MOTM

NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!

Paul S.
remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.

On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Paul Schreiber wrote:

> NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!
> 
> Paul S.
> remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.
Yes, this is so true, especially when 'reality' sets in.  But,
congratulations!  I'll be interested to hear how events go for motm @
namm.
Jeff

re: subject line
This has nothing ot do with the vegitarian debate does it ?   : )
Jim





Paul Schreiber wrote:

> NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!
>
> Paul S.
> remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.

... for the NAMM coming up in just a few weeks?  Hope you've got a few extra
modules assembled.  And some headphones, and moniters, and patchcords, and
mixer, and...

Congrats!!  Now I really wish I could be there.

--PBr

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Paul Schreiber [SMTP:synth1@...]
> Sent:	Tuesday, January 02, 2001 12:47 PM
> To:	MOTM listserv
> Subject:	[motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
> 
> NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!
> 
> Paul S.
> remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.
> 
> 
> 
>

Subject: Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
> re: subject line
> This has nothing ot do with the vegitarian debate does it ?   : )
> Jim

it could do, seeing paul's subject line reminded me very much of the
vegetarian squid i had yesterday:
all the disadvantages of having the texture of squid, but without the one
advantage of actually being squid
my girlfriend took one look at it and refused to touch it - so i hate the
whole lot (oops)

on topic comment: so no one liked the arpegiator module then..?

cheers
paul b
(in the middle of annual accounts, and undergoing fake squid attack -
argh!!!)

Please no  fighting with the german D  guys if you go : )
Smackdown baby!  : ) LOL
Jim

J. Larry Hendry wrote:

> Of course, for the right incentives, I could show up with about 24 MOTM
> modules all racked up and ready to rumble.  You have to say "ready to
> rumble" like that guy who does the WWF wrestling commercials.  Of course,
> there are a lot of modules much closer already.
> :)
> Larry H
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) <noise@...>
> To: <motm@egroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:18 PM
> Subject: RE: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
>
> ... for the NAMM coming up in just a few weeks?  Hope you've got a few extra
> modules assembled.  And some headphones, and moniters, and patchcords, and
> mixer, and...
>
> Congrats!!  Now I really wish I could be there.
>
> --PBr
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Schreiber [SMTP:synth1@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 12:47 PM
> > To: MOTM listserv
> > Subject: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
> >
> > NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!
> >
> > Paul S.
> > remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.

What (and who's) modules are you taking to NAMM, last time I checked you
had a power supply and a broken 420 filter (or maybe vice versa) -Nate


Paul Schreiber wrote:

> NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!
>
> Paul S.
> remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.

merde,
i was gonna respond to this an' i forgot.  yes, i am all about an 
arpeggiator...
peace,
doc


> on topic comment: so no one liked the arpegiator module then..?
> 
> cheers
> paul b
> (in the middle of annual accounts, and undergoing fake squid 
attack -
> argh!!!)

Of course, for the right incentives, I could show up with about 24 MOTM
modules all racked up and ready to rumble.  You have to say "ready to
rumble" like that guy who does the WWF wrestling commercials.  Of course,
there are a lot of modules much closer already.
:)
Larry H

----- Original Message -----
From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) <noise@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up


... for the NAMM coming up in just a few weeks?  Hope you've got a few extra
modules assembled.  And some headphones, and moniters, and patchcords, and
mixer, and...

Congrats!!  Now I really wish I could be there.

--PBr

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Schreiber [SMTP:synth1@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 12:47 PM
> To: MOTM listserv
> Subject: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
>
> NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!
>
> Paul S.
> remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.

Well, here is a thought on how it might work with currently produced
products.  some of these I do not have so there is some speculation
involved.

Take a MIDI to CV converter capable of taking say four notes on the keyboard
and producing 4 separate CV outs.  Run each of those 4 CV outs directly to 4
separate VCOs.  Use the CV output of a module like the upcoming Encore UEG
(with the looping feature to switch MOTM-700s to switch each VCO on and off.
The gate to start the whole thing could come from the first note down.   I
may play with this some when my UEG arrives.  However, I suspect I would
need the Expressionist as opposed to my Pro-2000 to really make it work
neat.

The keyboard would control the notes.  The UEG would control the time.  In
fact, I think the UEG will have many good uses.

Other crazy ideas?

Stooge Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: Tkacs, Ken <ken.tkacs@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 7:30 PM
Subject: FW: [motm] I think I'm gonna arpeggiate



I love a good arpeggiator. I can't even begin to estimate the amount of
man-hours that were killed in the 80's by my Korg Mono/Poly arpeggiator.

