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Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by Paul Schreiber

I don't think Lumex offers them.

Paul S.

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From: <bigd@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] All hail the MiniMoe


> I have blue LED's on my tube stereo gear, there sexy!!  : )  hahahaha
> Jim
>
> Tkacs, Ken wrote:
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> > Speaking of blinky lights, how about some BLUE LEDS? I love Blue LEDs. I
> > know they cost 720% more than red ones, but *still!*
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:   bigd@... [mailto:bigd@...]
> > Sent:   Friday, 26 January, 2001 1:35 PM
> > To:     motm@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:        Re: [motm] All hail the MiniMoe
> >
> > All hail blinky lights!
> > Jim
> >
> > improv@... wrote:
> >
> > > >"1 feature I will do: LEDs that change color depending on direction
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> > > >Well that should be colorful! But is there any other reason?
> > > >
> > > You need a reason? More Blinky Lights!
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Dave Trenkel : improv@...
> > > New & Improv Media
> > > http://www.newandimprov.com
> > > Now available: Admiral Twinkle Devil: Wabi Dub
> > > ____________________________________________
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Re: [motm] Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by bigd@buffalo.com

My tube stereo supplier, gets em from Newark.
Jim

Paul Schreiber wrote:
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> I don't think Lumex offers them.
>
> Paul S.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bigd@...>
> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [motm] All hail the MiniMoe
>
> > I have blue LED's on my tube stereo gear, there sexy!!  : )  hahahaha
> > Jim
> >
> > Tkacs, Ken wrote:
> >
> > > Speaking of blinky lights, how about some BLUE LEDS? I love Blue LEDs. I
> > > know they cost 720% more than red ones, but *still!*
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From:   bigd@... [mailto:bigd@...]
> > > Sent:   Friday, 26 January, 2001 1:35 PM
> > > To:     motm@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject:        Re: [motm] All hail the MiniMoe
> > >
> > > All hail blinky lights!
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > improv@... wrote:
> > >
> > > > >"1 feature I will do: LEDs that change color depending on direction
> of
> > > > >"travel".
> > > > >
> > > > >Well that should be colorful! But is there any other reason?
> > > > >
> > > > You need a reason? More Blinky Lights!
> > > >
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Dave Trenkel : improv@...
> > > > New & Improv Media
> > > > http://www.newandimprov.com
> > > > Now available: Admiral Twinkle Devil: Wabi Dub
> > > > ____________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: [motm] Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by Dave Hylander

They are not the nice Freznel lens like currently on the MOTM.  I buy 5mm 
panasonics and mount them in a Lumex lensless mount similar to the MOTM.

-dave-

At 01:56 PM 1/26/01 -0500, you wrote:
>My tube stereo supplier, gets em from Newark.
>Jim

RE: [motm] Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by Tkacs, Ken

Ooh, white LEDs. Those and blue would look so nice together on black.
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From: 	The Old Crow [mailto:oldcrow@...] 
Sent:	Friday, 26 January, 2001 2:47 PM
To:	motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [motm] Blue LEDs


  I recently got in a care package of LEDs from a friend in Tokyo.  They
have LEDs over there we can only dream about, heh heh.

  Among the LEDs in this shipment are some 8000mcd blue LEDs.  If you put
one of these on the moon with 5mA, you could probably see it from the
earth. ;)  I also got some 4500mcd green, red and amber parts.  And a pile
of 2000mcd white LEDs.  I should devise some circuit to replace the
incandescent bulbs in the house with clusters of white LEDs, heh heh.

  Now if I can just get some of the elusive violet LEDs...

Crow

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RE: [motm] Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by Jeffrey Pontius

> 
> Ooh, white LEDs. Those and blue would look so nice together on black.
> 
> 
How visible are the blue's under dim lighting conditions?  Probably not as
bright as red/yellow/white I would assume.
Jeff

Re: [motm] Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by The Old Crow

I recently got in a care package of LEDs from a friend in Tokyo.  They
have LEDs over there we can only dream about, heh heh.

  Among the LEDs in this shipment are some 8000mcd blue LEDs.  If you put
one of these on the moon with 5mA, you could probably see it from the
earth. ;)  I also got some 4500mcd green, red and amber parts.  And a pile
of 2000mcd white LEDs.  I should devise some circuit to replace the
incandescent bulbs in the house with clusters of white LEDs, heh heh.

  Now if I can just get some of the elusive violet LEDs...

