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Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-12 by David Jacques

The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the high end roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken several times about changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound. I don't believe it was totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this sound as you can hear it even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E


Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-12 by Vance Pomeroy

But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

On 10/12/2011 6:51 AM, David Jacques wrote:
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The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the high end roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken several times about changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound. I don't believe it was totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this sound as you can hear it even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E


OT - R.I.P. Bert Jansch

2011-10-12 by Robert

Legendary Scottish folk musician, Bert Jansch passed away last week. I have spent numerous hours enjoying his albums including those with John Renbourn and their group Pentangle.

As a record collector, I was a latecomer to the folk music scene; it wasn't until the mid 80's that I began to listen to various styles of folk music that was recorded from the late 50's through the 70's.

Robert

http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/articles/228180/20111010/music-legend-bert-jansch-die-lung-cancer.htm

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/bert-jansch-p2020/biography

http://www.bertjansch.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-HkBak9lmM

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-12 by john barrick

From my understanding, the "solid state" is referring to modifications that Mike had made to his Mk II.
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Vance Pomeroy <vance@juniperpacific.com> wrote:

But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.



On 10/12/2011 6:51 AM, David Jacques wrote:

The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the high end roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken several times about changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound. I don't believe it was totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this sound as you can hear it even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E
--
john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT - R.I.P. Bert Jansch

2011-10-12 by john barrick

I hope that Jimmy Page takes a moment to remember him.
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:

Legendary Scottish folk musician, Bert Jansch passed away last week. I have spent numerous hours enjoying his albums including those with John Renbourn and their group Pentangle.

As a record collector, I was a latecomer to the folk music scene; it wasn't until the mid 80's that I began to listen to various styles of folk music that was recorded from the late 50's through the 70's.

Robert
--
john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT - R.I.P. Bert Jansch

2011-10-12 by Mark

Sad to hear that, saw him play many times in the early 70's, Basket of Light was the first LP I bought, I've still got it somewhere.

Mark
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:

Legendary Scottish folk musician, Bert Jansch passed away last week. I have spent numerous hours enjoying his albums including those with John Renbourn and their group Pentangle.

As a record collector, I was a latecomer to the folk music scene; it wasn't until the mid 80's that I began to listen to various styles of folk music that was recorded from the late 50's through the 70's.

Robert




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-HkBak9lmM


Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-12 by tron400

He did eventually install a solid state preamp, but I don't think he had it when NIWS was recorded.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...> wrote:
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>
> From my understanding, the "solid state" is referring to modifications that
> Mike had made to his Mk II.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Vance Pomeroy <vance@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > ** But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.
> >
> >
> > On 10/12/2011 6:51 AM, David Jacques wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the high end
> > roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken several times about
> > changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound. I don't believe it was
> > totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this sound as you can hear it
> > even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this one:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E
> >
> > --
> john barrick
> 
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-12 by Bill Rudloff

Days of Future Past and In Search of the Lost Chord used the original MKII preamp.  By late 1968 to early 1969 the new preamp was installed.  If you listen to any live recordings prior to 1969, the sound is much harsher on the tron than anything live from 1969 onwards.
Bill Rudloff


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To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 9:01 am
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


  
    
                  
He did eventually install a solid state preamp, but I don't think he had it when NIWS was recorded.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...> wrote:
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>
> From my understanding, the "solid state" is referring to modifications that
> Mike had made to his Mk II.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Vance Pomeroy <vance@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > ** But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.
> >
> >
> > On 10/12/2011 6:51 AM, David Jacques wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the high end
> > roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken several times about
> > changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound. I don't believe it was
> > totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this sound as you can hear it
> > even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this one:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E
> >
> > --
> john barrick
> 
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-12 by John Wright

I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt.  Although,
wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?

 

John

#911
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Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound

 

  

But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

On 10/12/2011 6:51 AM, David Jacques wrote: 

	  

	The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the
high end roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken
several times about changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound.
I don't believe it was totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this
sound as you can hear it even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this
one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-12 by Vance Pomeroy

I've seen both - the nameplate in the shadows of the video appear to be from a Hiwatt

On 10/12/2011 12:57 PM, John Wright wrote:
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I\u2019ve seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn\u2019t Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?