But as a module... I'm not sure. To be as useful/fun as the Korg MP-4 unit,
it would need to be flexible and controllable. The Korg arpegiator was
"programmed" in real time by the scanned keyboard... how you would
reasonably pull that off with CVs is not clear.

Also, it may be that a mini-sequencer with CV or gate control of
up/down/up-down, for instance, might do the same job but really be more of a
flexible sequencer than an arpeggitor module.

In the end, there may be more "modular" ways of doing a similar job. I have
long been on a quest for a stable/flexible quantizer module. With that, you
could feed in CV sweeps or the output from an S&H and get some
arpeggiator-like effects. Sticking the lag between the S&H or an LFO and the
quantizer would allow you various VC methods for shaping the curve and
therefore the output of the quantizer, and so on.

The subject is worth discussing.



-----Original Message-----
From: sikorsky
To: motm@egroups.com
Sent: 01/02/2001 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up


on topic comment: so no one liked the arpegiator module then..?

Let us know the booth number and such.  I'll definitely come by to see the 
sights and say hi.  Otherwise I'll be found at either the Mackie or EAW 
booths.

Ivan

From: Tkacs, Ken <ken.tkacs@...>
> But as a module... I'm not sure. To be as useful/fun as the Korg MP-4
unit,
> it would need to be flexible and controllable. The Korg arpegiator was
> "programmed" in real time by the scanned keyboard... how you would
> reasonably pull that off with CVs is not clear.

oh yes - i forgot about that bit, i guess i was just assuming that there'd
be some kind of sample & hold section inside
i did say it was an unreasonable demand didn't i..?
i think i'll leave the arping to my juno 6 - the novelty does wear off after
about four hours anyway

cheers
paul b

Only four? Back in my Tangerine Dream wannabe days, I could keep an arpeggio
going for longer than that!  ;-)

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	sikorsky [mailto:vulture.squadron@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, 03 January, 2001 10:52 AM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna arpeggiate


i think i'll leave the arping to my juno 6 - the novelty does wear off after
about four hours anyway

Hopefully a bit of reason.  Id rather see efforts in this area put into a
sequncer of some kind.  Most arpegiator effects can be achived in a analogue
sequencer, and then the benefits of alos having a sequencer!  Most people have a
arpegiator whether it be in another synth they have or a in some kind of
software. Hope this makes sense.
Jim

Tkacs, Ken wrote:

> Only four? Back in my Tangerine Dream wannabe days, I could keep an arpeggio
> going for longer than that!  ;-)
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:   sikorsky [mailto:vulture.squadron@...]
> Sent:   Wednesday, 03 January, 2001 10:52 AM
> To:     motm@egroups.com
> Subject:        Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna arpeggiate
>
> i think i'll leave the arping to my juno 6 - the novelty does wear off after
> about four hours anyway

From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!

hello all,
in all my haste attempting wit, i forgot:

anything we can do to help..?
how's about 50 or so system photos from the list members - printed out small
enough, and so long as there were enough useable ones, i'm sure they'd fill
a spare corner...
...or is this a bad idea at short notice..?
if it's a goer - it might be worth specifying aspect ratio / size / max
filesize in advance to help with compiling

> remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.

cheers
paul b
remembering the old Chinese proverb: Beware the yam dressed as squid

From: Tkacs, Ken <ken.tkacs@...>
> Only four? Back in my Tangerine Dream wannabe days, I could keep an
arpeggio
> going for longer than that!  ;-)

sorry,
i meant four hours just on the one note :-)

cheers
paul b
(feeling a touch of python coming on...)

In a message dated 1/3/2001 8:11:22 AM, bigd@... writes:

>Id rather see efforts in this area put into a
>sequncer of some kind.  Most arpegiator effects can be achived in a analogue
>sequencer, and then the benefits of alos having a sequencer! 

I know we've discussed this before. Given the improbability of the MOAS ever 
actually happening (and Paul's decision to push DoMOAS back for a while) a 
reasonable alternative which would cover at least a basic sequencer and the 
arpeggiator desires might be a very simple digital (there! I said it!) 
sequencer which would take a voltage in, allow it to be quantized (to 
semitones, quarter tones or even less), and store that voltage in memory to a 
length of N steps. An external clock could then be applied (to a clock input 
of course) so the module would have all the stored voltages appear in 
sequence at the output for all N cycles and then recycle. You could probably 
add hold, up/down, reset inputs without any trouble. 

