Pring <mailto:markpringnz@yahoo.com>  

To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

 

  

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular,
I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being
stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I
didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in
anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

From: tony1
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 10:11 AM

I was lucky enough to see "The Lamb Lies down on Broadway" at the auditorium theatre in Chicago about a month before Gabriel left, and have been a fan since.

Prefer Gabriel over Collins to be sure, I listen to the music and not much of the vocals, period.

Just never have with any bands and prefer instrumentals, no surprise eh?

http://auditoriumth eatre.org/ wb/

What a venue!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:56 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

Thanks Tony, Peter Gabriel was still there for "Selling England by the Pound" . The later Genesis doesn't appeal to me as it seems to be primarily aimed towards what would sell and of course it did.

In "Selling England by the Pound" I think I can hear the first signs of that change which makes me think that perhaps Foxtrot is the last album for me. I have to admit there is some nice tron in SEBTP but nice tron isn't quite enough, the songs seem a lot stronger in the previous albums "Times Table", "Can utility..." and "Seven Stones" being my favourites.

I think "The Lamb lies down.." is the next album and I wondered if SEBTP was a "blip" or the start of a trend.

Mark
--- On Fri, 8/28/09, tony1 wrote:

From: tony1 Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:51 PM

Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you retry them.

Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best post PG releases, imho.

I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not have anything left you'll like.

I hope this is not true!

Good luck and keep listening!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

From: fdoddy@aol.com

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:24 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

"Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best post PG releases, imho.".......huh?

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you retry them.

Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best post PG releases, imho.

I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not have anything left you'll like.

I hope this is not true!

Good luck and keep listening!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

__.

I think lyrics were one of the weaker points of progressive rock but I don't find the melodies sufficiently interesting for them to stand on their own, so my favourite songs also tend to have interesting lyrics.

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, tony1 net> wrote:

From: tony1 net>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 10:11 AM

I was lucky enough to see "The Lamb Lies down on Broadway" at the auditorium theatre in Chicago about a month before Gabriel left, and have been a fan since.

Prefer Gabriel over Collins to be sure, I listen to the music and not much of the vocals, period.

Just never have with any bands and prefer instrumentals, no surprise eh?

http://auditoriumth eatre.org/ wb/

What a venue!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:56 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

Thanks Tony, Peter Gabriel was still there for "Selling England by the Pound" . The later Genesis doesn't appeal to me as it seems to be primarily aimed towards what would sell and of course it did.

In "Selling England by the Pound" I think I can hear the first signs of that change which makes me think that perhaps Foxtrot is the last album for me. I have to admit there is some nice tron in SEBTP but nice tron isn't quite enough, the songs seem a lot stronger in the previous albums "Times Table", "Can utility..." and "Seven Stones" being my favourites.

I think "The Lamb lies down.." is the next album and I wondered if SEBTP was a "blip" or the start of a trend.

Mark
--- On Fri, 8/28/09, tony1 wrote:

From: tony1
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:51 PM

Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you retry them.

Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best post PG releases, imho.

I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not have anything left you'll like.

I hope this is not true!

Good luck and keep listening!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

From: Mike Dickson
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:27 PM

None. You obviously hate music.

Mark Pring wrote:

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

__.

From: Mike Dickson <;mike.dickson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:40 PM

Oh now you'll get me onto another one of my Red Bull moments.

The lyrics to most prog rock are so bad they defy analysis. Bob Dylan and Van Dyke Parks' better lyrics need commentaries. The lyrics to 'Siberian Khatru' need a doctor. Or maybe a priest. The words for 'Supper's ready' Really ought to be taken outside and slapped about the arse with a wet haddock, and nearly anything Pete Sinfield wrote sounds like it ought to be helping police with their enquiries.

Perhaps that's the root of why the whole genre troubles me. It's easy enough to rip off the twiddly bits of romantic composers (even if you are playing them over a fairly mundane six or seven chord figure) because you're playing for an audience who probably don't know better and who just feel smug for the sound of it. But the nanosecond you have to do something original that might find you out - like come up with decent lyrics - is the nanosecond you sound completely and utterly banal.

Mark Pring wrote:

I think lyrics were one of the weaker points of progressive rock but I don't find the melodies sufficiently interesting for them to stand on their own, so my favourite songs also tend to have interesting lyrics.

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, tony1 wrote:

From: tony1
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 10:11 AM

I was lucky enough to see "The Lamb Lies down on Broadway" at the auditorium theatre in Chicago about a month before Gabriel left, and have been a fan since.

Prefer Gabriel over Collins to be sure, I listen to the music and not much of the vocals, period.

Just never have with any bands and prefer instrumentals, no surprise eh?

http://auditoriumth eatre.org/ wb/

What a venue!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:56 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

Thanks Tony, Peter Gabriel was still there for "Selling England by the Pound" . The later Genesis doesn't appeal to me as it seems to be primarily aimed towards what would sell and of course it did.

In "Selling England by the Pound" I think I can hear the first signs of that change which makes me think that perhaps Foxtrot is the last album for me. I have to admit there is some nice tron in SEBTP but nice tron isn't quite enough, the songs seem a lot stronger in the previous albums "Times Table", "Can utility..." and "Seven Stones" being my favourites.

I think "The Lamb lies down.." is the next album and I wondered if SEBTP was a "blip" or the start of a trend.

Mark
--- On Fri, 8/28/09, tony1 wrote:

From: tony1
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:51 PM

Mark the wealth of good music made by post Gabriel Genesis, I suggest you retry them.

Selling England by the Pound is a personal favorite, def one of the best post PG releases, imho.

I'm afraid it you are unable to warm up to that album, you might just not have anything left you'll like.

I hope this is not true!

Good luck and keep listening!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson

 From: Rick Blechta  <rick@rickblechta.ric>
To:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:54:30  PM
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?




On Aug 29, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Mike Dickson wrote:

Mark  Pring wrote:

Well some progressive rock lyrics are bad,  but some  aren't in my opinion, 
well after racking my brains I can only
come up  with:
Times Table
The Night Watch
Lament

And let's not forget "Watcher of the Skies"! Take the line "Will you  
survive on an ocean of V8"?


That's beautiful and deep, that is. 'Specially when PG flashed the red  
insides of his cape just after.

From: Mike Dickson
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 2:14 AM

'Sarcasm', Mark. :-)

Mark Pring wrote:

Please explain Mike, I think I like music, all sorts, there is music that I like that is timeless, eg Bach Beethoven, Elgar, Chopin, Scarlatti, Byrd, Gibbons, Mozart, Handel, Corelli, and music that is ephemeral eg Genesis, Richard Thompson, King Crimson, Nick Drake, Sandy Denny, Colosseum, Barclay James Harvest, Maestoso, Syd Barett, Anne Briggs. It's not serious but music of my time and still speaks to me.

So what leads you to say that I don't like music?

Cheers

Mark

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Mike Dickson wrote:

From: Mike Dickson
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:27 PM

None. You obviously hate music.

Mark Pring wrote:

I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?

Mark

__.

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson

From: Mike Dickson
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 5:24 AM

Mark Pring wrote:

>>Well some progressive rock lyrics are bad, but some aren't in my opinion, well after racking my brains I can only
>> come up with:
>> Times Table
>> The Night Watch
>> Lament

Hmm...I don't really know or remember 'Timetable' enough to make any kind of comment, but the other two are well enough known to me and they are pretty *meh*. One appears to be extemporising around details from a painting by Rembrandt (I think) and the other is just another take on 'rock and roll....it ain't as much fun as it used to be, is it?' which I seem to have heard about a zillion times before. I'll grant you that Palmer-James is a significant step up from Sinfield, though. Sinfield's excruciating Sea Goat said that 'the nonsense makes me numb'. How right he was.

I don't really want to get into the issue of shouting about one set of lyrics and slagging off a whole pile of others because you also say

>> But in general no worse than other popular music or serious music come to that.

My big issue with 90% of rock music of any genre is in the vocalist department. Good signers are a rarity. I mean a real rarity. Mediocre singers are more plentiful, but the utterly awful comprise the huge majority, and add to that horror the fact they have to sing rock and roll lyrics. I love the sound of the Beach Boys but I'd rather listen to the sound than have to endure what have to be some of the worst words ever thrown on a page. (Actually that is unfair. Jack Rieley was much worse)

>>; There is almost nothing in music that Bach didn't do first.

That's really not true. Bach copied a lot from other people before him, just like any other composer ever did. However, he managed to synthesise something new from that which he had picked up along the way. He also didn't ever go near trying to write an opera, which many people are a bit puzzled by. i also don't recall Bach doing a big line in rockabilly. Maybe I haven't got to that CD yet in my complete works set. :-)

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:14 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?


  

'Sarcasm', Mark.  :-)

Mark Pring wrote: 

	  

	
Please  explain Mike, I think I like music, all sorts,  there is music
that I like that is timeless, eg  Bach Beethoven, Elgar, Chopin,
Scarlatti, Byrd, Gibbons, Mozart, Handel, Corelli, and music that is
ephemeral  eg  Genesis, Richard Thompson, King Crimson, Nick Drake,
Sandy Denny, Colosseum, Barclay James Harvest, Maestoso, Syd Barett,
Anne  Briggs. It's not serious but music of my time and still speaks to
me.

So what leads you to say that I don't like music?


Cheers

Mark


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:



	From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
	Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
	To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
	Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:27 PM
	
	
	  

	None. You obviously hate music.
	
	Mark Pring wrote: 

		  

		I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery
Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I
had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I
would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound"
and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any
other albums I might like?
		