John

#911

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound

But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

On 10/12/2011 6:51 AM, David Jacques wrote:

The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the high end roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken several times about changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound. I don't believe it was totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this sound as you can hear it even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Bruce Daily

Hi all-
   I have wondered what Mike Pinder was trying to accomplish with his different equalization.  Was it aimed at smoothing the harshness out, or reducing the inherent MK2 noise (something Jerry Korb was able to figure out), to punch through better when playing live, or just to make the instruments sound clearer to Mike's own ears?
   Has Mr. Pinder ever been asked about this?
 
   The live video was great, by the way!
 
   -Bruce D.
 


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From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


 
   
 
Days of Future Past and In Search of the Lost Chord used the original MKII preamp.  By late 1968 to early 1969 the new preamp was installed.  If you listen to any live recordings prior to 1969, the sound is much harsher on the tron than anything live from 1969 onwards.
Bill Rudloff

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To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 9:01 am
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


  
He did eventually install a solid state preamp, but I don't think he had it when NIWS was recorded.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...> wrote:
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>
> From my understanding, the "solid state" is referring to modifications that
> Mike had made to his Mk II.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Vance Pomeroy <vance@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > ** But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.
> >
> >
> > On 10/12/2011 6:51 AM, David Jacques wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the high end
> > roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken several times about
> > changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound. I don't believe it was
> > totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this sound as you can hear it
> > even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this one:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E
> >
> > --
> john barrick
> 
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Gary Brumm

HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall.  It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
It was built by Dave Reeves  as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
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I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt.  Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?

John
#911

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound



But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

On 10/12/2011 6:51 AM, David Jacques wrote:

The Mark II 3 Violin sounds that Pinder achieved was due to the high end roll-off the solid state amp gave him. Pinder has spoken several times about changing the amp in his tron to achieve this sound. I don't believe it was totally Tony Clark's mastery that achieved this sound as you can hear it even in the raw YouTube live clips, like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITFMZ_M13E

Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by stevebowd

Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall.  It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves  as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> 
> 
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt.  Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
> 
> John
> #911
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> 
> 
> 
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Tom Doncourt

I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:



Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>; Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.


RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Gary Brumm

Yes, I was a HIWATT dealer and service center and some of the earlier Sound City amps were almost identical.
I still have several HIWATTS but the original company is long gone.  I really like the Orange stuff as well and I
do remember the Matamp although never played through one.....I did hear very good things about them.


From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of stevebowd
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:56 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound




Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@...<mailto:gabru@...>> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Gary Brumm

Was it a "Reeves" amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound



I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:





Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk<http://www.matamp.co.uk/>

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@...<mailto:gabru@...>> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Tom Doncourt

Reeves 12 watt combo
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:


Was it a “Reeves” amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:





Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From:
newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
>; Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>;
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by david.jacques@csulb.edu

Look behind almost every british rock group of the late 60's and through the 70's and chances are you will see stacks of Hiwatt's.

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Was it a “Reeves” amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:





Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Nick Hewitt

Bruce Daily wrote:
>Hi all-
>I have wondered what Mike Pinder was trying to accomplish with his different equalization. Was it aimed at smoothing the harshness out, or reducing the inherent MK2 noise (something Jerry Korb was able to figure out), to punch through better when playing live, or just to make the instruments sound clearer to Mike's own ears?
>Has Mr. Pinder ever been asked about this?

You may care to investigate http://www.mikepinder.com/phpBB2/index.php. As well as myself, at least one other member of this Yahoo group is registered on this forum. I reckon that if you ask nicely, you'll get an answer, but it might take a bit of time.

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Gary Brumm

Dave Reeves has been dead since the early 80's.  The Reeves amps look very much like the original HIWATT.
I did some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA.  A lot of people have made them
over the years but the originals certainly set a high standard.  Harry Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT
made HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000.  The HIWATT amplifier has been produced in many
variations (I worked on the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can be beat.