Crow

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Re: [motm] Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by bigd@buffalo.com

I can see  my blue LED's from my neighbors house. really!
It looks like some sort of James Bond blue laser beam security system.
Jim

Jeffrey Pontius wrote:
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> > Ooh, white LEDs. Those and blue would look so nice together on black.
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> How visible are the blue's under dim lighting conditions?  Probably not as
> bright as red/yellow/white I would assume.
> Jeff

Re: Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by ceres@sirius.com

Actually, Blue LED's are extraordinarily bright.  Anyone who's seen 
the ones on the Wiard Borg Filter module can vouch for that ...

Now what was that about VIOLET LED's? Yum ...

    -Doug
     ceres@...

--- In motm@y..., Jeffrey Pontius <jpont@k...> wrote:
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> > Ooh, white LEDs. Those and blue would look so nice together on 
> > black.
> > 
> How visible are the blue's under dim lighting conditions?  
> Probably not as bright as red/yellow/white I would assume.
> Jeff

Re: [motm] Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by sikorsky

From: <bigd@...>
> I can see  my blue LED's from my neighbors house. really!
> It looks like some sort of James Bond blue laser beam security system.

hey jim
point them over towards the UK - it's a clear night, i might spot them ;-)

cheers
paul b

Re: Blue LEDs

2001-01-26 by hendrysr@yahoo.com

We have been using the blue and white ones (in clusters) at work for 
some time for utility equipment indications.
Larry H

--- In motm@y..., The Old Crow <oldcrow@o...> wrote:
> 
>   I recently got in a care package of LEDs from a friend in Tokyo.  
They
> have LEDs over there we can only dream about, heh heh.
> 
>   Among the LEDs in this shipment are some 8000mcd blue LEDs.  If 
you put
> one of these on the moon with 5mA, you could probably see it from 
the
> earth. ;)  I also got some 4500mcd green, red and amber parts.  And 
a pile
> of 2000mcd white LEDs.  I should devise some circuit to replace the
> incandescent bulbs in the house with clusters of white LEDs, heh 
heh.
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> 
>   Now if I can just get some of the elusive violet LEDs...
> 
> Crow
> 
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Re: Blue LEDs

2001-01-27 by blacet@blacet.com

The Hosfelt catalog has an impressive selection of LEDs. Looks like no 
web site though. 800-524-6464

They are replacing all the traffic lights around here with LED 
clusters. The red are nice, the green are over the top -- too bright!

A good white LED makes a nice under counter light. I see that clusters 
of them are being used for STREET LIGHTS. These are actually blue LEDs 
with a phosphor coating. About a 1/10W power draw each.

Blue LEDs

2003-04-13 by Paul Schreiber

>>I am going to use as much as possible Blue LED's..
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

GROAN!

>>and in the S&H I wanted to use this high-intensity BLUE LED anyone see any problems with
swapping it out?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

There IS a problem with this module, and you will find similar issues with other modules. Look at
the schematic of the '101 and notice how it's used as a diode (not just a LED). Blue LEDs have
different 'forward voltage drop' and require different currents. Lots of the LED sircuits used
(Like on the '390 LFO) don't use "standard" LED driver circuits. They drive with currents. Some
twiddling may be needed.

Personally, I can't *stand* blue LEDs but I'm a fruitcake.

Paul S.

Re: Blue LEDs

2003-04-14 by osthelder

> 
> Personally, I can't *stand* blue LEDs but I'm a fruitcake.
> 
> Paul S.

Blue LED's should be outlawed!  I have a client that loves bright LED
status indicators and when he found out that high intensity blue LED's
were available he insisted that I use them in his latest device.  I
finished the final wiring and decided to test the DC power
jack-to-battery switching.  I had this thing right in front of my
face-maybe a foot from my bespectacled eyes-when I put the plug in for
the battery power test. Saw a blue spot for a day!

Remember kids-friends don't let friends use LED's!  They waste power,
they blind old people, and they make your synth look like a freakin'
disco!  If you don't know what your synth is doing without lights,
maybe it's time to get that hearing exam.  

My client, by the way, blinded himself momentarily on stage when he
hit the switch on his new fuzz.  He sent the unit back for
modification.  I love my customers...

Chub

What's all this blue LED stuff?

2003-04-14 by strohs56k

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@a...> wrote:
> 
> Personally, I can't *stand* blue LEDs but I'm a fruitcake.