		Mark
		
		

		__.




-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
<http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>  
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
<http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson> 
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>

Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
<http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Mark Pring<markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?
>

From: lsf5275@aol.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 9:54 AM

Why Do you think you shouldn't have voiced your opinion? Isn't that what this forum is for? Ignore Mike... he hides his secret admiration for Mike Pinder and all things Yes.

In a message dated 8/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, markpringnz@ yahoo.com writes:

So to summarise, you don't like the lyrics to most if not all progressive rock and I like some of them. I knew I shouldn't have started this!

 From:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  newmellotrongroup@<WBR  newmellotro  
newOn Behalf Of Mike  Dickson
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:14 AM
To:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?




'Sarcasm', Mark.  :-)

Mark Pring wrote:  
 
Please  explain Mike, I think I like music, all sorts,  there is music that 
I like that is timeless, eg  Bach  Beethoven, Elgar, Chopin, Scarlatti, 
Byrd, Gibbons, Mozart, Handel,  Corelli, and music that is ephemeral  eg  
Genesis, Richard  Thompson, King Crimson, Nick Drake, Sandy Denny, Colosseum, 
Barclay  James Harvest, Maestoso, Syd Barett, Anne  Briggs. It's not  serious 
but music of my time and still speaks to me. 
So what leads you to say that I don't like music?
Cheers 
Mark
--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Mike Dickson  <mike.dickson@mike.dick> wrote:


From:  Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@mike.dick>
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To:  newmellotrongroup@To:  To:
Date: Saturday,  August 29, 2009, 8:27 PM


 
 
 
None. You obviously hate music.

Mark Pring wrote:  
 
I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in  
particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to  choose between 
being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I  would choose the former. I 
didn't care for "Selling Engand by the  Pound" and I am not interested in 
anything post Peter Gabriel, so  are there any other albums I might  like?

Mark


__.











-- 

Mike Dickson, Edinburgh



Free Music Project: _http://www.mikedickhttp://www._ 
(http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/)  

Or _http://www.last.http://wwhttp://www.l_ 
(http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson) 

Or _http://soundcloud.http://soundclo_ (http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson) 

Or _http://www.planetmehttp://www.phttp://wwwhttp://www._ 
(http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson)

From: Norman Fay
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 9:33 AM

"Foxtrot", "Nursery Cryme" & (to a slightly lesser extent) "Trespass"
are different to all of the other Genesis albums, the particular sound
they had then - ratty-sounding production, lots of 12-string acoustic
guitar mixed with hammond organ & mellotron, is pretty much unique to
those 3 albums, they never did that again*, and I've never heard a
Genesis "influenced" band take their sound from those albums, it's
always Selling England by the Pound that gets lifted. The nearest
thing sonically that I can think of would be Anglagard's "Hybris" and
"Epilog", the music is different, but the instrumentation is similar,
and they have a similar sense of dynamics.

*I wish they had! I really like those albums, I wish there had been
another album between "Trespass" and "Nursery Cryme"

I have no idea why progressive rock gets ripped on for its lyrics,
they were really no worse than any rock lyrics, IE mainly terrible
with the very odd good bit. Maybe with it's alleged lofty artistic
pretensions people expect better, though probably historically it's
just been another stick to beat it with for yer average
NME/Sounds/Melody Maker flack.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Mark Pring<markpringnz@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any other albums I might like?
>

Can you believe...God makes you breathe

Why did he lose....6 million jews

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM, <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

As I recall, there really wasn't much Mellotron until Nursery Crime.

In a message dated 8/29/2009 6:10:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:

Thanks Norman, I think this answers my original question, is there much mellotron on Trespass?

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

  > 
>I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in
>particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to
>choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would
>choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and
>I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any
>other albums I might like?
>
>>Mark
>
>
>__.

-----Original Message-----
From: lsf5275@aol.com
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?






















    

                  




Why Do you think you shouldn't have voiced your opinion? Isn't that what 
this forum is for? Ignore Mike... he hides his secret admiration for Mike Pinder 
and all things Yes.


?




In a message dated 8/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:


So to 
  summarise, you don't like the lyrics to most if not all progressive rock and I 
  like some of them. I knew I shouldn't have started 
this!

> Wow!!  Nothing like a good prog stomping on a Mellotron thread!!!  Ouch!!!
>
> Breathe deep the gathering gloom
> Watch lights fade from every room
> Bedsetter people look back and lament
> Another day's useless energy's spent
> Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
> Lonely man cries for love and has none
> New mother picks up and suckles her son
> Senior citizens wish they were young
> Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
> Removes the colors from our sight
> Red is grey and yellow white
> But we decide which is right
> And which is an illusion
>
> Oh for crying out loud!!! Hilarious!!! I'd rather see mountains come out
> of the sky and stand there!!!
>
> But, when you think all is lost, check out this poor son of a bitch...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v60lOLD0OPA
>
>
>
>
> "But when you think of me tune in the frequency, Come out and play come
> out and play"
> ....Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams
>
>  "Nothing can change the shape of things to come."
> ....Max Frost
>
> "Any talent that we are born with eventually surfaces as a need"
> ....Marsha Sinetar
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:27:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
>
>
> None. You obviously hate music.
>
> Mark Pring wrote:
>   >
>>I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in
>>particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to
>>choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would
>>choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and
>>I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any
>>other albums I might like?
>>
>>>Mark
>>
>>
>>__.
>
>
>
>
>

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics
or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap.
Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully
boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into
that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

----- Original Message -----

From: James Parthun

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.

partune

#872

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" .> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:00 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

Listen to Jim!

Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

 

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after
it's release.

Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still
fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the
feelings everytime.

 

My 2 cents worth,

 

Tony

#510

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@att.net>  

To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will
only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum-
barbiturates. 

partune 

#872


  _____  


From: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

  

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics
or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap.
Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully
boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into
that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

From: tony1
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:00:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


Listen to Jim!
Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.
Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.

My 2 cents worth,

Tony
#510

----- Original Message -----
From: James Parthun
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.

partune
#872

From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com , "Thomas C. Doncourt" wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

>
> I totally agree... The time surrounding "Close..." and "Tales..." is still the most important time of life...  The sounds, the shows at the Spectrum and those memories (I think) will be cherished forever...
> 
> I didn't mean to be so hard on the Moodies... :)     
> 
> 
> "But when you think of me tune in the frequency, Come out and play come out and play"
> ...Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams
> 
>  "Nothing can change the shape of things to come." 
> ...Max Frost
>  
> "Any talent that we are born with eventually surfaces as a need"
> ...Marsha Sinetar
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: tony1 <atm655@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:00:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> 
>   
> Listen to Jim!
> Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
> It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
> 
> Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.
> Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.
> 
> My 2 cents worth,
> 
> Tony
> #510
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: James Parthun 
> >To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 
> >Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
> >Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> >  
> >Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates. 
> >partune 
> >#872
> >
> ________________________________
> 
> >From:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
> >Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
> >To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >  
> >It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.
> >
> >Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.
> >
> >--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@ .> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>

-----Original Message-----
From: James Parthun <james.parthun@att.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 11:14 am
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?






















    

                  











Btw- I do enjoy much of Topographic (not
that anyone would care). The Mellotron is lovingly recorded, even though the
musical parts may not be as inspired as others in the history of the instrument…



 






partune



#872



 



















From:
newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009
10:00 AM

To:
newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup]
Re: What's after supper?






 



  



















Listen to Jim!









Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.









It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).









 









Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
after it's release.









Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the
feelings everytime.



0A




 









My 2 cents worth,









 









Tony









#510









 












----- Original Message ----- 









From: James Parthun










To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com










Sent: Monday, August 31,
2009 10:06 AM









Subject: RE:
[newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?









 






  









Caffeine
will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only
frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates. 






partune




#872



















From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44
AM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re:
What's after supper?






  












It
doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or
mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone
else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if
everyone agreed on everything.



Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into
that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,
"Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:

>

> Sorry,=2
0not looking to piss anybody off but

 From: tony1  <atm655@verizon.atm>
To:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:00:28  AM
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


Listen to Jim!
Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the  pun).
 
Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after  
it's release.
Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still  
fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the  
feelings everytime.
 
My 2 cents worth,
 
Tony
#510
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: _James  Parthun_ (mailto:james.parthun@att.net)  
To: _newmellotrongroup@  yahoogroups. com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06  AM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re:  What's after supper?



 
Caffeine will not  help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will 
only frustrate you.  Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- 
barbiturates.   
 
partune   
#872
 
  
____________________________________
 
From: _newmellotrongroup@  yahoogroups. com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)  [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of 
ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44  AM
To: _newmellotrongroup@  yahoogroups. com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's  after supper?
 
 
 
It  doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, 
lyrics or  mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. 
 Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully 
 boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring...  Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get 
into that album. I will  try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In _newmellotrongroup@  yahoogroups. com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@.. .>  wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 1:03 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

I'm feeling a lot of love here!

 

 

In a message dated 8/31/2009 11:23:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
zappaboggs@yahoo.com writes:

  

I totally agree... The time surrounding "Close..." and "Tales..." is still
the most important time of life....  The sounds, the shows at the Spectrum
and those memories (I think) will be cherished forever...

 

I didn't mean to be so hard on the Moodies... :)     

 

 

"But when you think of me tune in the frequency, Come out and play come out
and play"

...Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams


 "Nothing can change the shape of things to come." 

...Max Frost

 

"Any talent that we are born with eventually surfaces as a need"

...Marsha Sinetar

 

 


  _____  


From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:00:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

  

Listen to Jim!

Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

 

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after
it's release.

Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still
fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the
feelings everytime.