From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound



Reeves 12 watt combo
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:




Was it a "Reeves" amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound



I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.


On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:






Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk<http://www.matamp.co.uk/>

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From: <mailto:gabru@...> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Gary Brumm

I played British and have a picture of me playing through two 50 watt heads on top of two stacked 4X12 cabs.
The bass player played through (my) HIWATT 400.  The other guitar player played through a 100 watt
Marshall stack.  My ears are still ringing........

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of david.jacques@csulb.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:03 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound



Look behind almost every british rock group of the late 60's and through the 70's and chances are you will see stacks of Hiwatt's.

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:56:10 -0400
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Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


Was it a "Reeves" amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
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To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound



I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:






Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk<http://www.matamp.co.uk/>

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@...<mailto:gabru@...>> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by David Jacques

The guitarist in a former band of mine had a 50 w Harry Joyce signed Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for it.... Sounded fantastic.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary Brumm" <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

Dave Reeves has been dead since the early 80’s. The Reeves amps look very much like the original HIWATT.

I did some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA. A lot of people have made them

over the years but the originals certainly set a high standard. Harry Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT

made HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000. The HIWATT amplifier has been produced in many

variations (I worked on the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can be beat.

Show quoted textHide quoted text

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

Reeves 12 watt combo

On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:



Was it a “Reeves” amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:






Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From:
newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by David Jacques

Should have said "hiwatt"

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David Jacques" <david.jacques@csulb.edu> wrote:

The guitarist in a former band of mine had a 50 w Harry Joyce signed Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for it.... Sounded fantastic.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary Brumm" <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

Dave Reeves has been dead since the early 80’s. The Reeves amps look very much like the original HIWATT.

I did some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA. A lot of people have made them

over the years but the originals certainly set a high standard. Harry Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT

made HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000. The HIWATT amplifier has been produced in many

variations (I worked on the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can be beat.

Show quoted textHide quoted text

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

Reeves 12 watt combo

On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:



Was it a “Reeves” amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:






Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>;
> From:
newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Gary Brumm

I even used an old 50 watt to power a Leslie 122 at one point when I had my first C3.....

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


Should have said "hiwatt"

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David Jacques" <david.jacques@csulb.edu<mailto:david.jacques@csulb.edu>> wrote:

The guitarist in a former band of mine had a 50 w Harry Joyce signed Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for it.... Sounded fantastic.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary Brumm" <gabru@comsec.net<mailto:gabru@comsec.net>> wrote:

Dave Reeves has been dead since the early 80's.  The Reeves amps look very much like the original HIWATT.
I did some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA.  A lot of people have made them
over the years but the originals certainly set a high standard.  Harry Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT
made HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000.  The HIWATT amplifier has been produced in many
variations (I worked on the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can be beat.


From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound



Reeves 12 watt combo
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:





Was it a "Reeves" amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound



I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.


On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:







Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From: <mailto:gabru@...> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by tronbros

Personally, I don't think anyone should ever ask again about the Moodies' mellotron sound as it seems to crop up every few months and is answered every time!  Remember what has been said then move on.  It doesn't bare repetition.  The next person wot arsks gets beaten with a wet banana.

M

mellotronics.co.uk
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On 14 Oct 2011, at 00:00, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

> I even used an old 50 watt to power a Leslie 122 at one point when I had my first C3….. 
> 
>  
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM
> To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Should have said & quot;hiwatt"
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David Jacques" <david.jacques@csulb.edu> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> The guitarist in a former band of mine had a 50 w Harry Joyce signed Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for it.... Sounded fantastic. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary Brumm" <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Dave Reeves has been dead since the early 80’s.  The Reeves amps look very much like the ori ginal HIWATT. 
> 
> I did some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA.  A lot of people have made them
> 
> over the years but the originals certainly set a high standard.  Harry Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT
> 
> made HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000.  The HIWATT amplifier has been produced in many
> 
> variations (I worked on the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can be beat.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound
> 
>  
> 
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> Reeves 12 watt combo
> 
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:
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>  
> 
> Was it a “Reeves” amp or a HIWATT?
> 
>  
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:< /b> Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound
> 
>  
> 
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> 
> I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.
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> 
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:
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> 
> Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
> Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
> http://www.matamp.co.uk
> 
> Steve (tube amp nerd)
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
> >
> > HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> > It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
> > 
> > From: newmellotrongroup@y ahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> > 
> > 
> > I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
> > 
> > John
> > #911
> > 
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> > Sent: W ednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-13 by Mark

I can't even remember what I said when I started this thread! And I';m too lazy to go back and look. I still think the Mark II has a different sound to the M400. Lets face it if we couldn't go round and start again the list would die, I think that all that can be said about trons has been said on the list already.