I bet this would be a simple and rather cheap module to build (INPUT -- ADC 
-- PIC + controls -- DAC -- OUTPUT). I bet Crow has already built one of 
these.

It would hardly replace a sequencer IMO, but it could be a very useful module.
John (who thought that maybe UK Paul found himself on the submarine Seaview 
when he mentioned having to fight off a fake squid attack) Barlow

I think this would be cool, especially if you had some options on the
scaling. I.e., there could be a rotary switch or whatever to select
temperaments or something.

Do you think it would be able to produce those "Seaview sonar" type sounds?
;)

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	jwbarlow@... [mailto:jwbarlow@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, 03 January, 2001 12:24 PM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna arpeggiate


In a message dated 1/3/2001 8:11:22 AM, bigd@... writes:

>Id rather see efforts in this area put into a
>sequncer of some kind.  Most arpegiator effects can be achived in a
analogue
>sequencer, and then the benefits of alos having a sequencer! 

I know we've discussed this before. Given the improbability of the MOAS ever

actually happening (and Paul's decision to push DoMOAS back for a while) a 
reasonable alternative which would cover at least a basic sequencer and the 
arpeggiator desires might be a very simple digital (there! I said it!) 
sequencer which would take a voltage in, allow it to be quantized (to 
semitones, quarter tones or even less), and store that voltage in memory to
a 
length of N steps. An external clock could then be applied (to a clock input

of course) so the module would have all the stored voltages appear in 
sequence at the output for all N cycles and then recycle. You could probably

add hold, up/down, reset inputs without any trouble. 

I bet this would be a simple and rather cheap module to build (INPUT -- ADC 
-- PIC + controls -- DAC -- OUTPUT). I bet Crow has already built one of 
these.

It would hardly replace a sequencer IMO, but it could be a very useful
module.
John (who thought that maybe UK Paul found himself on the submarine Seaview 
when he mentioned having to fight off a fake squid attack) Barlow

Har! Glad I bought a Wiard MiniWave when I did. It has a quantizer 
bank that has semitone, major and minor scales, etc. that you step 
through with an input cv.

Moe

--- In motm@egroups.com, jwbarlow@a... wrote:
>  
> reasonable alternative which would cover at least a basic sequencer 
and the 
> arpeggiator desires might be a very simple digital (there! I said 
it!) 
> sequencer which would take a voltage in, allow it to be quantized 
(to 
> semitones, quarter tones or even less), and store that voltage in 
memory to a 
> length of N steps. An external clock could then be applied (to a 
clock input 
> of course) so the module would have all the stored voltages appear 
in 
> sequence at the output for all N cycles and then recycle. You could 
probably 
> add hold, up/down, reset inputs without any trouble.

In a message dated 1/3/2001 10:25:19 AM, ken.tkacs@... writes:

>I think this would be cool, especially if you had some options on the
>scaling. I.e., there could be a rotary switch or whatever to select
>temperaments or something.

Of course Paul probably wouldn't use a rotary switch, but a rotary encoder or 
a pot which would work in steps. Exactly what I was thinking of, call it a 
"steps per volt selector" 0 to say 24 (although I'm not sure how "musical" 
intervals of say 5, 6 and 7 steps per octave would be).

>Do you think it would be able to produce those "Seaview sonar" type sounds?

C'mon Ken! You can do that with just a few MOTM modules and some spring 
reverb and a bit of echo I'd think. But I wonder how one could make that 
"Let's send an electrical charge through the hull!" sound (which sounds "so 
similar" to the alien falls against the panel in the Circuitry Room, and much 
pyrotechnics ensue)?
JB

Holy sh!t!  That's a LOT of megabytes!  I really hope Paul's not using a
standard modem.

Seriously, you might want to consider some kind of FTP server (hmm, but who
would let you plunk down 500MB...?), or burning to CD and overnight
shipping; that much data can seriously clog up an eMail box, *if* the ISP
lets it go through at all...  OTOH, maybe you know something I don't know.
;)