 

My 2 cents worth,

 

Tony

#510

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: James <mailto:james.parthun@att.net>  Parthun 

To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups. com 

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will
only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum-
barbiturates. 

partune 

#872


  _____  


From: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of
ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups. com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

  

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics
or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap.
Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully
boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into
that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups. com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@.. .> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but 

 

 

  _____

Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but reading some of these threads
is like listening to car mechanics complain about contemporary art (my
apologies to car mechanics). Everything here is subjective and done in
hindsight. I'm not sure that most people can understand anything about
prog rock without the aid of acid-it seemed to help many of my colleagues
in any case.
I lived through reading reviews panning prog rock in preference to
Springstine and Van Morrison.
I love Anderson's lyrics and Gabriels lyrics and Sinfield"s lyrics on the
first four Crimson albums.
I love Peter Hamill's lyrics. I love Mike Pinder's mellotron work and
don't care how unfashionable it is to say so. I hate this thread. If you
don't get it you don't get it but no need to tear it down.

> Wow!! Nothing like a good prog stomping on a Mellotron thread!!! Ouch!!!
>
> Breathe deep the gathering gloom
> Watch lights fade from every room
> Bedsetter people look back and lament
> Another day's useless energy's spent
> Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
> Lonely man cries for love and has none
> New mother picks up and suckles her son
> Senior citizens wish they were young
> Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
> Removes the colors from our sight
> Red is grey and yellow white
> But we decide which is right
> And which is an illusion
>
> Oh for crying out loud!!! Hilarious!!! I'd rather see mountains come out
> of the sky and stand there!!!
>
> But, when you think all is lost, check out this poor son of a bitch...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v60lOLD0OPA
>
>
>
>
> "But when you think of me tune in the frequency, Come out and play come
> out and play"
> ....Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams
>
> "Nothing can change the shape of things to come."
> ....Max Frost
>
> "Any talent that we are born with eventually surfaces as a need"
> ....Marsha Sinetar
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:27:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?
>
>
> None. You obviously hate music.
>
> Mark Pring wrote:
> >
>>I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in
>>particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had to
>>choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard, I would
>>choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the Pound" and
>>I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are there any
>>other albums I might like?
>>
>>>Mark
>>
>>
>>__.
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

From: James Parthun <james.parthun@att.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:08:13 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

  
Group hug….
 

________________________________

From:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol. com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 1:03 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 
  
I'm feeling a lot of love here!
 
 
In a message dated 8/31/2009 11:23:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zappaboggs@yahoo. com writes:
  
>I totally agree... The time surrounding "Close..." and "Tales..." is still the most important time of life....  The sounds, the shows at the Spectrum and those memories (I think) will be cherished forever...
> 
>I didn't mean to be so hard on the Moodies... :)     
> 
> 
>"But when you think of me tune in the frequency, Come out and play come out and play"
>...Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams
>
> "Nothing can change the shape of things to come." 
>...Max Frost
> 
>"Any talent that we are born with eventually surfaces as a need"
>...Marsha Sinetar
> 
> 
>
________________________________

>From:tony1 <atm655@verizon.. net>
>To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:00:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>  
>Listen to Jim!
>Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
>It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
> 
>Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.
>Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.
> 
>My 2 cents worth,
> 
>Tony
>#510
> 
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From:James Parthun 
>>To:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 
>>Sent:Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
>>Subject:RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>> 
>>  
>>Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates. 
>>partune 
>>#872
>>
________________________________

>>From:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
>>Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
>>To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
>>Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>  
>>It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.
>>
>>Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.
>>
>>--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@.. .> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but 
> 
 

________________________________

Listen to Jim!

Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.

Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.

My 2 cents worth,

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: James Parthun

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.

partune

#872

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" .> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Dickson

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:57 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1 wrote:

Listen to Jim!

Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.

Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.

My 2 cents worth,

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: James Parthun

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.

partune

#872

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" .> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

Mike you left out something important in your comment.

"It's shite" TO YOU!

You are certainly entitled to it, no question.

My opinion is quite the opposite, but take into mind, or not, that I saw and heard both albums live a total of oh 15 times live total.

Maybe it's due to the 15 year age difference?

Regardless as mentioned by another poster, the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same thing!

Oh by the way I really enjoyed my visit to Edinburgh! And visiting my family's ancestral home of Moffat as modest a village as it is.

Cheers!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Dickson

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:57 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1 wrote:

Listen to Jim!

Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.

Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.

My 2 cents worth,

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: James Parthun

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.

partune

#872

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" .> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
    

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Dickson

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:45 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Well...whose opinion can I possible be expressing?

And sitting through it 15 times live sounds like a cry for fucking help. And a 15 years age difference only means you should know better.

Glad you liked Edinburgh. Moffat is pretty nondescript though. If it wasn't for their 'celebrated boilings' I doubt many people would know about it!

Mike

tony1 wrote:

Mike you left out something important in your comment.

"It's shite" TO YOU!

You are certainly entitled to it, no question.

My opinion is quite the opposite, but take into mind, or not, that I saw and heard both albums live a total of oh 15 times live total.

Maybe it's due to the 15 year age difference?

Regardless as mentioned by another poster, the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same thing!

Oh by the way I really enjoyed my visit to Edinburgh! And visiting my family's ancestral home of Moffat as modest a village as it is.

Cheers!

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Dickson

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:57 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1 wrote:

Listen to Jim!

Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.

Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.

My 2 cents worth,

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: James Parthun

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.

partune

#872

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" .> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
    

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Blechta
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:51 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

 

On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Mike Dickson wrote:





Moffat is pretty nondescript though. If it wasn't for their 'celebrated
boilings' I doubt many people would know about it!

 

"Celebrated boilings"? Surely, you can't leave it there! WTF IS a celebrated
boiling? And how does it differ from a normal boiling? Does it involve
lashings of neeps and tatties to accompany whatever it is that has been
boiled and then celebrated? Hopefully, it doesn't involve haggis...

 

And there you have it, my friends. The conversation has come full circle. We
should soon know what's after supper -- at least in Moffat.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Blechta

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Mike Dickson wrote:

Moffat is pretty nondescript though. If it wasn't for their 'celebrated boilings' I doubt many people would know about it!

"Celebrated boilings"? Surely, you can't leave it there! WTF IS a celebrated boiling? And how does it differ from a normal boiling? Does it involve lashings of neeps and tatties to accompany whatever it is that has been boiled and then celebrated? Hopefully, it doesn't involve haggis...

And there you have it, my friends. The conversation has come full circle. We should soon know what's after supper -- at least in Moffat.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Blechta

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:59 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:55 PM, tony1 wrote:

I just add "in my opinion" to avoid, or try to arguing about "tastes".

Yes I should know better than to express myself, well don't hold your breath!

Boilings? care to elaborate as I missed that one.

I'll be back there soon.

Careful there, Tony. They might derive great pleasure from boiling foreigners. You might have been extremely lucky on your first visit, escaping with your life and all. Might be they boil anyone who likes Tales from Topographic Oceans...

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?






















    

                  




Car mechanics can complain about contemporary art. In fact,
anyone can complain about art. I'm not a car mechanic, but I certainly
can complain about a car when it is running like a bag of bolts. The
whole notion of 'you have to be able to do better to complain'
is just nonsense, usually concocted by the overly defensive. If that
were the case then no one would ever complain in a restaurant. The
whole point is that you are giving time, money or effort to people who should
be able to do better. When they fail to live up to that standard
you set you complain. You don't have to be able to do any better!



Mike



Thomas C. Doncourt wrote:


?

  

  
Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but reading some of these
threads

is like listening to car mechanics complain about contemporary art (my

apologies to car mechanics). Everything here is subjective and done in

hindsight. I'm not sure that most people can understand anything about

prog rock without the aid of acid-it seemed to help many of my
colleagues

in any case.

I lived through reading reviews panning prog rock in preference to

Springstine and Van Morrison.

I love Anderson's lyrics and Gabriels lyrics and Sinfield"s lyrics on
the

first four Crimson albums.

I love Peter Hamill's lyrics. I love Mike Pinder's mellotron work and

don't care how unfashionable it is to say so. I hate this thread. If you

don't get it you don't get it but no need to tear it down.

  

> Wow!! Nothing like a good prog stomping on a Mellotron thread!!!
Ouch!!!

>

> Breathe deep the gathering gloom

> Watch lights fade from every room

> Bedsetter people look back and lament

> Another day's useless energy's spent

> Impassioned lovers wrestle as one

> Lonely man cries for love and has none

> New mother picks up and suckles her son

> Senior citizens wish they were young

> Cold-hearted orb that rules the night

> Removes the colors from our sight

> Red is grey and yellow white

> But we decide which is right

> And which is an illusion

>

> Oh for crying out loud!!! Hilarious!!! I'd rather see mountains
come out

> of the sky and stand there!!!

>

> But, when you think all is lost, check out this poor son of a
bitch...

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v60lOLD0OPA

>

>

>

>

> "But when you think of me tune in the frequency, Come out and play
come

> out and play"

> ....Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams

>

> "Nothing can change the shape of things to come."

> ....Max Frost

>

> "Any talent that we are born with eventually surfaces as a need"

> ....Marsha Sinetar

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>

> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:27:37 AM

> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] What's after supper?

>

>

> None. You obviously hate music.

>

> Mark Pring wrote:

> >

>>I have learnt to like Genesis, "Foxtrot" and "Nursery Crime" in

>>particular, I am even quite fond of Supper's Ready and if I had
to

>>choose between being stuck in a lift listening to it or Lizard,
I would

>>choose the former. I didn't care for "Selling Engand by the
Pound" and

>>I am not interested in anything post Peter Gabriel, so are
there any

>>other albums I might like?

>>

>>>Mark

>>

>>

>>__.

>

>

>

>

>

  

  

  

 




-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

From: Mike Dickson ;

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:57 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?






