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2011-10-11 by Mark
2011-10-12 by Chris Dale
I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" again, not a song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the Mark II has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound like that.
Mark
2011-10-12 by Vance Pomeroy
\ufffdIt's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from (at that time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an plate reverb.
It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the Mellotron came later.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
\ufffdI'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" again, not a song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the Mark II has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound like that.
Mark
2011-10-12 by Mark
Ah! The miracle of a talented producer.....The Sixth Moody, Tony Clarke, had a major part to play in their sound, like it or not.
Vance (with shields up)
On 10/11/2011 5:22 PM, Chris Dale wrote:It's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from (at that time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an plate reverb.
It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the Mellotron came later.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" again, not a song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the Mark II has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound like that.
Mark
2011-10-12 by lsf5275@aol.com
And high impedance heads. In a message dated 10/11/2011 8:22:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com writes: It's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from (at that time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an plate reverb. It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the Mellotron came later. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <_markpringnz@gmail.com_ (mailto:markpringnz@gmail.com) > wrote: I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" again, not a song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the Mark II has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound like that. Mark
2011-10-12 by lsf5275@aol.com
What's not to like? Alan Parsons was substantially responsible for Dark Side of the Moon. In a message dated 10/11/2011 9:00:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vance@juniperpacific.com writes: Ah! The miracle of a talented producer.....The Sixth Moody, Tony Clarke, had a major part to play in their sound, like it or not. Vance (with shields up) On 10/11/2011 5:22 PM, Chris Dale wrote: It's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from (at that time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an plate reverb. It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the Mellotron came later. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <_markpringnz@gmail.com_ (mailto:markpringnz@gmail.com) > wrote: I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" again, not a song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the Mark II has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound like that. Mark
2011-10-12 by Vance Pomeroy
Agreed Frank - and listening to any Roy Thomas Baker, Nick Chapman or Mutt Lange-produced record also evokes a particular musical sound. I like Tony Clarke's production work - you can hear a definite improvement through the 'classic seven' Moodies albums and even especially on the Blue Jays album. Pip Williams and Tony Visconti made a show of it, but the sound was different for certain. Vance
On 10/11/2011 7:23 PM, lsf5275@aol.com wrote: > > What's not to like? Alan Parsons was substantially responsible for > Dark Side of the Moon. > In a message dated 10/11/2011 9:00:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > vance@juniperpacific.com writes: > > Ah! The miracle of a talented producer.....The Sixth Moody, Tony > Clarke, had a major part to play in their sound, like it or not. > > Vance (with shields up) > > On 10/11/2011 5:22 PM, Chris Dale wrote: > >> It's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from >> (at that time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an >> plate reverb. >> >> It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the >> Mellotron came later. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com >> <mailto:markpringnz@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" >> again, not a song I like but the mellotron sound really is >> wonderful, I think the Mark II has a sound of it's own I >> don't believe you could make an M400 sound like that. >> >> Mark >> >> >
2011-10-12 by Thomas C. Doncourt
I was surprised- I played a Mk1 (Jerry Korb's) along side my freshly renovated M400-through the same amp and heard only a slight difference....more in the flutes than the strings. I think the processing was hugely responsible for the Moody sound. I'm very interested in the difference in tone from Court of the Crimson King, 2000 Light Years From Home and Days of Future Past.
> I probably am wrong, but I reckon I could tell the always tell difference > between an M400 and a Mark II playing the 3 violins, there seems to be a > completely different tonal quality to the sound. I'd certainly agree that > most of the quality of the mellotron sound is due to how it's processed, > it > would be interesting to compare the raw output of an M400 and Mark II. > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Vance Pomeroy > <vance@juniperpacific.com>wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> ** Ah! The miracle of a talented producer.....The Sixth Moody, Tony >> Clarke, had a major part to play in their sound, like it or not. >> >> Vance (with shields up) >> >> On 10/11/2011 5:22 PM, Chris Dale wrote: >> >> >> >> It's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from (at >> that >> time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an plate reverb. >> >> It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the Mellotron >> came later. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" again, >>> not a >>> song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the >>> Mark II >>> has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound >>> like >>> that. >>> >>> Mark >>> >> >> >> >
2011-10-12 by James Parthun
I was surprised- I played a Mk1 (Jerry Korb's) along side my freshly
renovated M400-through the same amp and heard only a slight
difference....more in the flutes than the strings. I think the processing
was hugely responsible for the Moody sound. I'm very interested in the
difference in tone from Court of the Crimson King, 2000 Light Years From
Home and Days of Future Past.