Oddly enough I was listening to one of my things which used the M-tron 3 violins and that same quality could still be heard, I think that M-tron was sampled from a Mark II, if not I'm going to look a bit silly ( again )

Mark

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:

Personally, I don't think anyone should ever ask again about the Moodies' mellotron sound as it seems to crop up every few months and is answered every time! Remember what has been said then move on. It doesn't bare repetition. The next person wot arsks gets beaten with a wet banana.


On 14 Oct 2011, at 00:00, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>; wrote:

I even used an old 50 watt to power a Leslie 122 at one point when I had my first C3…..

Show quoted textHide quoted text

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

Should have said & quot;hiwatt"


Sent from my iPad


On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David Jacques" <david.jacques@csulb.edu> wrote:

The guitarist in a former band of mine had a 50 w Harry Joyce signed Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for it.... Sounded fantastic.

Sent from my iPad


On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary Brumm" <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

Dave Reeves has been dead since the early 80’s. The Reeves amps look very much like the ori ginal HIWATT.

I did some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA. A lot of people have made them

over the years but the originals certainly set a high standard. Harry Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT

made HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000. The HIWATT amplifier has been produced in many

variations (I worked on the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can be beat.

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

Reeves 12 watt combo

On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:




Was it a “Reeves” amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject:< /b> Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:







Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From:
newmellotrongroup@y ahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: W ednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.


Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-14 by lsf5275@aol.com

Sometimes it bares repeating. Some of us are not so young anymore Mr.  
Smith, and occasionally we get a new member..
 
me
 
 
In a message dated 10/13/2011 7:12:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tronbros@aol.com writes:

 
 
 
Personally, I don't think anyone should ever ask again about the Moodies'  
mellotron sound as it seems to crop up every few months and is answered 
every  time!  Remember what has been said then move on.  It doesn't bare  
repetition.  The next person wot arsks gets beaten with a wet  banana.


M

_mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://mellotronics.co.uk/)   






On 14 Oct 2011, at 00:00, Gary Brumm <_gabru@comsec.net_ 
(mailto:gabru@comsec.net) > wrote:





 
 
I even used  an old 50 watt to power a Leslie 122 at one point when I had 
my first  C3…..   
 
 
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David  
Jacques
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM
To:  <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

 
 
 
 
Should have said & quot;hiwatt"
 

Sent from my iPad
 

On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David Jacques" <_david.jacques@csulb.edu_ 
(mailto:david.jacques@csulb.edu) >  wrote:

 
 
 
The guitarist in a former band of mine had a 50 w Harry  Joyce signed 
Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for it.... Sounded  fantastic. 

Sent from my iPad
 

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary Brumm" <_gabru@comsec.net_ 
(mailto:gabru@comsec.net) >  wrote:

 
 
 
Dave  Reeves has been dead since the early 80’s.  The Reeves amps look  
very much like the ori ginal HIWATT.   
I did  some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA.  A  
lot of people have made them  
over  the years but the originals certainly set a high standard.  Harry  
Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT  
made  HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000.  The HIWATT  
amplifier has been produced in many  
variations (I worked on the 20  & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but 
the originals can be  beat. 
 
 
From:  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   _[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]_ 
(mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com])   On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13,  2011 1:59 PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron  Sound

 
 
 
Reeves 12 watt combo 
 
 
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm  wrote:




 
 

 
Was it a “Reeves” amp or a  HIWATT? 
 
 
From:  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   _[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]_ 
(mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com])   On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13,  2011 12:01 PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:<  /b> Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron  Sound

 
 
 
I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play  the tron through and I love it. 
 