It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1 wrote:

Listen to Jim!

Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).



Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.

Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.



My 2 cents worth,



Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: James Parthun

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?



;



Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.




partune

#872

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?









It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com , "Thomas C. Doncourt" wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

;

Hey haggis isn't bad, but would be better if one didn't know what it was made of, hahahaha.

I survived afterall.

Tony

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Blechta

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Mike Dickson wrote:

Moffat is pretty nondescript though. If it wasn't for their 'celebrated boilings' I doubt many people would know about it!

"Celebrated boilings"? Surely, you can't leave it there! WTF IS a celebrated boiling? And how does it differ from a normal boiling? Does it involve lashings of neeps and tatties to accompany whatever it is that has been boiled and then celebrated? Hopefully, it doesn't involve haggis...

And there you have it, my friends. The conversation has come full circle. We should soon know what's after supper -- at least in Moffat.

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

From: lsf5275@aol.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 10:13 AM

Isn't this where someone gets really pissed off at Mike and we all quit and go form another group?

In a message dated 8/31/2009 4:48:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ecclesreinson@ rogers.com writes:

One person's masterpiece is another person's shite it seems. That's OK.
A discussion of Topographic Oceans ALWAYS end up here.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Dickson

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:43 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Haggis is essentially eviscerated sheep floor sweepings. How anyone can bring themselves to eat it, save in the throes of a massive drunken bet is utterly beyond me. It's a throwback to the times when people here used to eat the bits of animals everyone else makes shoes from. The only thing with less nutrition is the plastic bag within which you carried it home from the shop. It tastes like death and when it's cooking it smells like a river of shit has just been diverted through your kitchen.

tony1 wrote:

Hey haggis isn't bad, but would be better if one didn't know what it was made of, hahahaha.

I survived afterall.

Tony

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Blechta

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:51 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Mike Dickson wrote:

Moffat is pretty nondescript though. If it wasn't for their 'celebrated boilings' I doubt many people would know about it!

"Celebrated boilings"? Surely, you can't leave it there! WTF IS a celebrated boiling? And how does it differ from a normal boiling? Does it involve lashings of neeps and tatties to accompany whatever it is that has been boiled and then celebrated? Hopefully, it doesn't involve haggis...

And there you have it, my friends. The conversation has come full circle. We should soon know what's after supper -- at least in Moffat.

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

-----Original Message-----
From: lsf5275@aol.com
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?






















    

                  




Isn't this where someone gets really pissed off at Mike and we all quit and 
go form another group?


?




In a message dated 8/31/2009 4:48:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:


One 
  person's masterpiece is another person's shite it seems. That's OK.
A 
  discussion of Topographic Oceans ALWAYS end up 
here.

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?



It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1 wrote:

Listen to Jim!
Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.
Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.

My 2 cents worth,

Tony
#510

----- Original Message -----
From: James Parthun<mailto:james.parthun@att.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
partune
#872
________________________________
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...<mailto:tomdcour@...>> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but



--

Mike Dickson, Edinburgh



Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/

Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson

Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson

Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

Who put you in charge of musical taste...music is subjective.  Just because
you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you the judge.  

Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
compositions...even if you don't like that style of music most any musician
would 

likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for
Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to
get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing
nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it
through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no redeeming
features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With
Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that
doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1 wrote: 

  

Listen to Jim!

Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

 

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after
it's release.

Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still
fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the
feelings everytime.

 

My 2 cents worth,

 

Tony

#510

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@att.net>  

To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will
only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum-
barbiturates. 

partune 

#872


  _____  


From: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

  

It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics
or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap.
Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully
boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into
that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but 






-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
 
Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
son.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last. <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud. <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson> com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetme
<http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
llotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

>
> He has and he's quite good..
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> partune #872
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Who put you in charge of musical taste...music is subjective.  Just because
> you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you the judge.  
> 
> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
> compositions...even if you don't like that style of music most any musician
> would 
> 
> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> It's shite.
> 
> Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for
> Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to
> get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing
> nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it
> through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no redeeming
> features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With
> Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that
> doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.
> 
> Mike
> 
> tony1 wrote: 
> 
>   
> 
> Listen to Jim!
> 
> Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
> 
> It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after
> it's release.
> 
> Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still
> fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the
> feelings everytime.
> 
>  
> 
> My 2 cents worth,
> 
>  
> 
> Tony
> 
> #510
> 
>  
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@...>  
> 
> To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com 
> 
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
> 
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will
> only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum-
> barbiturates. 
> 
> partune 
> 
> #872
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> ceccles_ca
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> 
>   
> 
> It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics
> or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap.
> Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully
> boring if everyone agreed on everything.
> 
> Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into
> that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>  
> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
> son.org.uk/ 
> Or http://www.last. <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
> fm/music/Mike+Dickson
> Or http://soundcloud. <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson> com/mikedickson
> Or http://www.planetme
> <http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
> llotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
>

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Parthun
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


He has and he's quite good....

http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/


partune #872
________________________________
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


Who put you in charge of musical taste.....music is subjective.  Just because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you the judge.
Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your compositions.......even if you don't like that style of music most any musician would
likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.


From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?



It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1 wrote:

Listen to Jim!
Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.
Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.

My 2 cents worth,

Tony
#510

----- Original Message -----
From: James Parthun<mailto:james.parthun@att.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
partune
#872
________________________________
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...<mailto:tomdcour@...>> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but





--

Mike Dickson, Edinburgh



Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/

Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson

Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson

Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

From: newme llotrongroup@ newme llotr newme llotrongroup@<WBR>ya newme 
llotrongr newme lOn Behalf Of James  Parthun
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
To:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  
Subject: RE:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 
 
 
 
He has and he’s quite good…. 
_http://www.mikedickhttp://www._ (http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/)  
 
partune  #872
 
  
____________________________________
 
From: newmellotrongroup@ newmellotro newmellotrongroup@<WBR>yah 
newmellotrongro newmellOn Behalf Of Gary  Brumm
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
To:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  
Subject: RE:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 
 
 
 
Who put you  in charge of musical taste…..music is subjective.  Just 
because you don’t  have the musical skill to play it doesn’t make you the judge.  
  
Please post  some of your recordings so we can compare it to your 
compositions…….even if  you don’t like that s tyle of music most any musician would  
likely  appreciate the skill it took to write and perform. 
 
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@ newmellotro newmellotrongroup@<WBR>yah 
newmellotrongro newmellOn Behalf Of Mike  Dickson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
To:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 
 
 
It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they  are few and far between. As for 
Tales I tried on the insistence of a  friend (who was more likely a twat) 
to get into that album by playing it in  the dark, while working, while doing 
nothing, while bathing, cooking,  hoovering whatever. I must have played it 
through about eight or nine times.  It truly is music with no redeeming 
features, not unlike Works  or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With 
Dirty Faces. If  anyone can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't 
sound like  animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1  wrote:  
 
 
Listen to Jim!
 
Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my  opinion.
 
It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in  (pardon t he pun).
 

 
Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so  many years after 
it's release.
 
Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and  Tales are still 
fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums  refreshes the 
feelings everytime.
 

 
My 2 cents worth,
 

 
Tony
 
#510
 


 
----- Original Message  ----- 
 
From: _James Parthun_ (mailto:james.parthun@att.net)   
 
To: _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06  AM
 
Subject:  RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 

 
 
Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy  Topographic Oceans. It will 
only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of  the narcotic spectrum- 
barbiturates.  
 
partune  
#872
 
  
____________________________________
 
From: _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   [_mailto:newmellotro_ (mailto:newmellotro) 
ngroup@yahoogroups.ngroup@yahoogOn Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009  8:44 AM
To: _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 
 
 
It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art,  
lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete  crap. 
Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be  awfully 
boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of  boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get 
into that  album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  "Thomas C. Doncourt" <_tomdcour@..._ (mailto:tomdcour@...) > 
wrote:
>
>  Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but  











-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
 
Free Music Project: _http://www.mikedickhttp://www._ 
(http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/)  
Or _http://www.last.http://wwhttp://www.l_ 
(http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson) 
Or _http://soundcloud.http://soundcloud_ 
(http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson) 
Or _http://www.planetmehttp://www.phttp://wwwhttp://www._ 
(http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson)

> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective.  Let's compare
> his sales with Close to the Edge.
> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music?  If I
> listen to his music and decide that
> it is "shite"  how would he feel about it?   My point was only that his is
> just one more "opinion" and really
> didn't mean to offend anyone.  However if he had said rap music is shite
> then I would have agreed so.....hmmm :)
> ....actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
> group....I enjoyed it.  I don't think I will be
> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get :)
> ....just kidding.....Cheers....
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Parthun
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
> He has and he's quite good....
>
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
>
>
> partune #872
> ________________________________
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
> Who put you in charge of musical taste.....music is subjective.  Just
> because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you the
> judge.
> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
> compositions.......even if you don't like that style of music most any
> musician would
> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
>
> It's shite.
>
> Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for
> Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat)
> to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while
> doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have
> played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no
> redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in
> Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of
> it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.
>
> Mike
>
> tony1 wrote:
>
> Listen to Jim!
> Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
> It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
>
> Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after
> it's release.
> Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still
> fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the
> feelings everytime.
>
> My 2 cents worth,
>
> Tony
> #510
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Parthun<mailto:james.parthun@att.net>
> To:
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
> Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will
> only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum-
> barbiturates.
> partune
> #872
> ________________________________
> From:
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
> To:
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
> It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art,
> lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete
> crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be
> awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.
>
> Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get
> into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.
>
> --- In
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...<mailto:tomdcour@...>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>
>
>
> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
>
> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
>
> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
>
> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
>
>

> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let's compare
> his sales with Close to the Edge.
> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
> listen to his music and decide that
> it is "shite" how would he feel about it? My point was only that his is
> just one more "opinion" and really
> didn't mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is shite
> then I would have agreed so.....hmmm :)
> ....actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
> group....I enjoyed it. I don't think I will be
> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get :)
> ....just kidding.....Cheers....
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of James Parthun
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
> He has and he's quite good....
>
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
>
>
> partune #872
> ________________________________
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
> Who put you in charge of musical taste.....music is subjective. Just
> because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you the
> judge.
> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
> compositions.......even if you don't like that style of music most any
> musician would
> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
>
> It's shite.
>
> Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for
> Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat)
> to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while
> doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have
> played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no
> redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in
> Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of
> it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.
>
> Mike
>
> tony1 wrote:
>
> Listen to Jim!
> Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
> It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
>
> Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after
> it's release.
> Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still
> fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the
> feelings everytime.
>
> My 2 cents worth,
>
> Tony
> #510
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Parthun<mailto:james.parthun@att.net<mailto:james.parthun%40att.net>>
> To:
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
> Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will
> only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum-
> barbiturates.
> partune
> #872
> ________________________________
> From:
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
> To:
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>
> It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover art,
> lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete
> crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be
> awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.
>
> Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get
> into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.
>
> --- In
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...<mailto:tomdcour@...<mailto:tomdcour@...%3cmailto:tomdcour@...>>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>
>
>
> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
>
> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
>
> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
>
> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
>
>

>
> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let\ufffds 
> compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
>
> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I 
> listen to his music and decide that
>
> it is \ufffdshite\ufffd how would he feel about it? My point was only that his 
> is just one more \ufffdopinion\ufffd and really
>
> didn\ufffdt mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is 
> shite then I would have agreed so\ufffd..hmmm J
>
> \ufffd.actually I have listened to some of Mike\ufffds stuff from links in this 
> group\ufffd.I enjoyed it. I don\ufffdt think I will be
>
> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it. 
> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
>
> \ufffd.just kidding\ufffd..Cheers\ufffd.
>
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Parthun
> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
> He has and he\ufffds quite good\ufffd.
>
> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>
> partune #872
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Brumm
> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
> Who put you in charge of musical taste\ufffd..music is subjective. Just 
> because you don\ufffdt have the musical skill to play it doesn\ufffdt make you 
> the judge.
>
> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your 
> compositions\ufffd\ufffd.even if you don\ufffdt like that style of music most any 
> musician would
>
> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
>
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Dickson
> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
> It's /shite./
>
> /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between. 
> As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more 
> likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while 
> working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering 
> whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It 
> truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or 
> Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone 
> can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like 
> /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
>
> Mike
>
> tony1 wrote:
>
>     Listen to Jim!
>
>     Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
>
>     It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
>
>     Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
>     after it's release.
>
>     Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
>     still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
>     refreshes the feelings everytime.
>
>     My 2 cents worth,
>
>     Tony
>
>     #510
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>
>         *From:* James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@att.net>
>
>         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>
>         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
>
>         *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>         Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
>         Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
>         the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
>
>         partune
>
>         #872
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>         [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of
>         *ceccles_ca
>         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
>         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>         *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
>         It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
>         cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
>         cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
>         best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
>         agreed on everything.
>
>         Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
>         times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
>         Red Bulls.
>
>         --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C.
>         Doncourt" <tomdcour@... <mailto:tomdcour@...>> wrote:
>         >
>         > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>  
> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/> 
> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>
> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson <http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
>
>

On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Mike Dickson wrote:

Moffat is pretty nondescript though. If it wasn't for their 'celebrated boilings' I doubt many people would know about it!

"Celebrated boilings"? Surely, you can't leave it there! WTF IS a celebrated boiling? And how does it differ from a normal boiling? Does it involve lashings of neeps and tatties to accompany whatever it is that has been boiled and then celebrated? Hopefully, it doesn't involve haggis...

And there you have it, my friends. The conversation has come full circle. We should soon know what's after supper -- at least in Moffat.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:13 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> 
> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's /Come
> On Over/.
> 
> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
> 
> Mike
> 
> Gary Brumm wrote:
> >
> > Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let's
> > compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
> >
> > How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
> > listen to his music and decide that
> >
> > it is "shite" how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
> > is just one more "opinion" and really
> >
> > didn't mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
> > shite then I would have agreed so.....hmmm J
> >
> > ....actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
> > group....I enjoyed it. I don't think I will be
> >
> > replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
> > geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
> >
> > ....just kidding.....Cheers....
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James
> > Parthun
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > He has and he's quite good....
> >
> > http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
> >
> > partune #872
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Brumm
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > Who put you in charge of musical taste.....music is subjective. Just
> > because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you
> > the judge.
> >
> > Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
> > compositions.......even if you don't like that style of music most any
> > musician would
> >
> > likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike
> Dickson
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > It's /shite./
> >
> > /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
> > As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more
> > likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
> > working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
> > whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
> > truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
> > Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
> > can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
> > /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > tony1 wrote:
> >
> >     Listen to Jim!
> >
> >     Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
> >
> >     It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
> >
> >     Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
> >     after it's release.
> >
> >     Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
> >     still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
> >     refreshes the feelings everytime.
> >
> >     My 2 cents worth,
> >
> >     Tony
> >
> >     #510
> >
> >         ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >         *From:* James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@att.net>
> >
> >         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
> >
> >         *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> >         Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
> >         Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
> >         the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
> >
> >         partune
> >
> >         #872
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >
> >         *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >         [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of
> >         *ceccles_ca
> >         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
> >         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >         *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> >         It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
> >         cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
> >         cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
> >         best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
> >         agreed on everything.
> >
> >         Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
> >         times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
> >         Red Bulls.
> >
> >         --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >         <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C.
> >         Doncourt" <tomdcour@... <mailto:tomdcour@...>> wrote:
> >         >
> >         > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
> >
> > Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
> > <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/> Or
> > http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
> > <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
> > Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
> > <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>
> > Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
> > <http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

From: Gary Brumm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:19 PM

That's true Mike but I would also imagine that there are rappers that out sold Shania.....it' s an ugly world at times..... :)

Cheers,

Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:13 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's /Come
> On Over/.
>
> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
>
> Mike
>
> Gary Brumm wrote:
> >
> > Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let's
> > compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
> >
> > How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
> > listen to his music and decide that
> >
> > it is "shite" how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
> > is just one more "opinion" and really
> >
> > didn't mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
> > shite then I would have agreed so.....hmmm J
> >
> > ....actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
> > group....I enjoyed it. I don't think I will be
> >
> > replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
> > geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
> >
> > ....just kidding..... Cheers... .
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *James
> > Parthun
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > He has and he's quite good....
> >
> > http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/ <http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/>
> >
> > partune #872
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > --
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Brumm
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > Who put you in charge of musical taste.....music is subjective. Just
> > because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you
> > the judge.
> >
> > Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
> > compositions. ......even if you don't like that style of music most any
> > musician would
> >
> > likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Mike
> Dickson
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > It's /shite./
> >
> > /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
> > As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more
> > likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
> > working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
> > whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
> > truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
> > Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
> > can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
> > /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > tony1 wrote:
> >
> > Listen to Jim!
> >
> > Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
> >
> > It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
> >
> > Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
> > after it's release.
> >
> > Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
> > still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
> > refreshes the feelings everytime.
> >
> > My 2 cents worth,
> >
> > Tony
> >
>; > #510
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > *From:* James Parthun james.parthun@ att.net>
> >
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com>
> >
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
>; > Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
> > Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
> > the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
> >
> > partune
> >
> > #872
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > --
> >
> >; *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> >; newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com>
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of
> > *ceccles_ca
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com>
> > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
> > cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
>; > cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
> > best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
> > agreed on everything.
> >
>; > Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
> > times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
> > Red Bulls.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:newmellotro ngroup%40yahoogr oups.com> , "Thomas C.
> > Doncourt" > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
> >
> > Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/
> > <http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/> Or
> > http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson
> > <http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson>
> > Or http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson
> > <http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson>
> > Or http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson
> > <http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Booooorrrrring! We've been over this ground again and again. Slow news day?

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

> -----Original Message-----
> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:13 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>
> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's /Come
> On Over/.
>
> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
>
> Mike
>
> Gary Brumm wrote:
> >
> > Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let's
> > compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
> >
> > How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
> > listen to his music and decide that
> >
> > it is "shite" how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
> > is just one more "opinion" and really
> >
> > didn't mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
> > shite then I would have agreed so.....hmmm J
> >
> > ....actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
> > group....I enjoyed it. I don't think I will be
> >
> > replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
> > geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
> >
> > ....just kidding..... Cheers... .
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *James
> > Parthun
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > He has and he's quite good....
> >
> > http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/<http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/> <http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/<http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>>
> >
> > partune #872
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > --
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Brumm
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > Who put you in charge of musical taste.....music is subjective. Just
> > because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you
> > the judge.
> >
> > Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
> > compositions. ......even if you don't like that style of music most any
> > musician would
> >
> > likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mike
> Dickson
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > It's /shite./
> >
> > /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
> > As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more
> > likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
> > working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
> > whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
> > truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
> > Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
> > can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
> > /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > tony1 wrote:
> >
> > Listen to Jim!
> >
> > Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
> >
> > It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
> >
> > Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
> > after it's release.
> >
> > Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
> > still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
> > refreshes the feelings everytime.
> >
> > My 2 cents worth,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > #510
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > *From:* James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@ att.net</mc/compose?to=james.parthun%40att.net>>
> >
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
> > Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
> > the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
> >
> > partune
> >
> > #872
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > --
> >
> > *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of
> > *ceccles_ca
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
> >
> > It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
> > cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
> > cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
> > best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
> > agreed on everything.
> >
> > Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
> > times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
> > Red Bulls.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com</mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:newmellotro ngroup%40yahoogr oups.com<mailto:newmellotro%20ngroup%40yahoogr%20oups.com>> , "Thomas C.
> > Doncourt" <tomdcour@.. . <mailto:tomdcour@ ...<mailto:tomdcour@..%20.%20%3cmailto:tomdcour@%20...>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
> >
> > Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/<http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
> > <http://www.mikedick son.org.uk/<http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>> Or
> > http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson<http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
> > <http://www.last. fm/music/ Mike+Dickson<http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>>
> > Or http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson<http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>
> > <http://soundcloud. com/mikedickson<http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>>
> > Or http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson<http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
> > <http://www.planetme llotron.com/ revd4.htm# mikedickson<http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:52 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?