> I probably am wrong, but I reckon I could tell the always tell difference
> between an M400 and a Mark II playing the 3 violins, there seems to be a
> completely different tonal quality to the sound. I'd certainly agree that
> most of the quality of the mellotron sound is due to how it's processed,
>; it
> would be interesting to compare the raw output of an M400 and Mark II.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Vance Pomeroy
> <vance@juniperpacific.com>wrote:
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>> **
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>> ** Ah! The miracle of a talented producer.....The Sixth Moody, Tony
>> Clarke, had a major part to play in their sound, like it or not.
>>
>> Vance (with shields up)
>>
>> On 10/11/2011 5:22 PM, Chris Dale wrote:
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>>
>> It's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from (at
>> that
>> time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an plate reverb.
>>
>> It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the Mellotron
>> came later.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights"; again,
>>> not a
>>> song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the
>>> Mark II
>;>> has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound
>>> like
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Mark
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2011-10-12 by John Hammaren
Not to mention that it seems like he wrote at least two pieces of music “Time” and “Eye in the Sky” that seemed very much like metaphorical echoes to Floyd’s “Time” and The Police’s “Every Breath You Take”, respectively. At least in my mind. Always thought he was the brainiac’s Vanilla Fudge with regard to these two pieces of music, and although he might blanch at my opinion, I say this with the utmost respect.
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What's not to like? Alan Parsons was substantially responsible for Dark Side of the Moon.
In a message dated 10/11/2011 9:00:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vance@juniperpacific.com writes:
Ah! The miracle of a talented producer.....The Sixth Moody, Tony Clarke, had a major part to play in their sound, like it or not.
Vance (with shields up)
On 10/11/2011 5:22 PM, Chris Dale wrote:
It's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from (at that time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an plate reverb.
It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the Mellotron came later.On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" again, not a song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the Mark II has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound like that.
Mark
2011-10-12 by Mike Dickson
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What's not to like? Alan Parsons was substantially responsible for Dark Side of the Moon.
2011-10-12 by lsf5275@aol.com
If you speak to any of them, please tell them to shoot me an email if they wish to discuss it. Frank In a message dated 10/12/2011 5:01:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com writes: The remaining Floyd seems to disagree. :-) On 12/10/2011 03:23, _lsf5275@aol.com_ (mailto:lsf5275@aol.com) wrote: What's not to like? Alan Parsons was substantially responsible for Dark Side of the Moon.
2011-10-12 by lsf5275@aol.com
I have a number of live PF shows recorded prior to the release of DSOTM. It is interesting to listen to those tunes develop in live performance. Although it is obvious that they worked very hard on that album, a good producer/engineer certainly can help a band to realize their vision on record and even help to complete that vision. Incidentally, there is an interesting live Floyd show here, from 4 nights at the Rainbow Theater, Finsbury Park, London, England, February 17-20, 1972. Anyone can download the show for free. NO VIRUSES _http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=907_ (http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=907) In a message dated 10/12/2011 4:44:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hammaren@geoconcepts.com writes: Not to mention that it seems like he wrote at least two pieces of music “ Time” and “Eye in the Sky” that seemed very much like metaphorical echoes to Floyd’s “Time” and The Police’s “Every Breath You Take”, respectively. At least in my mind. Always thought he was the brainiac’s Vanilla Fudge with regard to these two pieces of music, and although he might blanch at my opinion, I say this with the utmost respect.
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:23 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Nights in White Satin What's not to like? Alan Parsons was substantially responsible for Dark Side of the Moon. In a message dated 10/11/2011 9:00:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vance@juniperpacific.com writes: Ah! The miracle of a talented producer.....The Sixth Moody, Tony Clarke, had a major part to play in their sound, like it or not. Vance (with shields up) On 10/11/2011 5:22 PM, Chris Dale wrote: It's the same string sound a 400 has but the sound is coming from (at that time) the MK II tube preamps, miked up speakers, and an plate reverb. It's more the processing than the actual tapes. Modifying the Mellotron came later. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Mark <_markpringnz@gmail.com_ (mailto:markpringnz@gmail.com) > wrote: I'm not a Moody Blues fan but just been listening to "nights" again, not a song I like but the mellotron sound really is wonderful, I think the Mark II has a sound of it's own I don't believe you could make an M400 sound like that. Mark
2011-10-13 by Gary Brumm
Alan Parsons is a brilliant engineer but I think there was a lot of influence on production from Dave Gilmour as well.
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Nights in White Satin
The remaining Floyd seems to disagree. :-)
On 12/10/2011 03:23, lsf5275@aol.com wrote:
What's not to like? Alan Parsons was substantially responsible for Dark Side of the Moon.