 
 
On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56  PM, stevebowd wrote:





 


Dave Reeves was under conract to  provide amplifiers for Sound City, but 
once the contract ended, he  naturally decided to focus entirely on his own 
Hiwatt brand. So not all  Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to  do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by 
one of the great unsung  heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his 
company Matamp. They  are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're 
still around:
_http://www.matamp.co.uk_ (http://www.matamp.co.uk/) 

Steve  (tube amp nerd)

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Gary Brumm <_gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to  Marshall. It was a much higher quality 
build and a very versatile series  of amplifiers.
> It was built by  Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange 
amplifiers.
> 
> From: _ (mailto:gabru@...) _newmellotrongroup@y ahoogroups.com_ 
(http://ahoogroups.com/)  [mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57  PM
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
>  Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> 
>  
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt.  Although, 
wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
> 
>  John
> #911
> 
> From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) <_mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >  [mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
]<mailto:[mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ]>  On Behalf Of 
Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: W ednesday, October 12, 2011  11:49 AM
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) <mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> 
>  
> 
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top  of the tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-14 by Bruce Daily

Hi all-
  When the leaves turn colors and start to fall, it takes me back to a time I discovered the Moodies as a teen.  It was a very memorable time.  This happens every year.  All their music then ends up on my car stereo, and I take long drives.
  I, too, marvel at the mystery of their sound.  This group has answered many of the questions, and more will surely come.
   With all respect, I hope my comments aren't like fingernails on a chalkboard to you, Martin.  ;-)
 
   -Bruce D.
 


________________________________
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: "lsf5275@aol.com" <lsf5275@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


 
   
 
 Sometimes it bares repeating. Some of us are not so young anymore Mr. 
Smith, and occasionally we get a new member.. 

me 

In a message dated 10/13/2011 7:12:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
tronbros@aol.com writes: 
  
>Personally, I don't think anyone should ever ask again about the Moodies'  mellotron sound as it seems to crop up every few months and is answered every  time!  Remember what has been said then move on.  It doesn't bare  repetition.  The next person wot arsks gets beaten with a wet  banana. 
>
> 
>M
>
>mellotronics.co.uk 
>
>
>
> 
>
>On 14 Oct 2011, at 00:00, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
>
>  
>  
>>I even used  an old 50 watt to power a Leslie 122 at one point when I had my first  C3…..    
>>From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David  Jacques
>>Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM
>>To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound 
>>   
>>Should have said & quot;hiwatt" 
>>
>>Sent from my iPad 
>>
>>On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David Jacques" <david.jacques@csulb.edu>  wrote: 
>>   
>>>The guitarist in a former band of mine had a 50 w Harry  Joyce signed Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for it.... Sounded  fantastic. 
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPad 
>>>
>>>On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary Brumm" <gabru@comsec.net>  wrote: 
>>>   
>>>>Dave  Reeves has been dead since the early 80’s.  The Reeves amps look  very much like the ori ginal HIWATT.   
>>>>I did  some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA.  A  lot of people have made them  
>>>>over  the years but the originals certainly set a high standard.  Harry  Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT  
>>>>made  HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000.  The HIWATT  amplifier has been produced in many  
>>>>variations (I worked on the 20  & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can be  beat.   
>>>>From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 13,  2011 1:59 PM
>>>>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron  Sound 
>>>>   
>>>>Reeves 12 watt combo 
>>>>On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm  wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>Was it a “Reeves” amp or a  HIWATT?  
>>>>From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 13,  2011 12:01 PM
>>>>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>>>Subject:<  /b> Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron  Sound   
>>>>I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play  the tron through and I love it. 
>>>>On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56  PM, stevebowd wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dave Reeves was under conract to 
        provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he 
        naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all 
        Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
>>>>Dave Reeves had nothing to 
        do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung 
        heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They 
        are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
>>>>http://www.matamp.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>>Steve 
        (tube amp nerd)
>>>>
>>>>--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,  Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> HIWATT was in no way related to  Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series  of amplifiers.
>>>>> It was built by  Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: newmellotrongroup@y ahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]  On Behalf Of John Wright
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 
        PM
>>>>> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> 
        Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. 
        Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
        John
>>>>> #911
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]>  On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
>>>>> Sent: W ednesday, October 12, 2011 
        11:49 AM
>>>>> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> 
        Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top 
        of the tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-14 by lsf5275@aol.com

Is that about the time when...
 