Gary Brumm wrote:

>> Who put you in charge of musical taste...

Actually we had a meeting while you were out. We can send you the minutes if you like.

We also voted to cover Blechta in white tiles and use him as a urinal.

Mike

> Who brought up Topographic Oceans again?  Oh...It was me.  Regrets I've had a few.
>
> When they appeared in Toronto during the Topographic Oceans tour, the album had not been released yet.  The radio stations didn't even have it.  I think that most of the North American tour dates took place before the album had been heard by the audience.  They opened the show playing ALL of it. :-( 
>
> When they finally stopped playing, most of the audience was too sleepy to clap.  You know how people sometimes nod-off in Church?   That was the only concert I've seen where people were bobbing their heads drifting off to sleep.   Since that night I have always associated the Topographic Oceans album with being bored out of my mind.  
>
>
>   
>

From: "Mike Dickson" <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's
> /Come On Over/.
>
> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
>
> Mike
>
> Gary Brumm wrote:
>>
>> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let\ufffds
>> compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
>>
>> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
>> listen to his music and decide that
>>
>> it is \ufffdshite\ufffd how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
>> is just one more \ufffdopinion\ufffd and really
>>
>> didn\ufffdt mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
>> shite then I would have agreed so\ufffd..hmmm J
>>
>> \ufffd.actually I have listened to some of Mike\ufffds stuff from links in this
>> group\ufffd.I enjoyed it. I don\ufffdt think I will be
>>
>> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
>> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
>>
>> \ufffd.just kidding\ufffd..Cheers\ufffd.
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Parthun
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> He has and he\ufffds quite good\ufffd.
>>
>> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>>
>> partune #872
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Brumm
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> Who put you in charge of musical taste\ufffd..music is subjective. Just
>> because you don\ufffdt have the musical skill to play it doesn\ufffdt make you
>> the judge.
>>
>> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
>> compositions\ufffd\ufffd.even if you don\ufffdt like that style of music most any
>> musician would
>>
>> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Dickson
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> It's /shite./
>>
>> /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
>> As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more
>> likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
>> working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
>> whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
>> truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
>> Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
>> can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
>> /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> tony1 wrote:
>>
>>     Listen to Jim!
>>
>>     Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
>>
>>     It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
>>
>>     Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
>>     after it's release.
>>
>>     Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
>>     still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
>>     refreshes the feelings everytime.
>>
>>     My 2 cents worth,
>>
>>     Tony
>>
>>     #510
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>         *From:* James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@att.net>
>>
>>         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
>>
>>         *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>>         Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
>>         Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
>>         the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
>>
>>         partune
>>
>>         #872
>>
>>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>         *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>         [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of
>>         *ceccles_ca
>>         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
>>         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>         *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>>         It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
>>         cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
>>         cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
>>         best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
>>         agreed on everything.
>>
>>         Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
>>         times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
>>         Red Bulls.
>>
>>         --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C.
>>         Doncourt" <tomdcour@... <mailto:tomdcour@...>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>>
>> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
>> <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson 
>> <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
>> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>
>> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson 
>> <http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
> Tales was my first Yes show.My friend and I were chemically 
> influenced. No nodding at the Boston Garden that night and the lp had been out for close to a week I believe.
> Pete
> 
> ceccles_ca wrote:
> > Who brought up Topographic Oceans again?  Oh...It was me.  Regrets I've had a few.
> >
> > When they appeared in Toronto during the Topographic Oceans tour, the album had not been released yet.  The radio stations didn't even have it.  I think that most of the North American tour dates took place before the album had been heard by the audience.  They opened the show playing ALL of it. :-( 
> >
> > When they finally stopped playing, most of the audience was too sleepy to clap.  You know how people sometimes nod-off in Church?   That was the only concert I've seen where people were bobbing their heads drifting off to sleep.   Since that night I have always associated the Topographic Oceans album with being bored out of my mind.  
> >
> >
> >   
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:45 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?






















    

                  



Then he of all people should know that music is subjective.  Let’s compare his sales with Close to the Edge.  

How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music?  If I listen to his music and decide that 

it is “shite”  how would he feel about it?   My point was only that his is just one more “opinion” and really 

didn’t mean to offend anyone.  However if he had said rap music is shite then I would have agreed so…..hmmm J

….actually I have listened to some of Mike’s stuff from links in this group….I enjoyed it.  I don’t think I will be 

replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.  geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J  

….just kidding…..Cheers….

 




From: newme
llotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Parthun
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [n
ewmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?



 

  





He has and he’s quite good….

 

http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/

 


 

partune #872







From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


 

  





Who put you in charge of musical taste…..music is subjective.  Just because you don’t have the musical skill to play it doesn’t make you the judge.  

Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your compositions…….even if you don’t like that s
tyle of music most any musician would 

likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.

 

 




From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?



 

  




It's shite.

Close to the Edge has its moments but they are few and far between. As for Tales I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It truly is music with no
 redeeming features, not unlike Works or Humphrey Bogart's characters in Angels With Dirty Faces. If anyone can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like animals in an abattoir then please do so.

Mike

tony1 wrote: 


  



Listen to Jim!



Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.



It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon t
he pun).



 



Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years after it's release.



Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums refreshes the feelings everytime.



 



My 2 cents worth,



 



Tony



#510



 




----- Original Message ----- 



From: James Parthun 



To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM



Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?



 


  



Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates. 



partune 

#872







From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ceccles_ca
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


  




It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album cover
 art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few Red Bulls.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but 















-- 

Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

 

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 

Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson

Or http://soundcloud.com/mik
edickson

Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

-----Original Message-----
From: lsf5275@aol.com
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?






















    

                  




It's too late ... Yer in big trouble now, buster.


 




In a message dated 8/31/2009 10:13:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
gabru@comsec.net writes:



  
I wasn’t 
  criticizing Mike’s playing….in fact as I said in my post I enjoyed 
  it!

----- Original Message -----

From: ceccles_ca

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:37 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

I hope it wasn't LSD. Two hours would have felt like a month.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, marabus > wrote:
>
> Tales was my first Yes show.My friend and I were chemically
> influenced. No nodding at the Boston Garden that night and the lp had been out for close to a week I believe.
> Pete
>
> ceccles_ca wrote:
> > Who brought up Topographic Oceans again? Oh...It was me. Regrets I've had a few.
> >
> > When they appeared in Toronto during the Topographic Oceans tour, the album had not been released yet. The radio stations didn't even have it. I think that most of the North American tour dates took place before the album had been heard by the audience. They opened the show playing ALL of it. :-(
> >
> > When they finally stopped playing, most of the audience was too sleepy to clap. You know how people sometimes nod-off in Church? That was the only concert I've seen where people were bobbing their heads drifting off to sleep. Since that night I have always associated the Topographic Oceans album with being bored out of my mind.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: tony1

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:15 AM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

I saw them on LSD, and liked them very much!

Tony Unknown

#510

shhhhhhhhhh!

----- Original Message -----

From: ceccles_ca

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:37 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

I hope it wasn't LSD. Two hours would have felt like a month.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, marabus > wrote:
>
> Tales was my first Yes show.My friend and I were chemically
> influenced. No nodding at the Boston Garden that night and the lp had been out for close to a week I believe.
> Pete
>
> ceccles_ca wrote:
> > Who brought up Topographic Oceans again? Oh...It was me. Regrets I've had a few.
> >
> > When they appeared in Toronto during the Topographic Oceans tour, the album had not been released yet. The radio stations didn't even have it. I think that most of the North American tour dates took place before the album had been heard by the audience. They opened the show playing ALL of it. :-(
> >
> > When they finally stopped playing, most of the audience was too sleepy to clap. You know how people sometimes nod-off in Church? That was the only concert I've seen where people were bobbing their heads drifting off to sleep. Since that night I have always associated the Topographic Oceans album with being bored out of my mind.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:33 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Quality vs quantity lads.
New subject would be nice.
Maybe something from this century?
Tony
#510
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dickson" <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's
> /Come On Over/.
>
> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
>
> Mike
>
> Gary Brumm wrote:
>>
>> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let's
>> compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
>>
>> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
>> listen to his music and decide that
>>
>> it is "shite" how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
>> is just one more "opinion" and really
>>
>> didn't mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
>> shite then I would have agreed so...hmmm J
>>
>> ..actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
>> group..I enjoyed it. I don't think I will be
>>
>> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
>> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
>>
>> ..just kidding...Cheers..
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Parthun
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> He has and he's quite good..
>>
>> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>>
>> partune #872
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Brumm
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> Who put you in charge of musical taste...music is subjective. Just
>> because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you
>> the judge.
>>
>> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
>> compositions...even if you don't like that style of music most any
>> musician would
>>
>> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Dickson
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> It's /shite./
>>
>> /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
>> As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more
>> likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
>> working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
>> whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
>> truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
>> Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
>> can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
>> /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> tony1 wrote:
>>
>>     Listen to Jim!
>>
>>     Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
>>
>>     It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
>>
>>     Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
>>     after it's release.
>>
>>     Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
>>     still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
>>     refreshes the feelings everytime.
>>
>>     My 2 cents worth,
>>
>>     Tony
>>
>>     #510
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>         *From:* James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@att.net>
>>
>>         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
>>
>>         *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>>         Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
>>         Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
>>         the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
>>
>>         partune
>>
>>         #872
>>
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>         *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>         [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of
>>         *ceccles_ca
>>         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
>>         *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>         *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>>         It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
>>         cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
>>         cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
>>         best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
>>         agreed on everything.
>>
>>         Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
>>         times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
>>         Red Bulls.
>>
>>         --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>         <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C.
>>         Doncourt" <tomdcour@... <mailto:tomdcour@...>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>>
>> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
>> <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson 
>> <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
>> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>
>> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson 
>> <http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
>>
>>
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From: Rick Blechta
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 10:03 AM

On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch wrote:

This Century? This Century? I could pick a century out of a hat and come up
with a better one....