--PBr

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	J. Larry Hendry [SMTP:jlarryh@...]
> Sent:	Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:42 PM
> To:	motm@egroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
> 
> Just today, 500 MB of high resolution TIFFs went express mail to Paul's
> house.  :)
> Of course, it is all my stuff.  :)
> LH
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sikorsky <vulture.squadron@...>
> To: <motm@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
> 
> 
> From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> > NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!
> 
> hello all,
> in all my haste attempting wit, i forgot:
> 
> anything we can do to help..?
> how's about 50 or so system photos from the list members - printed out
> small
> enough, and so long as there were enough useable ones, i'm sure they'd
> fill
> a spare corner...
> ...or is this a bad idea at short notice..?
> if it's a goer - it might be worth specifying aspect ratio / size / max
> filesize in advance to help with compiling
> 
> > remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.
> 
> cheers
> paul b
> remembering the old Chinese proverb: Beware the yam dressed as squid
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Just today, 500 MB of high resolution TIFFs went express mail to Paul's
house.  :)
Of course, it is all my stuff.  :)
LH

----- Original Message -----
From: sikorsky <vulture.squadron@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up


From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> NAMM just called, I got a BOOTH!!

hello all,
in all my haste attempting wit, i forgot:

anything we can do to help..?
how's about 50 or so system photos from the list members - printed out small
enough, and so long as there were enough useable ones, i'm sure they'd fill
a spare corner...
...or is this a bad idea at short notice..?
if it's a goer - it might be worth specifying aspect ratio / size / max
filesize in advance to help with compiling

> remembering old Chinese proverb: Be careful what you wish for.

cheers
paul b
remembering the old Chinese proverb: Beware the yam dressed as squid

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) <noise@...>
> Holy sh!t!  That's a LOT of megabytes!

At 9.1 MB per photo it adds up.

> I really hope Paul's not using a
> standard modem.

Never mind Paul.  The fastest connection my "crap-for-main-office-switch"
phone company can muster is 26K on a good day.

> Seriously, you might want to consider some kind
> of FTP server (hmm, but who would let you plunk
>down 500MB...?), or burning to CD and overnight
> shipping;

I decided to overnight ship instead via US Postal "Express Mail"  TM
see below <snicker>

LH

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Larry Hendry [SMTP:jlarryh@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:42 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
>
> Just today, 500 MB of high resolution TIFFs went express mail to Paul's
> house.  :)
> Of course, it is all my stuff.  :)
> LH

Oh lord.  I'm an idiot.  Missed the "xpress" in "express mail".  Parsed down
to eMail.

--PBr, wandering around, looking for the dunce cap.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	J. Larry Hendry [SMTP:jlarryh@...]
> Sent:	Wednesday, January 03, 2001 4:29 PM
> To:	motm@egroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) <noise@...>
> > Holy sh!t!  That's a LOT of megabytes!
> 
> At 9.1 MB per photo it adds up.
> 
> > I really hope Paul's not using a
> > standard modem.
> 
> Never mind Paul.  The fastest connection my "crap-for-main-office-switch"
> phone company can muster is 26K on a good day.
> 
> > Seriously, you might want to consider some kind
> > of FTP server (hmm, but who would let you plunk
> >down 500MB...?), or burning to CD and overnight
> > shipping;
> 
> I decided to overnight ship instead via US Postal "Express Mail"  TM
> see below <snicker>
> 
> LH
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: J. Larry Hendry [SMTP:jlarryh@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:42 PM
> > To: motm@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
> >
> > Just today, 500 MB of high resolution TIFFs went express mail to Paul's
> > house.  :)
> > Of course, it is all my stuff.  :)
> > LH
>

Well, I couldn't resist the opportunity to have a little stooge like humor
at your expense.  However, I did get a good chuckle thinking about mailing
500 MB from my house.  I think I could drive to Texas faster.  :)
Larry H

----- Original Message -----
From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) <noise@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up


Oh lord.  I'm an idiot.  Missed the "xpress" in "express mail".  Parsed down
to eMail.

--PBr, wandering around, looking for the dunce cap.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Larry Hendry [SMTP:jlarryh@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 4:29 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) <noise@...>
> > Holy sh!t!  That's a LOT of megabytes!
>
> At 9.1 MB per photo it adds up.
>
> > I really hope Paul's not using a
> > standard modem.
>
> Never mind Paul.  The fastest connection my "crap-for-main-office-switch"
> phone company can muster is 26K on a good day.
>
> > Seriously, you might want to consider some kind
> > of FTP server (hmm, but who would let you plunk
> >down 500MB...?), or burning to CD and overnight
> > shipping;
>
> I decided to overnight ship instead via US Postal "Express Mail"  TM
> see below <snicker>
>
> LH
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: J. Larry Hendry [SMTP:jlarryh@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:42 PM
> > To: motm@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [motm] I think I'm gonna throw up
> >
> > Just today, 500 MB of high resolution TIFFs went express mail to Paul's
> > house.  :)
> > Of course, it is all my stuff.  :)
> > LH
>