"The White Eagle of the North
Is flying overhead
And the browns, reds and golds of Autumn
Lie in the gutter, dead?"
 
 
In a message dated 10/14/2011 1:07:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pocotron@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
 
Hi all-
  When the leaves turn colors and start to fall, it takes  me back to a 
time I discovered the Moodies as a teen.  It was  a very memorable time.  This 
happens every year.  All  their music then ends up on my car stereo, and I 
take long  drives.
  I, too, marvel at the mystery of their sound.  This  group has answered 
many of the questions, and more will surely  come.
   With all respect, I hope my comments aren't like  fingernails on a 
chalkboard to you, Martin.  ;-)
 
   -Bruce D.
 



 

From:  "lsf5275@aol.com" <lsf5275@aol.com>
To:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:39  PM
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


 
 

Sometimes it bares repeating. Some of us are not so young anymore Mr.  
Smith, and occasionally we get a new member..
 
me
 
 
In a message dated 10/13/2011 7:12:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tronbros@aol.com writes:

 
 
Personally, I don't think anyone should ever ask again about the  Moodies' 
mellotron sound as it seems to crop up every few months and is  answered 
every time!  Remember what has been said then move on.  It doesn't bare 
repetition.  The next person wot arsks gets  beaten with a wet banana.


M

_mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://mellotronics.co.uk/)   






On 14 Oct 2011, at 00:00, Gary Brumm <_gabru@comsec.net_ 
(mailto:gabru@comsec.net) >  wrote:





 
 
I even used an old 50 watt  to power a Leslie 122 at one point when I had 
my first C3…..   

 
 
From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David  
Jacques
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM
To:  <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound



 
 
 
 
Should have said &  quot;hiwatt"

 

Sent from my iPad

 

On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David  Jacques" <_david.jacques@csulb.edu_ 
(mailto:david.jacques@csulb.edu) >  wrote:


 

 
 
The guitarist in a former band of mine  had a 50 w Harry Joyce signed 
Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for  it.... Sounded fantastic. 

Sent from my iPad

 

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary  Brumm" <_gabru@comsec.net_ 
(mailto:gabru@comsec.net) >  wrote:


 

 
 
Dave Reeves has been  dead since the early 80’s.  The Reeves amps look very 
much like  the ori ginal HIWATT.  
I did some work for  HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA.  A 
lot of  people have made them 
over the years but the  originals certainly set a high standard.  Harry 
Joyce (the  builder of the original HIWATT 
made HIWATT type amps  for a while then died in early 2000.  The HIWATT 
amplifier has  been produced in many 
variations (I worked on  the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but 
the originals can  be beat.


 
 
From:  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   _[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]_ 
(mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com])   On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13,  2011 1:59 PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron  Sound



 
 
 
Reeves 12 watt combo
 
 
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary  Brumm wrote:







 

 
Was it a “Reeves” amp  or a HIWATT?

 
 
From:  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   _[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]_ 
(mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com])   On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13,  2011 12:01 PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:<  /b> Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron  Sound



 
 
 
I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to  play the tron through and I love it.
 
 
 
On Oct 13,  2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:








 


Dave Reeves was under conract  to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but 
once the contract ended, he  naturally decided to focus entirely on his own 
Hiwatt brand. So not  all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had  nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by 
one of the  great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his 
 company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and  they're 
still around:
_http://www.matamp.co.uk/_ (http://www.matamp.co.uk/) 

Steve (tube amp  nerd)

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Gary Brumm <_gabru@... <  /a>> wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to  Marshall. It was a much higher quality 
build and a very versatile  series of amplifiers.
> It was  built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange  
amplifiers.
> 
> From: _ (mailto:gabru@...) _newmellotrongroup@y  ahoogroups.com_ 
(http://ahoogroups.com/)  [mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011  12:57 PM
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
>  Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> 
>  
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt.  Although, 
wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
> 
>  John
> #911
> 
> From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) <_mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >  [mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
]<mailto:[mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ]>  On Behalf Of 
Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: W ednesday, October 12, 2011  11:49 AM
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) <mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
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>  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> 
>  
> 
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top  of the  tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-14 by Bruce Daily

Something like that, Frank.  But, for Colorado, the wording must be changed to include cottonwood trees, mountain sunsets, and canadian geese somehow.  And, more life, less death.
 