Let's discuss mellotrons in 12th century England and, by extension, Normandy, since the Normans controlled England at that time.

Care to kick it off, Mike? Martinge? Anyone?

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1  <atm655@verizon.atm>
To:  newmellotrongroup@To:  newmTo:
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2009 8:33  am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


Quality vs quantity lads.
 New subject would be nice.
 Maybe something from this century?
 Tony
 #510
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Mike Dickson" <_mike.dickson@mike.dick_ 
(mailto:mike.dickson@gmail.com) >
 To: <_newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
 Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 
 
 > Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's
 > /Come On Over/.
 >
 > Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
 >
 > Mike
 >
 > Gary Brumm wrote:
 >>
 >> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let’s
 >> compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
 >>
 >> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
 >> listen to his musi
 c and decide that
 >>
 >> it is “shite” how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
 >> is just one more “opinion” and really
 >>
 >> didn’t mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
 >> shite then I would have agreed so…..hmmm J
 >>
 >> ….actually I have listened to some of Mike’s stuff from links in this
 >> group….I enjoyed it. I don’t think I will be
 >>
 >> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
 >> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
 >>
 >> ….just kidding…..Cheers….
 >>
 >> *From:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >> [_mailto:newmellotronmailto:newmellotmailt_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) ] *On Behalf Of *James Parthun
 >> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
 >> *To:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 >>
 >> He has and he’s quite good….
 >>
 >> _http://www.mikedickhttp://www._ (http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/)  
<_http://www.mikedickhttp://www._ (http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/) >
 >>
 >> partune #872
 >>
 >> ------------ -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -----
0A>>
 >> *From:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >> [_mailto:newmellotronmailto:newmellotmailt_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) ] *On Behalf Of *Gary Brumm
 >> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
 >> *To:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 >>
 >> Who put you in charge of musical taste…..music is subjective. Just
 >> because you don’t have the musical skill to play it doesn’t make you
 >> the judge.
 >>
 >> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
 >> compositions…….even if you don’t like that style of music most any
 >> musician would
 >>
 >> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
 >>
 >> *From:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >> [_mailto:newmellotronmailto:newmellotmailt_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) ] *On Behalf Of *Mike Dickson
 >> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
 >> *To:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 >>
 >> It's /shite./
 >>
 >> /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
 >> As for /Tales/ I tried on the ins
 istence of a friend (who was more
 >> likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
 >> working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
 >> whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
 >> truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
 >> Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
 >> can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
 >> /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
 >>
 >> Mike
 >>
 >> tony1 wrote:
 >>
 >>     Listen to Jim!
 >>
 >>     Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
 >>
 >>     It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
 >>
 >>     Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
 >>     after it's release.
 >>
 >>     Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
 >>     still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
 >>     refreshes the feelings everytime.
 >>
 >>     My 2 cents worth,
 >>
 >>     Tony
 >>
 >>     #510
 >>
 >>         ----- Original Message -----
 >>
 >>         *From:* James Parthun <_mailto:james.mailto:jamesmai_ 
(mailto:james.parthun@att.net?) >
 >>
 >>         *To:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >>         <_mailto:newmellotronmailto:newmellotmailt_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) >
 >>
 >>         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
 >>
 >>         *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 >>
 >>         Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
 >>         Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
 >>         the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
 >>
 >>         partune
 >>
 >>         #872
 >>
 >>         ------------                                                    
        
 >>
 >>         *From:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >>         <_mailto:newmellotronmailto:newmellotmailt_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) >
 >>         [_mailto:newmellotronmailto:newmellotmailt_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) ] *On Behalf Of
 >>         *ceccles_ca
 >>         *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
 >>         *To:* _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >>         <_mailto:newm
 ellotrongroup@mailto:newm
mai_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) >
 >>         *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
 >>
 >>         It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
 >>         cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
 >>         cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
 >>         best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
 >>         agreed on everything.
 >>
 >>         Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
 >>         times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
 >>         Red Bulls.
 >>
 >>         --- In _newmellotrongroup@newmellotronnew_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
 >>         <_mailto:newmellotronmailto:newmellotmailto:_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com?) >, "Thomas C.
 >>         Doncourt" <tomdcour@... <_mailto:tomdcour@_ (mailto:tomdcour@?) 
...>> wrote:
 >>         >
 >>         > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> -- 
 >> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
 >>
 >> Free Music Project: _http://www.mikedickhttp://www._ 
(http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/)  
 >> <_http://www.mikedickhttp://www._ (http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/) >
 >> Or _http://www.last.http://wwhttp://www.l_ 
(http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson)  
 >> <_http://www.last.http://wwhttp://www.l_ 
(http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson) >
 >> Or _http://soundcloud.http://soundclo_ 
(http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson)  <_http://soundcloud.http://soundclo_ 
(http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson) >
 >> Or _http://www.planetmehttp://www.phttp://wwwhttp://www._ 
(http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson)  
 >> <_http://www.planetmehttp://www.phttp://wwwhttp://www._ 
(http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson) >
 >>
 >>
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From: tony1
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2009 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


Quality vs quantity lads.

New subject would be nice.

Maybe something from this century?

Tony

#510

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mike Dickson"

To:

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:12 AM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?





> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's

> /Come On Over/.

>

> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!

>

> Mike

>

> Gary Brumm wrote:

>>

>> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let\u2019s

>> compare his sales with Close to the Edge.

>>

>> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I

>> listen to his musi
c and decide that

>>

>> it is \u201cshite\u201d how would he feel about it? My point was only that his

>> is just one more \u201copinion\u201d and really

>>

>> didn\u2019t mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is

>> shite then I would have agreed so\u2026..hmmm J

>>

>> \u2026.actually I have listened to some of Mike\u2019s stuff from links in this

>> group….I enjoyed it. I don\u2019t think I will be

>>

>> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.

>> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J

>>

>> \u2026.just kidding\u2026..Cheers\u2026.

>>

>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *James Parthun

>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM

>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

>>

>> He has and he\u2019s quite goodR30;.

>>

>> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/

>>

>> partune #872

>>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
0A>>

>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>;> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Gary Brumm

>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM

>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

>>

>> Who put you in charge of musical taste\u2026..music is subjective. Just

>> because you don\u2019t have the musical skill to play it doesn\u2019t make you

>> the judge.

>>

>> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your

>> compositions\u2026\u2026.even if you don\u2019t like that style of music most any

>> musician would

>>

>> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.

>>

>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Mike Dickson

>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM

>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

>>

>> It's /shite./

>>

>> /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.

>> As for /Tales/ I tried on the ins
istence of a friend (who was more

>> likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while

>> working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering

>> whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It

>> truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or

>> Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone

>> can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like

>> /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.

>>

>> Mike

>>

>> tony1 wrote:

>>

>> Listen to Jim!

>>

>> Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.

>>

>> It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).

>>

>> Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years

>> after it's release.

>>

>> Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are

>> still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums

>> ;refreshes the feelings everytime.

>>

>> My 2 cents worth,

>>

>> Tony

>>

>> ; #510

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>>

>> *From:* James Parthun >

>>

>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>;> >

>>

>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM

>>

>> ; *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

>>

>> ; Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic

>> Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of

>> the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.

>>

>> partune

>>

>> #872

>>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>> >

>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of

>> *ceccles_ca

>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM

>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>> <mailto:newm
ellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >

>> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

>>

>> It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album

>> cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album

>> cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the

>> best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone

>> ; agreed on everything.

>>

>> Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many

>> ; times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few

>> ; Red Bulls.

>>

>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

>> >, "Thomas C.

>>; Doncourt" ...>> wrote:

>> >

>> ; > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

>>

>> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/

>>

>> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson

>>

>> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson

>> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson

>>

>>

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From: Pomeroy RH Ranch

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:58 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

This Century? This Century? I could pick a century out of a hat and come up
with a better one....