Hmm - to be a fruitcake, wouldn't you actually need to *like* blue 
LEDs to the point of replacing every LED in every piece of equipment 
you own with blue ones?  Blue LEDs are still fairly new and, therefor, 
somewhat trendy.  In a few years I'm sure this blue LED craze will be 
over ... maybe.

If you don't like blue LEDs, I would think that makes you conservative 
- or something.  Besides, legend has it that you despise LEDs in 
general (or at least electrically) - now that might make you a 
fruitcake!  :)


I will admit, one thing that can be annoying about blue LEDs...  If 
you wear glasses, you know something first hand about optics: the 
refraction of a lens is not uniform for all wavelengths of light!  As 
the human eye picks up "detail" through red and green, glasses are 
"tuned" to focus these frequencies best.  As a result, if you view 
some piece of equipment with a blue indicator straight on it looks 
fine.  But the more you view from off axis, the more the blue shifts 
out of place in the image.  (Best I can describe it - so if you wear 
glasses, could be another annoying thing about blue LEDs.)


Paul is right about the cone angle - for panel indicators, it would be 
nice to have wide cone angles.  My favorite blue LEDs (and also proper 
primary green LEDs) are manufactured by Nichia.  (Where Shuji Nakamura 
invented the gallium nitride (GaN) LED technology.)

The Nichia part numbers (for blue) are the NSPB320BS (3mm round) and 
NSPB520S (5mm round) - these are not the highest output (these are 
"only" 700mcd) but that's already way too much for a panel indicator!  
The cone angle is 45 degrees - something like 80 degrees would really 
be preferred.  The green parts are NSPG320BS and NSPG520S.  Also 45 
degrees but be careful with these ones at 2300mcd ... your eyes are 
*real* sensitive to green light too!  (If for some strange reason you 
think this isn't good enough, they make the narrow beam models at like 
11,600mcd, ouch!!!)

They also have a really neat product, the NSTM515AS - this is a "full 
spectrum" LED with three separate elements for the light primaries.  
(Red, Green, and Blue)  It is a 5mm round diffused package with a 80 
degree cone angle.  By changing the current into each element you can 
basically mix any color of light you want.  Build a big enough array 
of these, with appropriate driving circuits, and you could watch 
television on LEDs.


Now, you may have bought some of those Kingbright RGB LEDs (or, for 
that matter, the Kingbright blue LEDs) that are sold in the Mouser 
catalog and found them, uh, underwhelming.  (I did!)  The Nicha parts 
work much better.

Nichia has a Thomas register storefront where you can order small 
quantities of any of this stuff...

https://trorderonline.thomasregister.com/TrooFrame.tpl?Origin=VURL&AZN
umber=73223398


I think Dave has the right idea about putting blue LEDs into the Lumex 
lenses - a diffused white lens would solve the cone angle problem.



--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "osthelder" <osthelder@n...> wrote:
>
> Blue LED's should be outlawed!  I have a client that loves bright
> LED status indicators [...]  I had this thing right in front of my
> face-maybe a foot from my bespectacled eyes-when I put the plug in
> for the battery power test.  Saw a blue spot for a day!

The Andromeda has one of those on the back panel - probably a 
Panasonic LED judging by the color and the relatively narrow beam.  It 
makes about a 5" diameter blue spot on the wall when switched on.  One 
day I'm sure I will switch the thing off and find that blue spot has 
been permanently burned into the wall.  :)



Seth

Re: [motm] What's all this blue LED stuff?

2003-04-14 by media.nai@rcn.com

>  My favorite blue LEDs (and also proper
>primary green LEDs) are manufactured by Nichia.

I have no idea which LED's Lexicon uses, but they work fine.

>The Nichia part numbers (for blue) are the NSPB320BS (3mm round) and
>NSPB520S (5mm round) - these are not the highest output (these are
>"only" 700mcd) but that's already way too much for a panel indicator!

I have a Princeton Tec that has a single LED that makes a difference 
outside in broad daylight.  So yes, not all LED's are suitable as 
panel indicators!!  The 320 was designed as an LFO, not a diving 
beacon.

>I think Dave has the right idea about putting blue LEDs into the Lumex
>lenses - a diffused white lens would solve the cone angle problem.

That is great idea, but imho, not worth the effort.  I haven't 
decided what color to use for the 800's.  I'm thinking I could use a 
two-color LED -- tie the red to gate, and the green to the envelope :)

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