  We had some FM deejays that played the hell out of the Moodies back then.  Whole album sides.  Weed breaks for them, I believe.  But, the music took effect on me.
 
  -Bruce D.
 
 


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From: "lsf5275@aol.com" <lsf5275@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


 
   
 
 Is that about the time when... 

"The White Eagle of the North 
Is flying overhead 
And the browns, reds and golds of Autumn 
Lie in the gutter, dead?" 

In a message dated 10/14/2011 1:07:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
pocotron@yahoo.com writes: 
  
>Hi all- 
>  When the leaves turn colors and start to fall, it takes  me back to a time I discovered the Moodies as a teen.  It was  a very memorable time.  This happens every year.  All  their music then ends up on my car stereo, and I take long 
drives. 
>  I, too, marvel at the mystery of their sound.  This  group has answered many of the questions, and more will surely  come. 
>   With all respect, I hope my comments aren't like  fingernails on a chalkboard to you, Martin.  ;-) 
>  
>   -Bruce D. 
>  
>
> 
>
>________________________________
>From: "lsf5275@aol.com" <lsf5275@aol.com>
>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:39  PM
>Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>  
>Sometimes it bares repeating. Some of us are not so young anymore Mr.  Smith, and occasionally we get a new member.. 
>
>me 
>
>In a message dated 10/13/2011 7:12:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  tronbros@aol.com writes: 
>  
>>Personally, I don't think anyone should ever ask again about the  Moodies' mellotron sound as it seems to crop up every few months and is  answered every time!  Remember what has been said then move on.   It doesn't bare repetition.  The next person wot arsks gets  beaten with a wet banana. 
>>
>> 
>>M
>>
>>mellotronics.co.uk 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>On 14 Oct 2011, at 00:00, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>  
>>>I even used an old 50 watt  to power a Leslie 122 at one point when I had my first C3…..    
>>>From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David  Jacques
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM
>>>To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound  
>>>Should have said &  quot;hiwatt" 
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPad 
>>>
>>>On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David 
      Jacques" <david.jacques@csulb.edu>  wrote: 
>>> 
>>>>The guitarist in a former band of mine  had a 50 w Harry Joyce signed Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for  it.... Sounded fantastic. 
>>>>
>>>>Sent from my iPad 
>>>>
>>>>On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary 
        Brumm" <gabru@comsec.net>  wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>>Dave Reeves has been  dead since the early 80’s.  The Reeves amps look very much like  the ori ginal HIWATT.   
>>>>>I did some work for  HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA.  A lot of  people have made them  
>>>>>over the years but the  originals certainly set a high standard.  Harry Joyce (the  builder of the original HIWATT  
>>>>>made HIWATT type amps  for a while then died in early 2000.  The HIWATT amplifier has  been produced in many  
>>>>>variations (I worked on  the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can  be beat.   
>>>>>From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 13,  2011 1:59 PM
>>>>>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron 
Sound  
>>>>>Reeves 12 watt combo 
>>>>>On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary  Brumm wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>Was it a “Reeves” amp  or a HIWATT?  
>>>>>From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 13,  2011 12:01 PM
>>>>>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>Subject:<  /b> Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron  Sound 
>>>>>I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to  play the tron through and I love it. 
>>>>>On Oct 13,  2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Reeves was under conract 
          to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he 
          naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not 
          all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
>>>>>Dave Reeves had 
          nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the 
          great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his 
          company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and 
          they're still around:
>>>>>http://www.matamp.co.uk/
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve (tube amp 
          nerd)
>>>>>
>>>>>--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,  Gary Brumm <gabru@... <  /a>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HIWATT was in no way related to  Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile  series of amplifiers.
>>>>>> It was  built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange  amplifiers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: newmellotrongroup@y ahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]  On Behalf Of John Wright
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 
          12:57 PM
>>>>>> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> 
          Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. 
          Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
          John
>>>>>> #911
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]>  On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
>>>>>> Sent: W ednesday, October 12, 2011 
          11:49 AM
>>>>>> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> 
          Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top 
          of the 
          tron. 
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-14 by fdoddy@aol.com