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:33 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Quality vs quantity lads.
New subject would be nice.
Maybe something from this century?
Tony
#510
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Dickson" <;mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's
> /Come On Over/.
>
> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
>
> Mike
>
> Gary Brumm wrote:
>>
>> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let's
>> compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
>>
>> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
>> listen to his music and decide that
>>
>> it is "shite" how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
>> is just one more "opinion" and really
>>
>> didn't mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
>> shite then I would have agreed so...hmmm J
>>
>> ..actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
>> group..I enjoyed it. I don't think I will be
>>
>> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
>> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
>>
>> ..just kidding...Cheers..
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Parthun
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>;
>> He has and he's quite good..
>>
>> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>>
>> partune #872
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Brumm
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> Who put you in charge of musical taste...music is subjective. Just
>> because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you
>> the judge.
>>
>> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
>> compositions...even if you don't like that style of music most any
>> musician would
>>
>> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Dickson
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>; *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> It's /shite./
>>
>> /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
>> As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more
>> likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
>> working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
>> whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
>> truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
>> Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
>> can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
>> /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> tony1 wrote:
>>
>> Listen to Jim!
>>
>> Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
>>
>> It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
>>
>> Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
>> after it's release.
>>
>> Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
>> still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
>> refreshes the feelings everytime.
>>
>> My 2 cents worth,
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> #510
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* James Parthun james.parthun@att.net>
>>
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
>> Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
>> the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
>>
>> partune
>>
>> #872
>>
>>
----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of
>> *ceccles_ca
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>;> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
>> cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
>> cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
>> best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
>> agreed on everything.
>>
>> Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
>> times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
>> Red Bulls.
>>
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> ngroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C.
>> Doncourt" . ...>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>>
>> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
>> <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
>> <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
>> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>
>> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
>> <http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
>>
>>
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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:37 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?


12th century?  Yeah. Those hand-cranked 'Trons had horrible wow & flutter, in spite of the big stone flywheels.  But some people actually liked that sound...

  -Bruce D.


--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com<mailto:rick@rickblechta.com>> wrote:

From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com<mailto:rick@rickblechta.com>>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 10:03 AM


On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch wrote:


This Century? This Century? I could pick a century out of a hat and come up
with a better one....

Let's discuss mellotrons in 12th century England and, by extension, Normandy, since the Normans controlled England at that time.

Care to kick it off, Mike? Martinge? Anyone?

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:55 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

Yea I didn't stutter did I?

In case you've forgotten the Mellotron was invented in the 20th century.

This is the 21st century, get it now?

Come up with a century when we had Mellotrons that isn't in either one I
mentioned.

 

Tony

you know the number

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Pomeroy <mailto:punchbowl4@earthlink.net>  RH Ranch 

To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:58 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

 

  

This Century? This Century? I could pick a century out of a hat and come up
with a better one....

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:33 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Quality vs quantity lads.
New subject would be nice.
Maybe something from this century?
Tony
#510
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dickson" <mike.dickson@ <mailto:mike.dickson%40gmail.com>
gmail.com>
To: <newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's
> /Come On Over/.
>
> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
>
> Mike
>
> Gary Brumm wrote:
>>
>> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let's
>> compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
>>
>> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
>> listen to his music and decide that
>>
>> it is "shite" how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
>> is just one more "opinion" and really
>>
>> didn't mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
>> shite then I would have agreed so...hmmm J
>>
>> ..actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
>> group..I enjoyed it. I don't think I will be
>>
>> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
>> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
>>
>> ..just kidding...Cheers..
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Parthun
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> He has and he's quite good..
>>
>> http://www.mikedick <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/> son.org.uk/
<http://www.mikedick <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/> son.org.uk/>
>>
>> partune #872
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Brumm
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> Who put you in charge of musical taste...music is subjective. Just
>> because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you
>> the judge.
>>
>> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
>> compositions...even if you don't like that style of music most any
>> musician would
>>
>> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Dickson
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> It's /shite./
>>
>> /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
>> As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more
>> likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
>> working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
>> whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
>> truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
>> Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
>> can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
>> /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> tony1 wrote:
>>
>> Listen to Jim!
>>
>> Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
>>
>> It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
>>
>> Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
>> after it's release.
>>
>> Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
>> still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
>> refreshes the feelings everytime.
>>
>> My 2 cents worth,
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> #510
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* James Parthun <mailto:james.parthun@
<mailto:james.parthun%40att.net> att.net>
>>
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
>> Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
>> the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
>>
>> partune
>>
>> #872
>>
>>
----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of
>> *ceccles_ca
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
>> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
>> cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
>> cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
>> best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
>> agreed on everything.
>>
>> Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
>> times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
>> Red Bulls.
>>
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C.
>> Doncourt" <tomdcour@... <mailto:tomdcour@...>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>>
>> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedick <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
son.org.uk/ 
>> <http://www.mikedick <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/> son.org.uk/>
>> Or http://www.last. <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
fm/music/Mike+Dickson 
>> <http://www.last. <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
>> Or http://soundcloud. <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson> com/mikedickson
<http://soundcloud. <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson> com/mikedickson>
>> Or http://www.planetme
<http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
llotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson 
>> <http://www.planetme
<http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
llotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
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-----Original Message-----
From: lsf5275@aol.com
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2009 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?






















    

                  




OhhhhKaayyy. How about the rest of him?


?




In a message dated 9/1/2009 10:58:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
fdoddy@aol.com writes:


I hate 
  Mike's ass

From: Pomeroy RH Ranch

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:42 PM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Sorry – it’s a movie quote from “Sabrina”….just a commentary on modernity

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:55 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Yea I didn't stutter did I?

In case you've forgotten the Mellotron was invented in the 20th century.

This is the 21st century, get it now?

Come up with a century when we had Mellotrons that isn't in either one I mentioned.

Tony

you know the number

----- Original Message -----

From: Pomeroy RH Ranch

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:58 AM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

This Century? This Century? I could pick a century out of a hat and come up
with a better one....

-----Original Message-----
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tony1
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:33 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

Quality vs quantity lads.
New subject would be nice.
Maybe something from this century?
Tony
#510
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Dickson" <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?

> Now let's compare 'Close to the Edge World' sales with Shania Twain's
> /Come On Over/.
>
> Wow. Shania wins! Yes pack up and go home! We all win!
>
> Mike
>
> Gary Brumm wrote:
>>
>> Then he of all people should know that music is subjective. Let's
>> compare his sales with Close to the Edge.
>>
>> How do most people feel about his music as compared to Yes music? If I
>> listen to his music and decide that
>>
>> it is "shite" how would he feel about it? My point was only that his
>> is just one more "opinion" and really
>>
>> didn't mean to offend anyone. However if he had said rap music is
>> shite then I would have agreed so...hmmm J
>>
>> ..actually I have listened to some of Mike's stuff from links in this
>> group..I enjoyed it. I don't think I will be
>>
>> replacing any of my Yes recordings with it but still I enjoyed it.
>> geeeze, I agree with Tony and look what I get J
>>
>> ..just kidding...Cheers..
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Parthun
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> He has and he's quite good..
>>
>> http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>>
>> partune #872
>>
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>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Brumm
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:13 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> Who put you in charge of musical taste...music is subjective. Just
>> because you don't have the musical skill to play it doesn't make you
>> the judge.
>>
>> Please post some of your recordings so we can compare it to your
>> compositions...even if you don't like that style of music most any
>> musician would
>>
>> likely appreciate the skill it took to write and perform.
>>
>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Dickson
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 12:57 PM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> It's /shite./
>>
>> /Close to the Edge /has its moments but they are few and far between.
>> As for /Tales/ I tried on the insistence of a friend (who was more
>> likely a twat) to get into that album by playing it in the dark, while
>> working, while doing nothing, while bathing, cooking, hoovering
>> whatever. I must have played it through about eight or nine times. It
>> truly is music with *no redeeming features*, not unlike /Works /or
>;> Humphrey Bogart's characters in /Angels With Dirty Faces/. If anyone
>> can really point me out to any part of it that doesn't sound like
>> /animals in an abattoir/ then please do so.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> tony1 wrote:
>>
>> Listen to Jim!
>>
>> Topographic Oceans is a masterpiece, in my opinion.
>>
>> It's something (like water) to immerse yourself in (pardon the pun).
>>
>> Sorry but it can'thelp to be introduced to the piece so many years
>> after it's release.
>>
>> Times and tastes have changed, but Close to the Edge and Tales are
>> still fresh to my ears and many live experiences with both albums
>> refreshes the feelings everytime.
>>
>> My 2 cents worth,
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> #510
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>;>
>> *From:* James Parthun james.parthun@att.net>
>>
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:06 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> Caffeine will not help in the attempt to enjoy Topographic
>> Oceans. It will only frustrate you. Try the opposite end of
>> the narcotic spectrum- barbiturates.
>>
>> partune
>>
>> #872
>>
>>
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>> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of
>> *ceccles_ca
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 8:44 AM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: What's after supper?
>>
>> It doesn't matter if we are talking about the music, album
>> cover art, lyrics or mullets. I can say that the Tarkus album
>> cover art was complete crap. Someone else can say it was the
>>; best album cover ever. It would be awfully boring if everyone
>;> agreed on everything.
>>
>> Speaking of boring... Topographic Oceans - I've tried many
>> times to get into that album. I will try again, after a few
>> Red Bulls.
>>
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> ngroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas C.
>> Doncourt" . ...>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry, not looking to piss anybody off but
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
>>
>> Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/
>> <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/>
>> Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
>> <http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson>
>> Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson <http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson>
>> Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson
>> <http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson>
>>
>>
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, marabus <marabus@...> wrote:
>   
>> Tales was my first Yes show.My friend and I were chemically 
>> influenced. No nodding at the Boston Garden that night and the lp had been out for close to a week I believe.
>> Pete
>>
>> ceccles_ca wrote:
>>     
>>> Who brought up Topographic Oceans again?  Oh...It was me.  Regrets I've had a few.
>>>
>>> When they appeared in Toronto during the Topographic Oceans tour, the album had not been released yet.  The radio stations didn't even have it.  I think that most of the North American tour dates took place before the album had been heard by the audience.  They opened the show playing ALL of it. :-( 
>>>
>>> When they finally stopped playing, most of the audience was too sleepy to clap.  You know how people sometimes nod-off in Church?   That was the only concert I've seen where people were bobbing their heads drifting off to sleep.   Since that night I have always associated the Topographic Oceans album with being bored out of my mind.  
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