LOVE the Orange amps. The one I really wanted, the Thunderverb 50w head w/2x12 cabinet was out of my price range, so I picked up a Blackstar HT20.  Made in Korea, it is of significantly higher build quality than any Chinese built  equivalent, and it is a ball of fire.  Great gain channel, peel the paint off a house clean channel and you can pound the input for even more snarl.

I am slowly getting addicted to guitar pedals now...


fritz

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: stevebowd <stevebowd@yahoo.ca>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 13, 2011 2:56 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound


  
    
                  


Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
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>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall.  It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves  as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> 
> 
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt.  Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
> 
> John
> #911
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
> 
> 
> 
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

2011-10-15 by Mike Dickson

And other times it bears repeating.

On 14/10/2011 01:39, lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

Sometimes it bares repeating. Some of us are not so young anymore Mr. Smith, and occasionally we get a new member..
me
In a message dated 10/13/2011 7:12:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tronbros@aol.com writes:

Personally, I don't think anyone should ever ask again about the Moodies' mellotron sound as it seems to crop up every few months and is answered every time! �Remember what has been said then move on. �It doesn't bare repetition. �The next person wot arsks gets beaten with a wet banana.


On 14 Oct 2011, at 00:00, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

I even used an old 50 watt to power a Leslie 122 at one point when I had my first C3\u2026..�

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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

Should have said & quot;hiwatt"


Sent from my iPad


On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:06 PM, "David Jacques" <david.jacques@csulb.edu> wrote:

The guitarist in a former band of mine had a 50 w Harry Joyce signed Howard amp head... I offered him $1000 for it.... Sounded fantastic.�

Sent from my iPad


On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM, "Gary Brumm" <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

Dave Reeves has been dead since the early 80\u2019s.� The Reeves amps look very much like the ori ginal HIWATT.�

I did some work for HIWATT when they were manufactured in Modesto, CA.� A lot of people have made them

over the years but the originals certainly set a high standard.� Harry Joyce (the builder of the original HIWATT

made HIWATT type amps for a while then died in early 2000.� The HIWATT amplifier has been produced in many

variations (I worked on the 20 & 30 watt versions (EL84X2 or EL34X4) but the originals can be beat.

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:59 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

Reeves 12 watt combo

On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:




Was it a \u201cReeves\u201d amp or a HIWATT?

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:01 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject:< /b> Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Moodies Tron Sound

I bought a Reeves amp a year ago to play the tron through and I love it.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM, stevebowd wrote:







Dave Reeves was under conract to provide amplifiers for Sound City, but once the contract ended, he naturally decided to focus entirely on his own Hiwatt brand. So not all Sound City amps were built by Dave Reeves.
Dave Reeves had nothing to do with Orange. Early Orange amps were built by one of the great unsung heroes of tube amplification, Matt Mathias and his company Matamp. They are my all-time favourite amp company, and they're still around:
http://www.matamp.co.uk

Steve (tube amp nerd)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@... < /a>> wrote:
>
> HIWATT was in no way related to Marshall. It was a much higher quality build and a very versatile series of amplifiers.
> It was built by Dave Reeves as was Sound City and I believe Orange amplifiers.
>
> From:
newmellotrongroup@y ahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
> I've seen a Marshal head in some videos, but never Hiwatt. Although, wasn't Hiwatt a spinoff from Marshal?
>
> John
> #911
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Vance Pomeroy
> Sent: W ednesday, October 12, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Moodies Tron Sound
>
>
>
> But Pinder used a tube amp....That's a Hiwatt on top of the tron.


-- 
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